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Did I misunderstand the rule then? I thought since no lynch was a vote it didn't count against you. @Michi can you clarify?

Wait yeah like, I actually didn't vote yesterday so I'm actually risking an inactivity lynch by not voting yet but quite a few of the people that Doc mentioned went for a No Lynch, which shouldn't lead to an inactivity lynch

6. If you do not vote for 2 consecutive Play Time phases, you'll be automatically removed from the party. Choosing to Vote: No Lynch does not count against vote activity. (Emphasis mine)

I have interpreted this to mean that if you vote: no lynch, it's treated as if you did not vote at all.
This was a huge element of why I said we can only vote no lynch every other day, which was kind of a big part of my analysis of how our numbers will hold up. If y'all'd genuinely thought that we could no lynch every day, we'd have had much more time available and the Seer solving the game would be a given.
Frankly, tau gets a pass from me because he's made two posts and so presumably hasn't been picking over the game with a fine-tooth comb like we have, but I'd definitely have expected Anubhav to catch that and am honestly kind of weirded out that he didn't.

Definitely you guys consider a natural werewolf player , someone who's instinct and intuition hits the right switch , which is why everyone expects big from me . If you consider the last game , I was not sussing LoS because of his behaviour , but more because he was an Ogun sub , this game is not as easy to comprehend as the last one I believe . The clues were left on a platter after Silv lynch , here the things are different , and so I guess I haven't performed as good as I was expected to

Did I misunderstand the rule then? I thought since no lynch was a vote it didn't count against you. @Michi can you clarify?

Wait yeah like, I actually didn't vote yesterday so I'm actually risking an inactivity lynch by not voting yet but quite a few of the people that Doc mentioned went for a No Lynch, which shouldn't lead to an inactivity lynch

6. If you do not vote for 2 consecutive Play Time phases, you'll be automatically removed from the party. Choosing to Vote: No Lynch does not count against vote activity. (Emphasis mine)

I have interpreted this to mean that if you vote: no lynch, it's treated as if you did not vote at all.
This was a huge element of why I said we can only vote no lynch every other day, which was kind of a big part of my analysis of how our numbers will hold up. If y'all'd genuinely thought that we could no lynch every day, we'd have had much more time available and the Seer solving the game would be a given.
Frankly, tau gets a pass from me because he's made two posts and so presumably hasn't been picking over the game with a fine-tooth comb like we have, but I'd definitely have expected Anubhav to catch that and am honestly kind of weirded out that he didn't.

It's that it doesn't count against though, not doesn't count toward, so I interpreted that as meaning that No Lynch doesn't count as a strike against the requirements for activity-based lynch. But now that you mention it I definitely see how it could be read the opposite way. Would definitely appreciate a @Michi clarification on this.

Voting No Lynch does not count towards inactivity.

IE:  If you unvote or simply don't vote at all, it racks you an inactivity counter point.  If you Vote: No Lynch, it does not.

@Eastern New England, Doc has indicated a desire to make you a counterwagon for today. I support this. What say you?

@Laurentus @Doc @Gerrick

I need to make a defense post to save myself , so here it goes:

1. I was never a part of D1 activity , and anyone here would agree , its the most absurd day , and everything carries a double meaning on D1.

2. My push on Lau was pretty much out of fear, that he might overpower town , and I hit him because I felt his attack on Gerrick was out of the ordinary , since Gerrick didn't do anything suspicious .

3. Vro said how influential Lau was as a scum , and I read a few things on discord which evidently suggested vote Lau out first (those were joke statements maybe , but had some basis after all)

4. Poking the inactive people by voting them is a viable option , but I didn't do that , fearing that switching votes wasn't available , however it seems that vote switch is allowed now , and so I feel I can vote a person to draw his attention when needed. And certainly , a game consisting 14 players , and finding 7 active , its really hard going this way.

5. I pushed Lau hard just because I knew I was town . Why stay on the tail of an experienced player who has good amount of trust from the other players , as a scum . There were easier targets , and given that I am truly inexperienced , it was certainly audacious to move for Lau as a scum.

6. LoS tried to prove me wrong in the last game , Mell called it trolling . Lau seemed to do the same thing , much more direct , as he included my inexperience and lack of ability to articulate my thoughts , and I did learn a thing staying in the deadchat , about these statements of underestimating to be the one that should make me push harder .

7. Had I been a scum, I wouldn't have had rooted for a Seer check , with so many already suspicious of me . I asked for seer check again when the wagon on me is the largest (today) , and I am still asking for a seer check now . Seer would have been an extra vote that I wanted to concede, had I been scum.

8. I did mention that I was tired of chasing Lau all the way , because I am not ready to take the responsibility of mislynching an experienced townie , and called out for the almost silent guys.

9. Doc told that I was imitating LoS's style of posting in large amounts , but most of it was cross questioning and clearing people , and that's not something I have done . The quantity might be around the same amount , but not the quality.

