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ExLight
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  • As to why killing Bob that could be weird. Either scared of his skill as a Player or he had brought something up that raised some urgency. I don't particularly remember Bob doing much other than being a bit insistent on townleaning me? Which I can see being a bit of a headache to Numbers depending on how he perceives my slot? 

    If they wanted to try pushing for my mislynching, then killing the experienced player advocating for me could be the start of setting it up?
    Killing Bob also gets rid of someone that might have more meta information to work with JJJ's slot, which again is a bit ambiguous.
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  • The mini clash with Numbers later on also felt a bit weird and opportunistic of him. I don't think Luka and Numbers make sense as a scumteam unless there's some weird unnecessary theater going on and I'd prefer to lynch elsewhere? Setting up for a bus is often seem as suicidal in a setup this small (although in my experience lynching a scum this early in a game like this is actually really bad cuz having fewer interactions make it really hard to follow up on finding the second one).

    While I'm catching up I'll keep my vote on
    Vote: serif;

    I might change if I spot anything that red flags me a bit more.
    If I am understanding you here, this represents a bit of a disconnect with Luka's self-assessment. They'd offered as a defense that they would have distanced with Numbers as mafia:


    Luka was my tinfoil, and I could be convinced in that direction.
    I distance as scum
    I havent commented on numbers once which, is sus in its own right; but doesnt allgin with my scum meta
    If this assessment is accurate, that'd suggest any theater was one-sided (from Numbers). Is that what you mean to convey, ExLight? That Numbers was the one propagating a sense of animosity or "theater"? Perhaps if I am generous, I might note that when one wolf gets animated about someone else and that animation is not reciprocated, the engagement is less compatible with "distancing" -- that tends to be more mutual.

    This would depend upon Luka's self-report being true. I am unable to dig and verify right now.
    You use hard words. Number swinged a bit on how he approached Luka, so depends on when you're meaning it.
    I'm not comfortable making judgments based on Luka's self-meta because if someone is aware enough to describe their meta as scum then they can easily fake their town meta since they know what to avoid. This would be just WIFOM and I'm uncaring about this comment in particular. Luka's posts are very scummy to me, what is making me townlean them very slightly is how Numbers deals with this slot (at first kinda whiteknighting it, and later on clashing a bit with them probably as an attempt to start a wagon).
    I know what to fake, true. I've done it before. However, I don't believe I'm in my s!meta at all; and cait backed me up iirc 
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    ExLight
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  • I had to stop my recap around mid D1's EoD to piece these reads, I'll resume my rereading but I don't think there's much more I can say before the current EoD.
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  • My blanket assessment of Luka would be that their posts have gradually declined toward a classical mafia archetype. After a hot start, they have drifted much more out of view (and in alignment with a member of the mafia being mechanically outed, so that's not ideal). At face value, I think they're wolfy.

    With respect to Numbers interactions, I can find an argument in either direction if I want to. I think ExLight did well to discuss an interpretation that is favorable for Luka. I covered a contrary view earlier, in which it seemed that Numbers was antagonistic to Luka but also listed them as a town read (i.e., potentially establishing distance but without the threat of an actual bus).
    I don't lose motivation if a scum dies, first of all. I've been accused of this more times as town; its mostly because I dislike any day past D1. 
    In addition, I cant see what about my posts gives you scum pings. No posts, only saying it does without reasoning is what im seeing as to my defense 
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  • Hmm, I still feel like there was missing something there.
    If scum has Day chat I believe killing Bob had already been brought up which is why Number had the weird townlock read on Bob despite not echoing his reads. If that's the case I'd expect the second scumbud to maybe be avoidant of that slot, which I believe fits the bill here for a potential JJJ scumbud barely interacting.

    ExLight
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    I think I'm comfortable with this readslist? Leesbra might fall into yellow, it's hard to read newer players.
    Do you remember your own stance on Bob D1?
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    Luka
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  • On a completely unrelated note, I'll be running a game in the near future (likely starting in 3-4 days). It will be a large-but-fast game with non-standard mechanics and some weird thematic flourishes (based on the show Severance). You're all invited if you like. The folks in this game have generally been very good vibes, and that's the most important thing to me. No pressure at all, just thought I'd toss out the invite. I can provide a link if folks desire.

    :)
    Aw, how kind! Thank you so much! 
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  • Does scum in Wintreath usually have access to chat during the Day Phase? Or is it Night only?
    I dont know if you fake dumb tells but this is fairly safely town 
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  • My blanket assessment of Luka would be that their posts have gradually declined toward a classical mafia archetype. After a hot start, they have drifted much more out of view (and in alignment with a member of the mafia being mechanically outed, so that's not ideal). At face value, I think they're wolfy.

