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[mention]Sugar Moon[/mention]

I'd consider "Numbers isn't mafia with Cait btw" to be essentially a throwaway associative read that a hypothetical mafia Luka wouldn't feel beholden to later in the game. It's standard early game "looking involved" content in that scenario. It's rendered moot now with Cait essentially confirmed though.

As for your other point, about Numbers undermining a Luka town read on ExLight -- this is a moment I seem to read in the opposite direction. The "severity" of that moment, in which Numbers suggested Luka's comments were "massively untrue" seems more compatible with a momentary distancing maneuver when paired with what followed (or what didn't). Number didn't pursue that dialogue to any meaningful extent and then ended up dumping a frivolous town read on Luka when [possibly] thread consensus made it more palatable to do so.

I acknowledge this isn't the only interpretation of events available, but it's one thing I have considered when thinking of Luka as a candidate Numbers teammate.

That "mention" code didn't work at all. I dunno if a split name will let me use the @. Let's have a try.

@Sugar Moon

Luka

68 posts before I don’t have to play a game
We have an objective

Contrast this with Leesbra's posts about the posting above. You know who rushes to the postcap with a bunch of solvy posts? Scum.

I do want to test the voting system though and I will

Vote: Michi

to do so
sup buddy been a while

I have TMI they’re town don’t

Haha this is the type of joke I just see from mafia more than from town.


Now for the next part you need to look at a few quotes together:

Read List:

Town Lean:
- Ex
- Leesbra

Null but let’s pretend like scum lean:
- Cait

So Luka starts off townleaning Leesbra's opening post (below, notice time stamps). ExLight is also a townlean.

How do you do, fellow people?

Spoiler

Second game of Werewolf i’ve been in, first was… a bit chaotic to say. Wanting things to go well, though the way SOME people *cough cough* are theorizing about who is Werewolf or not already is a bit concerning.

From Florida, gremlin of a man,

Leesbra.

Townie

The fucking speed of you is terrifying

Can you ask what’s townie about it

I want to, but at the same time it’s like you probably have my address from that post

Genuinely you’re lock villager from 3 posts congrsts

(excessively large image spoilered by me btw) The bolded also pinged me because why not just explain instead of asking this? Looks lamist to me.

Leesbra / GoldenOne town

ExLight town lean

Caitlin null

The two paranoia posts from Leesbra have him move up to locktown, leaving ExLight behind.

My legacy after I get yeeted d1 for tmi: Leesbra town

Ex is town too by the way

...and here's my problem: ExLight is suddenly elevated back to equal footing with Leesbra even though he hasn't posted during this interval. That's not a real progression.

So that's why I scumread Luka. However, remember that Numbers undermined his townreading of ExLight (in the ExLight post above). Is Numbers the kind of wolf to see a partner make some dodgy reasoning and then quickly point it out himself? Or is it more likely that I'm wrong? Additionally, this post is nagging me:

Numbers isn’t mafia with cait by the way

Is this tmi or the type of post you don't make so you don't accidentally shut yourself out of being able to push Cait after your buddy dies?

Would like input. Be back in ~12.

You know who else? Somebody whos overwhelmed and wants to generate discussion in the most dead game ever
I do agree I see it more from mafia than town . Which is why I don't make jokes like those as maifa. 
Yeah they're town 
Its because I wanted to generate more discussion. 
Forgot the context for this too but my reads change all of the time for dumb reasons 
I forgot the context to the numbers cait thing so im not going to mention it

I hate dead games
I get accused of LAMIST for just trying to generate discussion
We wouldnt be here w/o me 

Vote: serif;

I end up here by POE. I'm still open to discussing Luka. I don't think I want to eliminate Sugar Moon/callahan. They ought to have an opportunity to continue with what they've started today.

EOD is coming tomorrow. I may not be available much, as I will have visitors from afar to show around town. I will try to poke in the best I can.

I'm done with my exams this week woo

might take a nap cuz I barely slelpt this week and when I wake up I'll do the things I had promised

I hate dead games
I get accused of LAMIST for just trying to generate discussion
We wouldnt be here w/o me

are your reads still the same? can you refresh our memory?

Sigh

Sorry JJJ I dont think I'll get the time/motivation to reply to you

Other things just are kinda.. higher prio for me rn then a dead game :/

I just rlly... have intuition that Serif & Sugar Moon, and Imo Ex is arguably the most spewed there

So I just... feel like it's in you/Luka/Leesbra. I do feel like you might be effort cleared, Luka might be meta cleared, and Leesbra just had the towniest start but I do wonder if thats the weakest reason atp

h

I think my only reads, being on icet and Caitlin, have been less than ideal, first game reads and all.
Nice to meet you Sugar Moon.

