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It's far more beneficial to play into the idea that the kills were intended than to play a hypothetical we have zero idea if it's true or not. This is flimsy reasoning at best, but tbf I simply built a narrative that makes sense to me I am hardly positive it is true.

Speaking factually it is highly likely that Aers was at the very least the actual target of the wolves because I doubt highly a transporter would ever transport themself.

Also all these roles have had the exact titles of roles in town of Salem and I find it likely that the roles are more representative of the town of Salem roles than the mafia roles. 

On another note Dolbys lack of presence concerns me. And the longer this phase goes with limited discussion the more convinced I am that we are simply going to get another default no Lynch...

The lack of wagon traction in any direction is concerning.

Yeah I'm like 95% on the KoD/Neon train (not so sure of Michi as his longer reads post seemed good to me). They're clearly controlling the narrative and are working a little too well together, using the same arguments. Why jump hard on Corbin as scum as a new player in the same post as saying Svip is just new and not scum? Does not compute.

Because KoD already has a vote, 
Vote: KingofDominaria

Honestly, think I'd prefer Neon, but I'm totally cool with KoD at this moment. 

Okay, I know Corbin is a new member and all, but I'm not liking the vibe I'm getting here.  Like Neon, I feel like they're really laying on the "I'm a new player lolz" act way too thick to where it feels much more like an act than it feels in any way genuine.

Corbin, cut the act and tell me why I shouldn't hop on the train of voting you out of the game.  And then please tell me who you think the right choice to vote out would be.

Very well. To begin with i don't remember saying anything about the people who died. So why vote for me when i have not even mentioned them up till now? And i know this makes me look more suspicious that I point myself out. "well now he is pointing to avoiding talking so he wouldn't be suspicious when they die" there is no winning for me here. I say one thing then it is used against me, but if i keep silent then that is used as well. i know that is how it works, but seriously? I will not offer any more excuses other than that, i have none. 

    I am suspicious of KoD, they all of a sudden posted a reply three times larger than everyone else's. Now i could brush this off but some people have made it clear that they think that the certainness of some people's words are quite suspicious, especially when we know that there was someone who could switch targets and stuff around. 

    I think that Kod is the lone killer or part of that group, is it a group? Ya'll say mafia, meaning that it is a group. I say lone killer because that is what the words, in the night report thing, seem to me. They seem way too out there to be with a team but that could be a play. 

@Melehan what are your thoughts now that this post, which is an almost complete 180 on prior to the earlier goofy mispelled posts, exists?

This is why I had concerns that the previous stuff felt fake, because now this post exists and shows that it in fact wa an act given how well thought out compared to the lolposts earlier.

I'm willing to give some benefit of the doubt since they listened and gave a serious answer like I asked, but I'm still not getting great vibes knowing that they were definitely hiding behind a facade now.

My stance is unchanged because from where I'm sitting, Corbin was pressured to put more effort into his posts and responded by putting more effort into his posts. Corbin is pretty obviously (to me at least) unfamiliar with mafia games in general, and that he is putting in additional effort to meet other players where they expect to be met when he has a nonstandard communication style indicates that he's most probably inexperienced town rather than scum coasting under the cover of newness.

For the record, I strongly disagree with Corbin's conclusion that KoD is unpaired Killer based off how KoD and Neon have been acting and interacting in the thread, but I can follow the line of logic, and it reads like inexperienced town logic.

The entire post also attempts to use the techniques I mentioned in my explanation post, so more points towards effort as inexperienced town with nonstandard communication style putting in the effort to meet everyone else where they're at.

I also agree that unless this is that singular one wolf + killer 3P set up that I had considered earlier that I also don't follow the idea that the Wolf Chief is unaffilated and broken from the main faction of bad guys...since for starters we would have potentially seen a third kill during the night by the other part of the faction...and I highly doubt Aren/Marz would have 3 separate killing roles/parties in such a small setup because if the kills all around plus day phase lynches were successful, I believe the game would be over very quickly.

This is very obviously a situation where either the Wolf Chief is either the only actual bad guy and the Killer is just a secondary killing role, or the Wolf Chief is just the face of the team similarly to how we've had games where the chosen wolf to carry the attack would be mentioned in the flavor.

I also agree that unless this is that singular one wolf + killer 3P set up that I had considered earlier that I also don't follow the idea that the Wolf Chief is unaffilated and broken from the main faction of bad guys...since for starters we would have potentially seen a third kill during the night by the other part of the faction...and I highly doubt Aren/Marz would have 3 separate killing roles/parties in such a small setup because if the kills all around plus day phase lynches were successful, I believe the game would be over very quickly.

This is very obviously a situation where either the Wolf Chief is either the only actual bad guy and the Killer is just a secondary killing role, or the Wolf Chief is just the face of the team similarly to how we've had games where the chosen wolf to carry the attack would be mentioned in the flavor.

That last part makes sense to me! No clue what 3P means can someone explain? 

3P is basically 3rd party.  You have your obvious good (Townie) and bad (Scum/Wolves), and 3P are the unaffiliated parties that normally don't affect the win conditions of the main two sides (but can depending on the host), and are generally just considered potentially problematic neutrals.

3P is basically 3rd party.  You have your obvious good (Townie) and bad (Scum/Wolves), and 3P are the unaffiliated parties that normally don't affect the win conditions of the main two sides (but can depending on the host), and are generally just considered potentially problematic neutrals.

thank you, that was very helpful and informative. 

For me, it's too early and too chaotic for me to say anything for sure, but Dominaria has a fair point... those who lie talk on and on in an effort to justify themselves to themselves or to other people (thanks JCS).

Unfortunately this game requires snap reads and paranoid judgements it is what makes it most fun but also what drives many players away. It is psychological. With that said you certainly at least feel someone is more suspicious or less suspicious than others. I think you're a first time or at least relatively new player so I'm not coming at you from a place of suspicion but rather I want you to engage with us so we can find the bad guys and win ^^

That's because I am a first time player! Closest thing I've come to this style of strategizing and consideration is in Among Us, and even then, I do not immediately go after particular people... I think part of it too is because, since moving, I missed out on the happenings of the first day, so having to catch up and compartmentalize all that info plus trying to read subtext has been difficult for me. I take no offense at all, Neon, thank you for the words of encouragement. I'll try to do better, even if I feel lost right now!