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cozmikrae
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  • Ok went back over the whole thread to see if I could pull a better read list. These are mostly gut reactions.

    Dolby - town
    Neon - feels honest
    Lau - pinging people for answers. Seems normal for Lau?
    TGN - feels like normal town play from TGN to me.
    Vro - townleaning for no good reason, just gut reaction.
    Red - nothing at all
    ENE - nothing at all, completely neutral.
    Gerrick - also a lot of no feelings.
    Ex - being chaotic, then disappeared.
    NoName - sussy, but also weird mystery thing going on. Probably nothing or maybe something?
    KOD - idk... gut level sus. Possibly just biased from last game.
    Can you elaborate on how Neon feels to you? Did they switch from scum to town in your opinion or what? how do you get here on them?

    rest fine

    honestly probably a good thing that Gerrick is bottom of nulls
    I've played 1 (maybe 2?) games with Neon. She's always hard for me to read, and whenever I sus her, she flips town. This feels no different. Honestly, the amount of off topic and out of the loop posts just reads like busy IRL townie to me. If she was wolf, she'd be paying more attention. A very good wolf could maybe fake that, but I suspect that's not the case here. 

    I feel like TGN is the same. 1/2 the time he's out of the loop, or just townie as hell.

    The reaction that confused me the most during Lau's cop claim, was @Captan_lunch. Instead of jumping on the (rather logical) bandwagon on Gerrick, you voted for Neon. Can you explain why that is?
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  • State of Fear is a fun read even if I fundamentally disagree with its purpose.
    Definitely don’t want to start a debate over whether or not global warming is real or not, but I did read a few of the scientific papers in his footnotes and they supported his assertion.
    I read them too all good reads in and of themselves. I don't think our views differ as much as one might think but this is neither the time nor the place for politics. 
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  • Ok went back over the whole thread to see if I could pull a better read list. These are mostly gut reactions.

    Dolby - town
    Neon - feels honest
    Lau - pinging people for answers. Seems normal for Lau?
    TGN - feels like normal town play from TGN to me.
    Vro - townleaning for no good reason, just gut reaction.
    Red - nothing at all
    ENE - nothing at all, completely neutral.
    Gerrick - also a lot of no feelings.
    Ex - being chaotic, then disappeared.
    NoName - sussy, but also weird mystery thing going on. Probably nothing or maybe something?
    KOD - idk... gut level sus. Possibly just biased from last game.
    Can you elaborate on how Neon feels to you? Did they switch from scum to town in your opinion or what? how do you get here on them?

    rest fine

    honestly probably a good thing that Gerrick is bottom of nulls
    I've played 1 (maybe 2?) games with Neon. She's always hard for me to read, and whenever I sus her, she flips town. This feels no different. Honestly, the amount of off topic and out of the loop posts just reads like busy IRL townie to me. If she was wolf, she'd be paying more attention. A very good wolf could maybe fake that, but I suspect that's not the case here.

    I feel like TGN is the same. 1/2 the time he's out of the loop, or just townie as hell.

    The reaction that confused me the most during Lau's cop claim, was @Captan_lunch. Instead of jumping on the (rather logical) bandwagon on Gerrick, you voted for Neon. Can you explain why that is?
    I mean not being able to read me is part of the fun no? 🙃 I'm all pomp and no circumstance.
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  • Wintermoot - Their picks are too boring to be scum.
    What's wrong with a simple, subtle flavour? Not everything has to be an explosion in your mouth to be good. :P

    I like salted caramel, cookies and cream or Oreo flavored ice cream.
    Ooo, I like salted caramel in general. I've just never tried it as an ice cream flavour.

    1. Yes I have improved a lot since last game. I think :P (no one take that as a confession)
    TGN has improved a lot in general since the last game. We're very proud of him. :D

    Considering that would ruin the lore I've carefully crafted for this game, your request for peaceful ice cream talk has been denied and replaced instead with violent pie pelting.
    Have we done an icebreaker on ice cream flavours though? Might be a good idea.

