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    Vote: Corbin
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  • *squints at KoD*

    You are either town that is wrong or scum that is deliberately misleading for the purposes of thread control because the way you back off over Michi's alignment feels icky. You shade Michi for the flavor solving angle even though I 1) explicitly agreed with his attempt except for the RHPS speculation and 2) actively contributed further flavor solving, yet I get townread and he gets scumread?

    And then there's the whole speculation bit over why the SK targeted Numbers that spends quite a lot of wordage discussing the cookie metaphor Numbers used to express his opinion that we should consolidate wagons, which leads the reader to recall that Michi is vocally opposed to lynching, and that just trips the "this is scum aiming for an easy mislynch" detector.

    Vote: KingofDominaria

    I understand the thought process here Mel but this KoD is just KoD being town. Nothing here stands out as something I would not suspect of him and I don't think I could ever vote him right now. The NKs don't even really make sense for an SK or mafia lead KoD here. I guess maybe Numbers one could argue but I feel like he wasn't pressuring KoD nearly enough to warrant a kill and the vote was really just OMGUS

    Really though. That I was correct about the characters for 2 of the roles should have you all suspicious of me for having TMI. Everyone townreading me is sus. Except for Michi because I want to deathtunnel him, only 100% of my early game deathtunnel targets have been town in recent games, so I'm reverse psycholgizing myself into seeing him as town.

    I think I brought up TMI already with regards to you yesterday if I didn't I meant to or thought it at least. However like TMI only really makes sense in regards to your scum buds right your not going to explicitly be told every role in the game or know every detail so this reasoning feels like fishing

    For me, it's too early and too chaotic for me to say anything for sure, but Dominaria has a fair point... those who lie talk on and on in an effort to justify themselves to themselves or to other people (thanks JCS).

    Unfortunately this game requires snap reads and paranoid judgements it is what makes it most fun but also what drives many players away. It is psychological. With that said you certainly at least feel someone is more suspicious or less suspicious than others. I think you're a first time or at least relatively new player so I'm not coming at you from a place of suspicion but rather I want you to engage with us so we can find the bad guys and win ^^

    alright, first off how did you all become pollititions all of a suddon? and profeshinal writers at the same time?  I may be stupid and new, but i think that you are all just grasping at nothing. Like where is the evidence? you just write and write! like me now! If you are going to present someone make it clear and don't hide it behind paragraphes! Just put it out here with bullet points.

    RIght now i am susspishous of CoD, the fish king, becase they type so much and it anoyes my eyes and makes me sleepy.

    I hate this in every single way imaginable. We've expressed our thoughts and provided reasons we are reading the game based off the info we have which is the only way we can read the game. This is bad and I hate it.

    Fuck I deleted part of this
    i would like to appologize, its just soo much and i don't qite understand as i am new to these things. just was not expecting soo much reading. i htougth it ousld be small points so i appologize.


    Is this fake... feels fake
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    Corbin
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  • *squints at KoD*

    You are either town that is wrong or scum that is deliberately misleading for the purposes of thread control because the way you back off over Michi's alignment feels icky. You shade Michi for the flavor solving angle even though I 1) explicitly agreed with his attempt except for the RHPS speculation and 2) actively contributed further flavor solving, yet I get townread and he gets scumread?

    And then there's the whole speculation bit over why the SK targeted Numbers that spends quite a lot of wordage discussing the cookie metaphor Numbers used to express his opinion that we should consolidate wagons, which leads the reader to recall that Michi is vocally opposed to lynching, and that just trips the "this is scum aiming for an easy mislynch" detector.

    Vote: KingofDominaria

    I understand the thought process here Mel but this KoD is just KoD being town. Nothing here stands out as something I would not suspect of him and I don't think I could ever vote him right now. The NKs don't even really make sense for an SK or mafia lead KoD here. I guess maybe Numbers one could argue but I feel like he wasn't pressuring KoD nearly enough to warrant a kill and the vote was really just OMGUS

    Really though. That I was correct about the characters for 2 of the roles should have you all suspicious of me for having TMI. Everyone townreading me is sus. Except for Michi because I want to deathtunnel him, only 100% of my early game deathtunnel targets have been town in recent games, so I'm reverse psycholgizing myself into seeing him as town.