@Laurentus Anything you want to say after this post ? I am better than Doc in writing essays🤣

People asking to be scanned

I think a lot of people are severely overestimating how good I actually am based off of a single game but I'll take the praise.

I'm strongly requesting that the seer checks me tonight because I think it will be borderline impossible to fully convince people I am town outside of being cleared or my death.

@Laurentus @Doc @Gerrick

I need to make a defense post to save myself , so here it goes:

1. I was never a part of D1 activity , and anyone here would agree , its the most absurd day , and everything carries a double meaning on D1.

2. My push on Lau was pretty much out of fear, that he might overpower town , and I hit him because I felt his attack on Gerrick was out of the ordinary , since Gerrick didn't do anything suspicious .

3. Vro said how influential Lau was as a scum , and I read a few things on discord which evidently suggested vote Lau out first (those were joke statements maybe , but had some basis after all)

4. Poking the inactive people by voting them is a viable option , but I didn't do that , fearing that switching votes wasn't available , however it seems that vote switch is allowed now , and so I feel I can vote a person to draw his attention when needed. And certainly , a game consisting 14 players , and finding 7 active , its really hard going this way.

5. I pushed Lau hard just because I knew I was town . Why stay on the tail of an experienced player who has good amount of trust from the other players , as a scum . There were easier targets , and given that I am truly inexperienced , it was certainly audacious to move for Lau as a scum.

6. LoS tried to prove me wrong in the last game , Mell called it trolling . Lau seemed to do the same thing , much more direct , as he included my inexperience and lack of ability to articulate my thoughts , and I did learn a thing staying in the deadchat , about these statements of underestimating to be the one that should make me push harder .

7. Had I been a scum, I wouldn't have had rooted for a Seer check , with so many already suspicious of me . I asked for seer check again when the wagon on me is the largest (today) , and I am still asking for a seer check now . Seer would have been an extra vote that I wanted to concede, had I been scum.

8. I did mention that I was tired of chasing Lau all the way , because I am not ready to take the responsibility of mislynching an experienced townie , and called out for the almost silent guys.

9. Doc told that I was imitating LoS's style of posting in large amounts , but most of it was cross questioning and clearing people , and that's not something I have done . The quantity might be around the same amount , but not the quality.

I've highlighted two instances where people have asked to be scanned. I understand that from a Town perspective, if you're really not gaining traction, it's tempting to ask to be scanned, but also understand one thing: the absolutely most important person for the Seer to scan is the defender pair, so consider carefully whether you are truly worth a scan. If you're scanned and are Town, that's one person who joins the Seer army. If the defenders are scanned, that's two, and then the Seer has a much better chance of surviving.

That said, I am struggling to see a scum motive for asking to be scanned.

People asking to be scanned

I think a lot of people are severely overestimating how good I actually am based off of a single game but I'll take the praise.

I'm strongly requesting that the seer checks me tonight because I think it will be borderline impossible to fully convince people I am town outside of being cleared or my death.

@Laurentus @Doc @Gerrick

I need to make a defense post to save myself , so here it goes:

1. I was never a part of D1 activity , and anyone here would agree , its the most absurd day , and everything carries a double meaning on D1.

2. My push on Lau was pretty much out of fear, that he might overpower town , and I hit him because I felt his attack on Gerrick was out of the ordinary , since Gerrick didn't do anything suspicious .

3. Vro said how influential Lau was as a scum , and I read a few things on discord which evidently suggested vote Lau out first (those were joke statements maybe , but had some basis after all)

4. Poking the inactive people by voting them is a viable option , but I didn't do that , fearing that switching votes wasn't available , however it seems that vote switch is allowed now , and so I feel I can vote a person to draw his attention when needed. And certainly , a game consisting 14 players , and finding 7 active , its really hard going this way.

5. I pushed Lau hard just because I knew I was town . Why stay on the tail of an experienced player who has good amount of trust from the other players , as a scum . There were easier targets , and given that I am truly inexperienced , it was certainly audacious to move for Lau as a scum.

6. LoS tried to prove me wrong in the last game , Mell called it trolling . Lau seemed to do the same thing , much more direct , as he included my inexperience and lack of ability to articulate my thoughts , and I did learn a thing staying in the deadchat , about these statements of underestimating to be the one that should make me push harder .

7. Had I been a scum, I wouldn't have had rooted for a Seer check , with so many already suspicious of me . I asked for seer check again when the wagon on me is the largest (today) , and I am still asking for a seer check now . Seer would have been an extra vote that I wanted to concede, had I been scum.

8. I did mention that I was tired of chasing Lau all the way , because I am not ready to take the responsibility of mislynching an experienced townie , and called out for the almost silent guys.

9. Doc told that I was imitating LoS's style of posting in large amounts , but most of it was cross questioning and clearing people , and that's not something I have done . The quantity might be around the same amount , but not the quality.