    Ok, time for some actual thoughts. First I will point out that I am not a huge fan of publicly giving town core and town lean reads. Those of you who have read either of my WC games at MU will note that I've made the same argument in both seasons that I played there. If we all, or a majority of us, say that we think X and Y are the most townie in our opinions it just paints a great big bullseye on their backs. I realize that it's easy to get a feel for how some people view others, but still think it's a bad idea to just come right out and say that I find someone lock town. At least early in the game. That can definitely change in the latter stages when there's a lot more to go on than we have in the first few days. That being said, I won't be giving a list breaking down my thoughts on everyone. My win condition, as town, is to identify and eliminate the entire scum team. Personally I find it easier to look for scum than to try town reading enough people to passively find the scum, if that makes sense. Basically what I'm getting at is that for the first few days at least I'm only likely to point out things that I find scummy, or that hit me wrong for whatever reason. It's a strategy that has served me well over the years and I don't see any reason to abandon it at this point.

    I didn't really sleep well last night, and got less than 3 hours total, so I'm pretty wiped out and apologize if this rambles or isn't as clear as I would like it to be. I'm also too tired to try and figure out the multi-quote mechanics here so I won't be quoting a bunch of different posts in order to make my case tonight. I'll try to figure that bit out when I'm better rested.
    Please get more sleep...I read about your health struggles, and beyond getting treatment the best thing you can do to have the best outcome is good diet, exercise, reduce stress, and SLEEP!!

    Yes, I can be a bit of a mother hen. :P

    I identify with what you're saying though about read lists, especially on the first day. I don't understand how anyone can really tell if someone is town or wolf on the first day without grasping at straws anyways, which is probably why usually nobody was voted off the first day in Wintreath's early games. And there's just so much casual stuff to sort through (my post isn't helping with this I know)...as the days go on we can at least hope that there'll be more of substance to go on.

    Otherwise I think your post is the most insightful so far (though I still have like 15 pages to read through), so thank you for that. :)

    I think Aerso scum-reading NoName for using an alt could be a cultural thing. In 10KI no-one has ever played with alts during our entire WW history.

    That being said, NoName being an alt isn't scummy. People like getting away from their meta - also as town - just to try something new. And of course to avoid being read exclusively on meta if that was a previous issue.
    Other than one time when the host was also a player, it's the first time it's happened in Wintreath as well. I think alts in general are just looked down upon in NationStates communities because of the possibility of spies, people looking to subvert the government, or people trying to get around bans. However, I've talked with Laurentus about the issue and I can understand why using alts would be beneficial in Werewolf, especially for players who tend to get typecasted and scanned or voted off first thing in the game.

    Good to know I'm not the only person who has been having trouble using multiquote.
    I've noticed a few people having problems with multiquote. Could you guys elaborate? I'll look into it.


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  • @Wintermoot at least for me it used to be when you'd collect them all and hit reply it would place them all in there for you but now it only places the first quote you add to multi-quote 
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  • As for the game itself, as usual with these huge active games I feel so lost. So much is being said, but it's not clear how much of it is of substance...I mean, is a wolf going to say anything to make themselves seem suspect on the first day? Beyond feeling like Aersoldorf has gone out of his way to be helpful in the game, I don't really have any impressions at the moment. I'll probably cast a vote of some kind tonight though just to make sure I don't accidentally use my one no vote out of inactivity.


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  • @Wintermoot at least for me it used to be when you'd collect them all and hit reply it would place them all in there for you but now it only places the first quote you add to multi-quote
    That’s what happened when I tried it too
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    Not cool Laur.
    "As I desire, so it shall be."
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  • why would anyone lie a result
    :nottoday:
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  • @Wintermoot at least for me it used to be when you'd collect them all and hit reply it would place them all in there for you but now it only places the first quote you add to multi-quote
    @Wintermoot at least for me it used to be when you'd collect them all and hit reply it would place them all in there for you but now it only places the first quote you add to multi-quote
    That’s what happened when I tried it too
    Based on initial testing, it seems to be an issue with Chrome and Chrome-based browsers. Multiquote seems to work fine in Firefox, but in Chrome and brave it only posts one quote.