    I think I brought up TMI already with regards to you yesterday if I didn't I meant to or thought it at least. However like TMI only really makes sense in regards to your scum buds right your not going to explicitly be told every role in the game or know every detail so this reasoning feels like fishing

    For me, it's too early and too chaotic for me to say anything for sure, but Dominaria has a fair point... those who lie talk on and on in an effort to justify themselves to themselves or to other people (thanks JCS).

    Unfortunately this game requires snap reads and paranoid judgements it is what makes it most fun but also what drives many players away. It is psychological. With that said you certainly at least feel someone is more suspicious or less suspicious than others. I think you're a first time or at least relatively new player so I'm not coming at you from a place of suspicion but rather I want you to engage with us so we can find the bad guys and win ^^

    alright, first off how did you all become pollititions all of a suddon? and profeshinal writers at the same time?  I may be stupid and new, but i think that you are all just grasping at nothing. Like where is the evidence? you just write and write! like me now! If you are going to present someone make it clear and don't hide it behind paragraphes! Just put it out here with bullet points.

    RIght now i am susspishous of CoD, the fish king, becase they type so much and it anoyes my eyes and makes me sleepy.

    I hate this in every single way imaginable. We've expressed our thoughts and provided reasons we are reading the game based off the info we have which is the only way we can read the game. This is bad and I hate it.

    Fuck I deleted part of this
    i would like to appologize, its just soo much and i don't qite understand as i am new to these things. just was not expecting soo much reading. i htougth it ousld be small points so i appologize.


    Is this fake... feels fake
    well im sorry that i feel fake! but some people feel like they had to learn to wear a mask in any social setting becase people always got offended by what they think. i just think that its odd that Kod can type that much about other people so fast on the second day.
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  • That reaction to you certainly looked fake. So did the numerous typing errors.

    Reminds me of Soul from the previous game intentionally acting new 

    Course there's the auto focus on me too. Like, with not much said your first thought is I, of all people, am hiding behind words.

    Talk about l o l.
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  • *squints at KoD*

    You are either town that is wrong or scum that is deliberately misleading for the purposes of thread control because the way you back off over Michi's alignment feels icky. You shade Michi for the flavor solving angle even though I 1) explicitly agreed with his attempt except for the RHPS speculation and 2) actively contributed further flavor solving, yet I get townread and he gets scumread?

    And then there's the whole speculation bit over why the SK targeted Numbers that spends quite a lot of wordage discussing the cookie metaphor Numbers used to express his opinion that we should consolidate wagons, which leads the reader to recall that Michi is vocally opposed to lynching, and that just trips the "this is scum aiming for an easy mislynch" detector.

    Vote: KingofDominaria

    I understand the thought process here Mel but this KoD is just KoD being town. Nothing here stands out as something I would not suspect of him and I don't think I could ever vote him right now. The NKs don't even really make sense for an SK or mafia lead KoD here. I guess maybe Numbers one could argue but I feel like he wasn't pressuring KoD nearly enough to warrant a kill and the vote was really just OMGUS

    Really though. That I was correct about the characters for 2 of the roles should have you all suspicious of me for having TMI. Everyone townreading me is sus. Except for Michi because I want to deathtunnel him, only 100% of my early game deathtunnel targets have been town in recent games, so I'm reverse psycholgizing myself into seeing him as town.

    I think I brought up TMI already with regards to you yesterday if I didn't I meant to or thought it at least. However like TMI only really makes sense in regards to your scum buds right your not going to explicitly be told every role in the game or know every detail so this reasoning feels like fishing

    For me, it's too early and too chaotic for me to say anything for sure, but Dominaria has a fair point... those who lie talk on and on in an effort to justify themselves to themselves or to other people (thanks JCS).

    Unfortunately this game requires snap reads and paranoid judgements it is what makes it most fun but also what drives many players away. It is psychological. With that said you certainly at least feel someone is more suspicious or less suspicious than others. I think you're a first time or at least relatively new player so I'm not coming at you from a place of suspicion but rather I want you to engage with us so we can find the bad guys and win ^^

    alright, first off how did you all become pollititions all of a suddon? and profeshinal writers at the same time?  I may be stupid and new, but i think that you are all just grasping at nothing. Like where is the evidence? you just write and write! like me now! If you are going to present someone make it clear and don't hide it behind paragraphes! Just put it out here with bullet points.

