GloriousBob posted on November 03, 2023, 11:50:52 PMYoung man your concern with me wouldn't be stemming from you being my only suspicion would it?It's an unusual concern you seem to have calling me what you have. I wouldn't think I'm any more or less guilty of that than half the patronage.Your acts haven’t solidified my suspicions, just simply made me think on if you could be mafia or not. And while what you said and expressed might be a small point as to why I looked at your posts, it is not what made me suspicious of you. Town can vote town, wolf can vote wolf, it’s happened many times before. You’ve made some questionable acts, but I have not seen you as a full blown wolf through the day.
Young man your concern with me wouldn't be stemming from you being my only suspicion would it?It's an unusual concern you seem to have calling me what you have. I wouldn't think I'm any more or less guilty of that than half the patronage.
callahan posted on November 04, 2023, 03:08:26 AM Numbers posted on November 04, 2023, 02:56:35 AM callahan posted on November 04, 2023, 12:23:17 AMHmm, I wanna create more talking, so I'll just throw myself out here - What makes me not a town read to you guys? When I think back on your posts the only thing that really comes to my mind is your response to JJJ and Bob which seemed a bit much to me. I don't think it's anything I'd scum read you for but it does generate enough pause that I wouldn't confidently town read you right now. Granted I have no experience with you so this is a read on a vacuum but that's where it sits currently. Do you mean by "seemed a bit much to me" as I was overdramatic, overreacting, have no idea what I'm talking about, or am plain wrong? Overdramatic would probably be closest. Like the "you are not real" stuff was just over the top. Could be performative, could be just how you are, I don't have a basis to answer that yet.
Numbers posted on November 04, 2023, 02:56:35 AM callahan posted on November 04, 2023, 12:23:17 AMHmm, I wanna create more talking, so I'll just throw myself out here - What makes me not a town read to you guys? When I think back on your posts the only thing that really comes to my mind is your response to JJJ and Bob which seemed a bit much to me. I don't think it's anything I'd scum read you for but it does generate enough pause that I wouldn't confidently town read you right now. Granted I have no experience with you so this is a read on a vacuum but that's where it sits currently. Do you mean by "seemed a bit much to me" as I was overdramatic, overreacting, have no idea what I'm talking about, or am plain wrong?
callahan posted on November 04, 2023, 12:23:17 AMHmm, I wanna create more talking, so I'll just throw myself out here - What makes me not a town read to you guys? When I think back on your posts the only thing that really comes to my mind is your response to JJJ and Bob which seemed a bit much to me. I don't think it's anything I'd scum read you for but it does generate enough pause that I wouldn't confidently town read you right now. Granted I have no experience with you so this is a read on a vacuum but that's where it sits currently.
Hmm, I wanna create more talking, so I'll just throw myself out here - What makes me not a town read to you guys?
Can we get a vote count, not sure where everybody is voting
callahan posted on November 03, 2023, 04:09:05 AM JaggedJimmyJay posted on November 03, 2023, 01:37:55 AMI do think there's some validity to interpreting Leesbra's Steve Buscemi post as towny. I can't speak to Luka's rationale, and they ought to expand on what led them to that viewpoint.I'll expand on my impression. I am content to believe that this is Leesbra's second game ever. For such a new player, there is often a natural resistance to or fear of the mere concept of someone making reads (let alone confident reads) based on game-entry content. The nerves inherent to a new player, including or especially a new town player, tend to make them more disinclined to make reads like that. They're slow, they're confused, and they're turbulent. It's perfectly okay to be those things, and it would lend itself to a mindset like like one Leesbra expressed: the way some people are already theorizing about who is a werewolf is a bit concerning.This can be taken with a fair grain of salt since the game is so young, and it's not a thoroughly developed impression. But I have seen this kind of thing before from brand new town players, and they have often responded that way to me for engaging straightaway in a similar manner to Luka's opening to this game.Okay, after rereading, I think the only thing that actually stood out to me was JJJ. I just feel like they are doing too much. I'm unsure if it's just how they play naturally but there is a fine line between "Look at me! I'm