    With respect to Numbers interactions, I can find an argument in either direction if I want to. I think ExLight did well to discuss an interpretation that is favorable for Luka. I covered a contrary view earlier, in which it seemed that Numbers was antagonistic to Luka but also listed them as a town read (i.e., potentially establishing distance but without the threat of an actual bus).
    I don't lose motivation if a scum dies, first of all. I've been accused of this more times as town; its mostly because I dislike any day past D1.
    In addition, I cant see what about my posts gives you scum pings. No posts, only saying it does without reasoning is what im seeing as to my defense
    Is this a general thing when playing or specific to this game? Also why?
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    Luka
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  • Oh good afternoon ExLight
    Hi, good afternoon!
    Unfortunately I feel like you're at the bottom of my readslists, care to bounce some ideas off with me?
    Sorry, I really don't have much
    I don't see anything redeemable from Luka, but if it isn't Luka I'm stumped.
    If there's a deepwolf I'd currently say it's you, your high placement is backed from Numbers' spew but something just irks me about your slot. I couldn't say what
    Its not exlight lolVote: serif;
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  • My blanket assessment of Luka would be that their posts have gradually declined toward a classical mafia archetype. After a hot start, they have drifted much more out of view (and in alignment with a member of the mafia being mechanically outed, so that's not ideal). At face value, I think they're wolfy.

    With respect to Numbers interactions, I can find an argument in either direction if I want to. I think ExLight did well to discuss an interpretation that is favorable for Luka. I covered a contrary view earlier, in which it seemed that Numbers was antagonistic to Luka but also listed them as a town read (i.e., potentially establishing distance but without the threat of an actual bus).
    I don't lose motivation if a scum dies, first of all. I've been accused of this more times as town; its mostly because I dislike any day past D1.
    In addition, I cant see what about my posts gives you scum pings. No posts, only saying it does without reasoning is what im seeing as to my defense
    Is this a general thing when playing or specific to this game? Also why?
    In general. I tend to find D1s most fun as town. 
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  • My blanket assessment of Luka would be that their posts have gradually declined toward a classical mafia archetype. After a hot start, they have drifted much more out of view (and in alignment with a member of the mafia being mechanically outed, so that's not ideal). At face value, I think they're wolfy.

    With respect to Numbers interactions, I can find an argument in either direction if I want to. I think ExLight did well to discuss an interpretation that is favorable for Luka. I covered a contrary view earlier, in which it seemed that Numbers was antagonistic to Luka but also listed them as a town read (i.e., potentially establishing distance but without the threat of an actual bus).
    I don't lose motivation if a scum dies, first of all. I've been accused of this more times as town; its mostly because I dislike any day past D1.
    In addition, I cant see what about my posts gives you scum pings. No posts, only saying it does without reasoning is what im seeing as to my defense
    Is this a general thing when playing or specific to this game? Also why?
    In general. I tend to find D1s most fun as town.
    As for why- Uh, I have alot of baseless confidence d1 in tiny things. As the game continues I get more demotivated and frankly lost as more content comes into the fray. 
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  • I can get wanting to start conversation with the other townspeople, but why in the form of just saying to bangwagon someone who didn’t have much evidence against them?
    how else
    How else?? Like we haven’t seen others show how else, but…
    You could ask others about their stances on people, maybe try and see possible info that they gathered and discuss it? Luka, I really don’t get this reply…
    Stances on people with no content to give stances on? what? 
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  • I think I'm awake now, will start working on ISOing soon

    I hate dead games
    I get accused of LAMIST for just trying to generate discussion
    We wouldnt be here w/o me
    are your reads still the same? can you refresh our memory?
    Please reply to this, Luka?
    I. Don't know what my reads are right now. One second- 

    I'm comfy with You, Cait, Leesbra, Myself town
    POE of Serif JJJ Calla
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  • After reading on earlier posts from Exlight, they really don’t tell wolf to me. So I feel like it would still be Luka if we’re going off of the list Numbers gave…

    …though, there might be a chance Numbers used it as a throw-off to get more townmen out?
    Why are we following a scum list again lol 
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  • Hey everyone. EOD right?
    I can't point to any singular post but Luka hasn't come across well to me once this game. Between myself and the person Luka is voting, I'd much rather vote Luka.
    Vote: Luka
    I'll hang around for now, hopefully until EoD but I might have to leave before then.
    Anyone else here?
    Im incapable of explaining why but I dont like this slot 
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