    RIght now i am susspishous of CoD, the fish king, becase they type so much and it anoyes my eyes and makes me sleepy.

    I hate this in every single way imaginable. We've expressed our thoughts and provided reasons we are reading the game based off the info we have which is the only way we can read the game. This is bad and I hate it.

    Fuck I deleted part of this
    i would like to appologize, its just soo much and i don't qite understand as i am new to these things. just was not expecting soo much reading. i htougth it ousld be small points so i appologize.


    Is this fake... feels fake
    well im sorry that i feel fake! but some people feel like they had to learn to wear a mask in any social setting becase people always got offended by what they think. i just think that its odd that Kod can type that much about other people so fast on the second day.
    The sudden ability to type without spelling errors certainly points to playing up the new dumb player style but the random political ploy and lack of focus on the game itself points to a player who's been called out and can't defend themself within the general state of the game. 

    And KoD is hardly the only one making reads. It's Day 2 you either read now or die there's what 10 players left with a minimum of 3 scum and a max of probably 4 a mislynch today might actually just end the game actually lol
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  • *squints at KoD*

    You are either town that is wrong or scum that is deliberately misleading for the purposes of thread control because the way you back off over Michi's alignment feels icky. You shade Michi for the flavor solving angle even though I 1) explicitly agreed with his attempt except for the RHPS speculation and 2) actively contributed further flavor solving, yet I get townread and he gets scumread?

    And then there's the whole speculation bit over why the SK targeted Numbers that spends quite a lot of wordage discussing the cookie metaphor Numbers used to express his opinion that we should consolidate wagons, which leads the reader to recall that Michi is vocally opposed to lynching, and that just trips the "this is scum aiming for an easy mislynch" detector.

    Vote: KingofDominaria

    I understand the thought process here Mel but this KoD is just KoD being town. Nothing here stands out as something I would not suspect of him and I don't think I could ever vote him right now. The NKs don't even really make sense for an SK or mafia lead KoD here. I guess maybe Numbers one could argue but I feel like he wasn't pressuring KoD nearly enough to warrant a kill and the vote was really just OMGUS

    Really though. That I was correct about the characters for 2 of the roles should have you all suspicious of me for having TMI. Everyone townreading me is sus. Except for Michi because I want to deathtunnel him, only 100% of my early game deathtunnel targets have been town in recent games, so I'm reverse psycholgizing myself into seeing him as town.

    I think I brought up TMI already with regards to you yesterday if I didn't I meant to or thought it at least. However like TMI only really makes sense in regards to your scum buds right your not going to explicitly be told every role in the game or know every detail so this reasoning feels like fishing

    For me, it's too early and too chaotic for me to say anything for sure, but Dominaria has a fair point... those who lie talk on and on in an effort to justify themselves to themselves or to other people (thanks JCS).

    Unfortunately this game requires snap reads and paranoid judgements it is what makes it most fun but also what drives many players away. It is psychological. With that said you certainly at least feel someone is more suspicious or less suspicious than others. I think you're a first time or at least relatively new player so I'm not coming at you from a place of suspicion but rather I want you to engage with us so we can find the bad guys and win ^^

    alright, first off how did you all become pollititions all of a suddon? and profeshinal writers at the same time?  I may be stupid and new, but i think that you are all just grasping at nothing. Like where is the evidence? you just write and write! like me now! If you are going to present someone make it clear and don't hide it behind paragraphes! Just put it out here with bullet points.

    RIght now i am susspishous of CoD, the fish king, becase they type so much and it anoyes my eyes and makes me sleepy.

    I hate this in every single way imaginable. We've expressed our thoughts and provided reasons we are reading the game based off the info we have which is the only way we can read the game. This is bad and I hate it.

    Fuck I deleted part of this
    i would like to appologize, its just soo much and i don't qite understand as i am new to these things. just was not expecting soo much reading. i htougth it ousld be small points so i appologize.


    Is this fake... feels fake
    well im sorry that i feel fake! but some people feel like they had to learn to wear a mask in any social setting becase people always got offended by what they think. i just think that its odd that Kod can type that much about other people so fast on the second day.
    The sudden ability to type without spelling errors certainly points to playing up the new dumb player style but the random political ploy and lack of focus on the game itself points to a player who's been called out and can't defend themself within the general state of the game.