so townie and progressive!" and "I'm overcompensating because I'm scum and I want to be quickly town read." It's the beginning of the game, and they are already thinking too deeply about certain matters such as this post above. The middle paragraph specifically, like I'm reading this and all I'm thinking is what is the point of this? Why are you analyzing if it's this person's second game or not, and what traits they should have? It's just too much for no reason, and I'm unsure if it's playstyle or just you feel the need to overcompensate for something. And then their third paragraph is just completely discrediting themselves? I don't know what I'm supposed to do with this post. What is the intent behind this, because all I see is just a pile of words that actually have no direction behind them, especially after you accept that your post can be taken with a grain of salt? I feel like some of the stuff people here have said or done feels extreme, to say the least. An example being Luka supposedly locking in me being town after 3 messages. I don’t really get that… so I feel like it might either be that these people are either just spitballing to try and make it seem like they can tell when they might just be wolf… or they really are that smart, and i’m just dumb. Not sure who out of these people to vote, but some of yall act real weird…
JaggedJimmyJay posted on November 03, 2023, 01:37:55 AMI do think there's some validity to interpreting Leesbra's Steve Buscemi post as towny. I can't speak to Luka's rationale, and they ought to expand on what led them to that viewpoint.I'll expand on my impression. I am content to believe that this is Leesbra's second game ever. For such a new player, there is often a natural resistance to or fear of the mere concept of someone making reads (let alone confident reads) based on game-entry content. The nerves inherent to a new player, including or especially a new town player, tend to make them more disinclined to make reads like that. They're slow, they're confused, and they're turbulent. It's perfectly okay to be those things, and it would lend itself to a mindset like like one Leesbra expressed: the way some people are already theorizing about who is a werewolf is a bit concerning.This can be taken with a fair grain of salt since the game is so young, and it's not a thoroughly developed impression. But I have seen this kind of thing before from brand new town players, and they have often responded that way to me for engaging straightaway in a similar manner to Luka's opening to this game.Okay, after rereading, I think the only thing that actually stood out to me was JJJ. I just feel like they are doing too much. I'm unsure if it's just how they play naturally but there is a fine line between "Look at me! I'm so townie and progressive!" and "I'm overcompensating because I'm scum and I want to be quickly town read." It's the beginning of the game, and they are already thinking too deeply about certain matters such as this post above. The middle paragraph specifically, like I'm reading this and all I'm thinking is what is the point of this? Why are you analyzing if it's this person's second game or not, and what traits they should have? It's just too much for no reason, and I'm unsure if it's playstyle or just you feel the need to overcompensate for something. And then their third paragraph is just completely discrediting themselves? I don't know what I'm supposed to do with this post. What is the intent behind this, because all I see is just a pile of words that actually have no direction behind them, especially after you accept that your post can be taken with a grain of salt?
I do think there's some validity to interpreting Leesbra's Steve Buscemi post as towny. I can't speak to Luka's rationale, and they ought to expand on what led them to that viewpoint.I'll expand on my impression. I am content to believe that this is Leesbra's second game ever. For such a new player, there is often a natural resistance to or fear of the mere concept of someone making reads (let alone confident reads) based on game-entry content. The nerves inherent to a new player, including or especially a new town player, tend to make them more disinclined to make reads like that. They're slow, they're confused, and they're turbulent. It's perfectly okay to be those things, and it would lend itself to a mindset like like one Leesbra expressed: the way some people are already theorizing about who is a werewolf is a bit concerning.This can be taken with a fair grain of salt since the game is so young, and it's not a thoroughly developed impression. But I have seen this kind of thing before from brand new town players, and they have often responded that way to me for engaging straightaway in a similar manner to Luka's opening to this game.