    Chances are that an update to Chrome impacted some sort of functionality multiquote relies on, but it will take time to figure out what exactly is going on.
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  • Ok went back over the whole thread to see if I could pull a better read list. These are mostly gut reactions.

    Dolby - town
    Neon - feels honest
    Lau - pinging people for answers. Seems normal for Lau?
    TGN - feels like normal town play from TGN to me.
    Vro - townleaning for no good reason, just gut reaction.
    Red - nothing at all
    ENE - nothing at all, completely neutral.
    Gerrick - also a lot of no feelings.
    Ex - being chaotic, then disappeared.
    NoName - sussy, but also weird mystery thing going on. Probably nothing or maybe something?
    KOD - idk... gut level sus. Possibly just biased from last game.
    Can you elaborate on how Neon feels to you? Did they switch from scum to town in your opinion or what? how do you get here on them?

    rest fine

    honestly probably a good thing that Gerrick is bottom of nulls
    I've played 1 (maybe 2?) games with Neon. She's always hard for me to read, and whenever I sus her, she flips town. This feels no different. Honestly, the amount of off topic and out of the loop posts just reads like busy IRL townie to me. If she was wolf, she'd be paying more attention. A very good wolf could maybe fake that, but I suspect that's not the case here.

    I feel like TGN is the same. 1/2 the time he's out of the loop, or just townie as hell.

    The reaction that confused me the most during Lau's cop claim, was @Captan_lunch. Instead of jumping on the (rather logical) bandwagon on Gerrick, you voted for Neon. Can you explain why that is?
    I guess I didn't read the thread that good. When I read through for the first time I didn't see the cop claim and I didn't I see a vote count. My vote was just based on my first impression. I stand by it. I see no reason to unvote her either.
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  • why would anyone lie a result
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    also why take back the fake result before Gerrick appeared in thread? isnt it the most important reaction?

    if they were mafia they'd prolly come here claiming miller or something, which would prolly increase exponentially the odds of him being mafia had him fallen for the bluff

    not a fan of that play Lau, what did we even get from that
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    If town is going to unvote garrick, who are we going to vote? The play is not making a whole lot of sense yet. How is Literally Satan, Laurentus, going get his reads without the flip?
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    If town is going to unvote garrick, who are we going to vote? The play is not making a whole lot of sense yet. How is Literally Satan, Laurentus, going get his reads without the flip?
    See I don't like this. Why are you looking for wagon to jump onto?
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  • Ok went back over the whole thread to see if I could pull a better read list. These are mostly gut reactions.

    Dolby - town
    Neon - feels honest
    Lau - pinging people for answers. Seems normal for Lau?
    TGN - feels like normal town play from TGN to me.
    Vro - townleaning for no good reason, just gut reaction.
    Red - nothing at all
    ENE - nothing at all, completely neutral.
    Gerrick - also a lot of no feelings.
    Ex - being chaotic, then disappeared.
    NoName - sussy, but also weird mystery thing going on. Probably nothing or maybe something?
    KOD - idk... gut level sus. Possibly just biased from last game.
    Can you elaborate on how Neon feels to you? Did they switch from scum to town in your opinion or what? how do you get here on them?

    rest fine

    honestly probably a good thing that Gerrick is bottom of nulls
    I've played 1 (maybe 2?) games with Neon. She's always hard for me to read, and whenever I sus her, she flips town. This feels no different. Honestly, the amount of off topic and out of the loop posts just reads like busy IRL townie to me. If she was wolf, she'd be paying more attention. A very good wolf could maybe fake that, but I suspect that's not the case here.

    I feel like TGN is the same. 1/2 the time he's out of the loop, or just townie as hell.

    The reaction that confused me the most during Lau's cop claim, was @Captan_lunch. Instead of jumping on the (rather logical) bandwagon on Gerrick, you voted for Neon. Can you explain why that is?
    I guess I didn't read the thread that good. When I read through for the first time I didn't see the cop claim and I didn't I see a vote count. My vote was just based on my first impression. I stand by it. I see no reason to unvote her either.
    Oof. Your going to make a cosmic mistake. Or you would if anyone voted with you but most people are used to my play style by now 
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