    And KoD is hardly the only one making reads. It's Day 2 you either read now or die there's what 10 players left with a minimum of 3 scum and a max of probably 4 a mislynch today might actually just end the game actually lol
    If my spelling was bothering you then here. i will take more time to correct thy errors of spelling, better? Thanks for autocorrect. I was just trying to convey my confusion, as i am new and a slow reader. I am confused on what you think i have to defend myself for, for i have not voted yet and have only voiced displeasure towards someone. Perhaps it is a rookie error but why should i present any counterargument when there is none to be made? I need not defend myself, i was just pointing something out as well. If just felt to me that they were hiding behind words. I don't know any of you too well, but if you really are concerned with me feeling fake, then perhaps i shall take my mask off for the rest of the game. It is up to you however most people in my area find me, my true self, off or disturbing. The choice is yours.
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  • Forever on this vote. Join me.
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    Does majority auto end the phase or not that will change how I play thing
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    It does not, no.
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    alright then, (takes off mask and sets it on desk) so why have you come to my office? Just to throw meaningless words at me? If you are going to vote me out at least tell me why? You have to have better than "you seem off", don't you? I am afraid i watch more anime and youtube then the shows so i have no clue what they are on besides Dr Who. I find it fascinating what the human brain can convince itself, even when lacking facts.
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    alright then, (takes off mask and sets it on desk) so why have you come to my office? Just to throw meaningless words at me? If you are going to vote me out at least tell me why? You have to have better than "you seem off", don't you? I am afraid i watch more anime and youtube then the shows so i have no clue what they are on besides Dr Who. I find it fascinating what the human brain can convince itself, even when lacking facts.
    What are your thoughts on players? I need to see some reads.
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  • Okay, I know Corbin is a new member and all, but I'm not liking the vibe I'm getting here.  Like Neon, I feel like they're really laying on the "I'm a new player lolz" act way too thick to where it feels much more like an act than it feels in any way genuine.

    Corbin, cut the act and tell me why I shouldn't hop on the train of voting you out of the game.  And then please tell me who you think the right choice to vote out would be.
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  • I feel compelled to hard shield Corbin for 1) being new and 2) having a nonstandard communication style. I recognize quite a few patterns that are consistent between posts which consistently get misread as disingenuous when they're just different.

    To answer your question of how we're getting reads this early in the game, @Corbin, quite a few of us have the benefit of knowing and playing with each other in the past, so we can use our knowledge of how the others play (our meta knowledge) to figure out if they're playing with or without an agenda.

    Another way to figure this out without knowing the players involved is to look back in the thread at who was talking to and voting whom, and what the nature of the interactions were, especially for the players who are now dead. Mafia is a game of social deduction, and who is killed and when often reveals who the killer(s) are, if you can figure out why a player was killed.

    Another way to solve is to look at people's reasoning. Are they stuck and unable to reevaluate? That's often a strong indicator that they're mafia because mafia often picks a target to get mislynched and attacks that person in the thread. More experienced mafia players are aware of this and try to mitigate this by indirectly attacking their target of choice. Some very experienced players can emulate a lack of knowledge of other players'alignments, so you have to deduce their alignment through other methods.

    KoD's playstyle is to bury everyone with wordage regardless of alignment, so to solve him, you need to analyze his content.
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  • Mafia has commonly used the new player tactic to enable a player to get away with a lot as mafia. I know Corbin is capable and I need them to give me more. I can't protect this slot as is.
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  • With all of that said, I'm really not liking how certain Neon and KoD appear to be that Numbers was the intended target of the Killer. We had a role that is confirmed to swap 2 players, and unless both of you know Aerso well enough to know who he would or wouldn't swap N1, I don't like the assumption that any of the kills N1 we're 100% deliberate.

    The way I see it, there's only 2 reasons to hold this assumption: you have no idea what a bus driver role even does because you're new to the game, or the kill you submitted went through unaffected.

    Coupled with how KoD seems to be invested in portraying the wolves as quiet and/or inexperienced, and I can easily see a wolf-lead narrative being built up in this here thread.

    I'm also really not liking how eager Michi is to jump on that Corbin suspicion train.

    I really want to declare wolfteam to be Neon/KoD/Michi, but I'm also staring down my "first deathtunnel = town" tendency.
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