JaggedJimmyJay posted on November 03, 2023, 04:25:44 AM callahan posted on November 03, 2023, 04:09:05 AM JaggedJimmyJay posted on November 03, 2023, 01:37:55 AMI do think there's some validity to interpreting Leesbra's Steve Buscemi post as towny. I can't speak to Luka's rationale, and they ought to expand on what led them to that viewpoint.I'll expand on my impression. I am content to believe that this is Leesbra's second game ever. For such a new player, there is often a natural resistance to or fear of the mere concept of someone making reads (let alone confident reads) based on game-entry content. The nerves inherent to a new player, including or especially a new town player, tend to make them more disinclined to make reads like that. They're slow, they're confused, and they're turbulent. It's perfectly okay to be those things, and it would lend itself to a mindset like like one Leesbra expressed: the way some people are already theorizing about who is a werewolf is a bit concerning.This can be taken with a fair grain of salt since the game is so young, and it's not a thoroughly developed impression. But I have seen this kind of thing before from brand new town players, and they have often responded that way to me for engaging straightaway in a similar manner to Luka's opening to this game.Okay, after rereading, I think the only thing that actually stood out to me was JJJ. I just feel like they are doing too much. I'm unsure if it's just how they play naturally but there is a fine line between "Look at me! I'm so townie and progressive!" and "I'm overcompensating because I'm scum and I want to be quickly town read." It's the beginning of the game, and they are already thinking too deeply about certain matters such as this post above. The middle paragraph specifically, like I'm reading this and all I'm thinking is what is the point of this? Why are you analyzing if it's this person's second game or not, and what traits they should have? It's just too much for no reason, and I'm unsure if it's playstyle or just you feel the need to overcompensate for something. And then their third paragraph is just completely discrediting themselves? I don't know what I'm supposed to do with this post. What is the intent behind this, because all I see is just a pile of words that actually have no direction behind them, especially after you accept that your post can be taken with a grain of salt? Vote: JaggedJimmyJayThis is a very uncharitable interpretation of what I had to say.First of all, reducing a player's effort to explain a thought process clearly to "look at me I'm so townie and progressive" is incredibly unfair. You've taken a post where I had quite a lot to say, and you have twisted it in whatever manner you can to portray it as me saying nothing. Time to color code.Green: You have referenced a portion of my post where I described why "Leesbra's second game" it is important to me and asked me why I brought up Leesbra's second game. The answer to that question is in the post. Players often fall into particular archetypes when they are brand new to the game, and I described what I have often observed from players who are brand new to the game. That is absolutely relevant to interpreting Leesbra's alignment, and I described precisely why I felt that way.Suggesting my commentary is "nothing" or "pointless" or "overcompensating" without actually engaging with any of it is disingenuous. I don't like that.Orange: Absolutely no thanks. I provided the direction earlier in the post (and in the post that preceded it on the same topic): here's why I think there's a valid reason to town read Leesbra. That is a direction. You are quoting a post that expresses that direction. It's right there. And in that third paragraph, I acknowledged that it's not a super confident read, and that I am not certain. That's called being responsible with a take. And yet even still, in the very same third paragraph, I reiterated my viewpoint. I have often seen brand new town players do what Leesbra did.Red: This extends from the orange bit, really, but it drives home why I don't like this so much. You would have to ignore the words in the post to come to this conclusion about it. Of course I accept that my read can be taken with a grain of salt, and I should. Anyone that doesn't allow for that in a read they've made on someone they've never played with before is being a little ridiculous.I struggle to believe that you read my post in good faith and came to those conclusions. It looks like you decided what your read on me was and then formulated an argument to justify it.Vote: callahanYeah, this doesn't make sense. New players has to fall into a certain player archtype? That just seems controlling. Like you must play like this because you are new is all what I'm hearing. Just because you don't like me saying you are overcompensating doesn't change the fact you are? Like you are literally color coding? I don't understand why you post something but you aren't even confident in it, and even suggest the fact people can take it for a grain of salt? Don't post something if your not confident in it? You're going to waste everybody's time. It just seems like you are blabbering for no reason even more now. You speak about a valid reason to town read Leesbra, but then you are like take it for a grain of salt? LOL? I am in no way ignoring your words at all, I'm left wondering what is the point of your post because I still do not see one. Like I'm looking, I really am. Me struggling to read your post in good faith is such a wack concept, I'm pointing out that you are overcompensating, obviously have no confidence in what you are saying, and just yapping to yap?