These make sense based on D2 but I'm surprised you seem to not consider your D1 reads

I couldn't think of any other reads. Maybe I'm just blanking though

It seems as if I am below post minimum…

So I took a bit of a look into some older posts, and I feel like some of the older posts might help us find out who the werewolf could be.
First thing I saw was that Exlight and Numbers didn’t seem to be as close as it seemed earlier, while being with Luka on their rankings it seemed like they didn’t interact much. It could either be that Numbers was trying to distance themself from fellow mafia, or that he might’ve seen ExLight’s potential and didn’t want to mess with it. Or some other thing that I might not be seeing…

There’s also the heavy push early on from Luka against Caitlin.

Also I suppose I should intro since I think Ex is the only one I know here...

I'm JayDreven (JD), Numbers, 15377 (specifically), NoName, Queenie, HangryHangryHippo, BlackDiagonalDragon, Hail_Hydra (1/2), umm....that might be all the names I've played under. I possibly have more years playing mafia than some of you have life experience. I will questionably be the lowest poster here. MU loves it when I do that in the hydra event too. I generally consider myself mediocre at this game.

Also I'll be basing my day 1 reads based strictly on who does and doesn't bandwagon Cait.

Let’s bandwagon cait

hi im exlight and i never played a mafia game before in my life is it like amongus
please be nice to me  =uwu=

Cait had an awkward start wanna wagon them

Lol that reminds me of champs spec chat

Ppl had a theory that 'Hey everyone' actually was my towntell, and 'Hey' my scumtell

Because I always start with one of the two, unlike what Luka says...

Awkward
Mafia

Read List:

Town Lean:
- Ex
- Leesbra

Null but let’s pretend like scum lean:
- Cait

Note how Luka told Numbers- a confirmed mafia- to follow along.
I feel like this was a troll bandwagon, but at the same time having gone against someone with very little information so harshly is a bit suspicious…

And then we have this post from Luka…

Hey i’m back because I still haven’t reached post min. Abigail begged me not to go quiet so here the fuck I am

Poor abbi
dont worry though abbi I’ll pick up there slack

Luka you already have 3 times Abigail’s posts. Do you really need to post even more?

Im lowposting
Bob is mafia

I know I was a bit harsh to Bob myself later on in the game, but Luka calling Bob a wolf over their message:

What a Glorious day for a Bob like me.

It really feels like Luka was using this type of satire gun-jumping to make it seem townie from the ridiculousness, but was mafia. For now, Luka seems like a likely Mafia, and if I had to choose between them and ExLight (which I really think is the main alternative, but doubt they would be mafia rn), then i’d do Luka.

Vote: Luka

There might be more to this that I haven’t really seen, so I do want to look through more of Luka and ExLight’s messages to see if anything might be of importance. But for what i’ve seen, this feels like a good vote.

And then we have this post from Luka…

Hey i’m back because I still haven’t reached post min. Abigail begged me not to go quiet so here the fuck I am

Poor abbi
dont worry though abbi I’ll pick up there slack

Luka you already have 3 times Abigail’s posts. Do you really need to post even more?

Im lowposting
Bob is mafia

I know I was a bit harsh to Bob myself later on in the game, but Luka calling Bob a wolf over their message:

What a Glorious day for a Bob like me.

It really feels like Luka was using this type of satire gun-jumping to make it seem townie from the ridiculousness, but was mafia. For now, Luka seems like a likely Mafia, and if I had to choose between them and ExLight (which I really think is the main alternative, but doubt they would be mafia rn), then i’d do Luka.

Vote: Luka

How can one be so obvious town yet so obviously wrong at the same time
Leesbra never pushes me as wolf here im 100% confident in that. 

There’s also the heavy push early on from Luka against Caitlin.

Also I suppose I should intro since I think Ex is the only one I know here...

I'm JayDreven (JD), Numbers, 15377 (specifically), NoName, Queenie, HangryHangryHippo, BlackDiagonalDragon, Hail_Hydra (1/2), umm....that might be all the names I've played under. I possibly have more years playing mafia than some of you have life experience. I will questionably be the lowest poster here. MU loves it when I do that in the hydra event too. I generally consider myself mediocre at this game.

Also I'll be basing my day 1 reads based strictly on who does and doesn't bandwagon Cait.

Let’s bandwagon cait

hi im exlight and i never played a mafia game before in my life is it like amongus
please be nice to me  =uwu=

Cait had an awkward start wanna wagon them

Lol that reminds me of champs spec chat

Ppl had a theory that 'Hey everyone' actually was my towntell, and 'Hey' my scumtell

Because I always start with one of the two, unlike what Luka says...

Awkward
Mafia

Read List:

Town Lean:
- Ex
- Leesbra

Null but let’s pretend like scum lean:
- Cait

Note how Luka told Numbers- a confirmed mafia- to follow along.
I feel like this was a troll bandwagon, but at the same time having gone against someone with very little information so harshly is a bit suspicious…

Notably, I cnat see how that incriminates me. Id argue it makes me more likely to be town, given how absurd that is to do to your scum buddy. 
In addition to that, it was to kickstart discussion; I hardly see how thats susp.