I've highlighted two instances where people have asked to be scanned. I understand that from a Town perspective, if you're really not gaining traction, it's tempting to ask to be scanned, but also understand one thing: the absolutely most important person for the Seer to scan is the defender pair, so consider carefully whether you are truly worth a scan. If you're scanned and are Town, that's one person who joins the Seer army. If the defenders are scanned, that's two, and then the Seer has a much better chance of surviving.

That said, I am struggling to see a scum motive for asking to be scanned.

That makes me less of a scum ig ?

It moves you a bit higher in my estimation, but I am not going to clear you based on one thing. If you're Town, start acting like it.

It moves you a bit higher in my estimation, but I am not going to clear you based on one thing. If you're Town, start acting like it.

I placed nine things for you to evaluate

I think I need to hear your thought process for tunneling me again. I don't recall anyone saying I should be the D1 lynch on Discord, for example.

I think I need to hear your thought process for tunneling me again. I don't recall anyone saying I should be the D1 lynch on Discord, for example.

Vro did say something jokingly . Now it had some basis that you can be the best townie or the worst nightmare.

As of tunnelling , who else was there , it was 3 players speaking all the time.  And it was natural move owing to the fact that you gave a professional looking reason for a seemingly joke vote on Gerrick and the terms you used in your D1 read of mine seemed an attempt to subdue me. And I did learn that comments that is demotivating needs to be worked out with caution. However I will side with popular opinion and not vote you today , its useless to start a already sunken wagon , and you might be the best chance we have .

A new development would include Col moving a bit higher up , I had no knowledge about how he interacts and so I went in hot.

Hmm. Can I get some outside perspective here? Am I really that scary that it would inspire someone to tunnel me this much?

Hmm. Can I get some outside perspective here? Am I really that scary that it would inspire someone to tunnel me this much?

Apparently I am so I can buy that.

Okay so instead of a full reads list (which I'll post closer to EoD) I'll just post my PoE (process of elimination, I.e group of people I think are most likely wolves).

Colberius X
Anubhav Ghosh
Eastern New England
Hydra
Gerrick
taulover

The list is roughly ordered with bottom being wolfiest but not concrete yet. Wihin these six people are where I will almost always vote today. Everyone else is a townread to some various degree. Will look through these more tomorrow. If there's a particular TR you want to hear about please ask me.

I really need your full reads list.

Legacy of Smiles

With the exception of Nyght, does anybody who scumreads me have a reason for scumreading me besides being worried and/or not knowing how to read me? I feel like I should be null to most people based on the explanations they're giving.

Oh yeah no, if that's all it was, I'll go ahead and switch votes. I think I'm slightly more confident in Anubhav than Legacy, but Laurentus' hesitation had given me pause (hence his null-read in my list).

Switch Vote: Anubhav Ghosh

Wait, you actually SR me?

I assumed it was semi-joking or a reactions test.

Legacy, I'm scum-reading you because you seem to be the most scummy null I have, and I felt I needed a scum read. I'm not convinced you're scum, but I don't have a lot to go on especially since a quarter of the players are inactive and I'm town-reading a lot of players.

Would you be able to explain to me what makes me scummier than Hydra/taulover/ENE please?

Why are you so obsessed with not wanting to be scum-read? I don't understand it, people have explicitly stated that they won't go for you today and you're still trying to be null- or town-read by everyone.

Doc

What is RVS vote?

ISOing you to see if I was willing to actually vote for you instead of just reading you (esp. considering you're currently the biggest wagon, which I don't want to hop aboard unless I'm sure) I noticed you never got an answer to this question; RVS is 'Random Voting Stage', which is another term for a D1 vote made on basically no information whatsoever.

Now that that's been said, in the end I decided that while I'm still sus vis-a-vis Anubhav, I'd rather we had another wagon both for the reasons I outline above (I don't want to hop aboard the majority wagon unless I'm Sure) and for wagonomics reasons, since I'm obligated to vote today (as are Anubhav, BSR, Cozmik, ENE, Hydra, Nyght, and Tau) rather than no-lynching because of Rule 6.
Moreover, I'd prefer secondary wagon not be LoS, since even though I'm nullreading him, I acknowledge that that may well be driven by residual paranoia from last game rather than anything else, and so if we let him get lynched I think we're likely to be depriving town of a strong analytical mind.
Therefore on balance, I'm going to
Vote: ENE,
because thus far he has made exactly three posts, all of which are a single line and which give us no information to work off of. He doesn't have the least posts, but I think he has the least substance in his posts, and so among my nullreads he's the one I'm most comfortable offering up as a wagon.

Perhaps I would be more active if this game wasn't so hard to follow. I wasn't expecting this when signing up and reading this:

I figured I'd run a smaller game for those of you who want something a bit more calm but still fun.

@Eastern New England, Doc has indicated a desire to make you a counterwagon for today. I support this. What say you?

I don't support this.