callahan posted on November 03, 2023, 04:09:05 AM JaggedJimmyJay posted on November 03, 2023, 01:37:55 AMI do think there's some validity to interpreting Leesbra's Steve Buscemi post as towny. I can't speak to Luka's rationale, and they ought to expand on what led them to that viewpoint.I'll expand on my impression. I am content to believe that this is Leesbra's second game ever. For such a new player, there is often a natural resistance to or fear of the mere concept of someone making reads (let alone confident reads) based on game-entry content. The nerves inherent to a new player, including or especially a new town player, tend to make them more disinclined to make reads like that. They're slow, they're confused, and they're turbulent. It's perfectly okay to be those things, and it would lend itself to a mindset like like one Leesbra expressed: the way some people are already theorizing about who is a werewolf is a bit concerning.This can be taken with a fair grain of salt since the game is so young, and it's not a thoroughly developed impression. But I have seen this kind of thing before from brand new town players, and they have often responded that way to me for engaging straightaway in a similar manner to Luka's opening to this game.Okay, after rereading, I think the only thing that actually stood out to me was JJJ. I just feel like they are doing too much. I'm unsure if it's just how they play naturally but there is a fine line between "Look at me! I'm so townie and progressive!" and "I'm overcompensating because I'm scum and I want to be quickly town read." It's the beginning of the game, and they are already thinking too deeply about certain matters such as this post above. The middle paragraph specifically, like I'm reading this and all I'm thinking is what is the point of this? Why are you analyzing if it's this person's second game or not, and what traits they should have? It's just too much for no reason, and I'm unsure if it's playstyle or just you feel the need to overcompensate for something. And then their third paragraph is just completely discrediting themselves? I don't know what I'm supposed to do with this post. What is the intent behind this, because all I see is just a pile of words that actually have no direction behind them, especially after you accept that your post can be taken with a grain of salt? Vote: JaggedJimmyJayThis is a very uncharitable interpretation of what I had to say.First of all, reducing a player's effort to explain a thought process clearly to "look at me I'm so townie and progressive" is incredibly unfair. You've taken a post where I had quite a lot to say, and you have twisted it in whatever manner you can to portray it as me saying nothing. Time to color code.Green: You have referenced a portion of my post where I described why "Leesbra's second game" it is important to me and asked me why I brought up Leesbra's second game. The answer to that question is in the post. Players often fall into particular archetypes when they are brand new to the game, and I described what I have often observed from players who are brand new to the game. That is absolutely relevant to interpreting Leesbra's alignment, and I described precisely why I felt that way.Suggesting my commentary is "nothing" or "pointless" or "overcompensating" without actually engaging with any of it is disingenuous. I don't like that.Orange: Absolutely no thanks. I provided the direction earlier in the post (and in the post that preceded it on the same topic): here's why I think there's a valid reason to town read Leesbra. That is a direction. You are quoting a post that expresses that direction. It's right there. And in that third paragraph, I acknowledged that it's not a super confident read, and that I am not certain. That's called being responsible with a take. And yet even still, in the very same third paragraph, I reiterated my viewpoint. I have often seen brand new town players do what Leesbra did.Red: This extends from the orange bit, really, but it drives home why I don't like this so much. You would have to ignore the words in the post to come to this conclusion about it. Of course I accept that my read can be taken with a grain of salt, and I should. Anyone that doesn't allow for that in a read they've made on someone they've never played with before is being a little ridiculous.I struggle to believe that you read my post in good faith and came to those conclusions. It looks like you decided what your read on me was and then formulated an argument to justify it.Vote: callahan
JaggedJimmyJay posted on November 03, 2023, 01:37:55 AMI do think there's some validity to interpreting Leesbra's Steve Buscemi post as towny. I can't speak to Luka's rationale, and they ought to expand on what led them to that viewpoint.I'll expand on my impression. I am content to believe that this is Leesbra's second game ever. For such a new player, there is often a natural resistance to or fear of the mere concept of someone making reads (let alone confident reads) based on game-entry content. The nerves inherent to a new player, including or especially a new town player, tend to make them more disinclined to make reads like that. They're slow, they're confused, and they're turbulent. It's perfectly okay to be those things, and it would lend itself to a mindset like like one Leesbra expressed: the way some people are already theorizing about who is a werewolf is a bit concerning.This can be taken with a fair grain of salt since the game is so young, and it's not a thoroughly developed impression. But I have seen this kind of thing before from brand new town players, and they have often responded that way to me for engaging straightaway in a similar manner to Luka's opening to this game.Okay, after rereading, I think the only thing that actually stood out to me was JJJ. I just feel like they are doing too much. I'm unsure if it's just how they play naturally but there is a fine line between "Look at me! I'm so townie and progressive!" and "I'm overcompensating because I'm scum and I want to be quickly town read." It's the beginning of the game, and they are already thinking too deeply about certain matters such as this post above. The middle paragraph specifically, like I'm reading this and all I'm thinking is what is the point of this? Why are you analyzing if it's this person's second game or not, and what traits they should have? It's just too much for no reason, and I'm unsure if it's playstyle or just you feel the need to overcompensate for something. And then their third paragraph is just completely discrediting themselves? I don't know what I'm supposed to do with this post. What is the intent behind this, because all I see is just a pile of words that actually have no direction behind them, especially after you accept that your post can be taken with a grain of salt? Vote: JaggedJimmyJay
Wont be here for the rest of the day, sorry
You may be asking yourself, Bob... how is it that you manage to be so darn Glorious all the time?The answer is quite simple. I make good decisions. For instance I'm making the decision right now to admin to Jay that I'm MacDougall. Because he probably will find that interesting.
