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Anyway, @TGN, a derp clear would be a town-read we assign to you because you repeatedly overlook that the votes happened as I fake-claimed Seer and pretended to scan Gerrick, and in this fake scan, said he was scum. Gerrick also wasn't the one people were calling the devil. I named myself Literally Satan just before I accused Gerrick, and changed my name back to Laurentus when I dropped the claim. I was the one people were calling the devil.

was the renaming related to the game?

Are you actually reading anything in this game? How can you know I retracted my claim yet not literally at the bottom of the same post see my mention of why I changed my name? Were you updated on the retract through maf chat?

Took me a while to realize that you had changed your name. I thought someone had subbed out and that Satan was a new player for a while. Then I noticed that the signature was still the same and had to facepalm myself.

cant say I've grown too fond of offtopic shenanigans like these, specially ones that could cause confusion lol

damn Lau why you playing like noob me with all these tricks have you grown bored of traditional methods

To an extent, lol. I have been playing mafia non-stop for 4 months now over at MU, and I began experimenting with FPSing back in April last year.

Someone made this cool diagram in a recent game I partook in:

this is cute lol what even is FPS though :notlikeduck:

cant say I've grown too fond of offtopic shenanigans like these, specially ones that could cause confusion lol

damn Lau why you playing like noob me with all these tricks have you grown bored of traditional methods

To an extent, lol. I have been playing mafia non-stop for 4 months now over at MU, and I began experimenting with FPSing back in April last year.

Someone made this cool diagram in a recent game I partook in:

this is cute lol what even is FPS though :notlikeduck:

Lau was right earlier, you don't really read the thread do you?

Fuck it thread is dead and I've done enough lying low is posting way to much but mostly just gifs and subtle things that might or might not matter lying low? I guess not but anyways

Vote: Captan Lunch

I don't trust. Now I do have a history of voting tit for tat on day 1 anyways,  and maybe that is part of it, but what concerns me mainly is...how do I say this? Voting for me on first impression? I could see that. I think ignoring what everyone has noted about my play style and relying solely on your interpretation of how I play versus your feeling of what Werewolf is might be a bit shortsighted especially since at most we played together one time I think. You don't even know me or how I play the game or why I do what I do. But what concerns me the most is the absolute lack of any reasoning other than it being a "gut" feeling about me. And what concerns me more is that inspite of your attempts to blame town for pulling the brakes on a Gerrick lynch they you yourself have never even been willing to jump on yourself and further pushing the issue while never moving off me or giving any reads list or reasons for why. Pulling the brakes on a lynch based on false information seems totally logical but slamming the foot on the gas to lynch someone because someone made a false claim about them when they were never on anyone's radar prior seems pretty fucking sus.

And lastly I don't think we should disregard the information about you lurking as scum previously in games considering how long it took you to contribute and your aggressive approach with little to no reasoning since you appeared

Your just omgusing me. Thats all this is. You contradict yourself. You say, "Voting for me on first impression? I could see that." Ok, but then later say" But what concerns me the most is the absolute lack of any reasoning other than it being a "gut" feeling about me." I said it was a "first impression", which you said you could see. Then you turn around phrase it as a "gut feeling" which you are not ok with?  Not only is that a bit contradictory, but your twisting my words.

About the Garrick lynch, which concerns you even more than what concerns you most.

Yes, I am willing to jump on the Garrick lynch, you say I never been willing to jump on, but it wasn't a matter of being willing, I wasn't here. But, If I was voting for him, I'd say it was premature for town to back off based on one post of Laurentus saying he lied. We'd still need to push for more information, it does not automatically mean either of them is town.

And about KoD's information, he likes to stir up trouble. What he said is not accurate, and he knows I'd be the one few able to catch him in his lies.

Bolded part of this. Like, why would your vote at the time be the determining factor and if you did feel that way why aren't you pushing in Lau/Gerrick now? And the entire reason to vote Gerrick unless you have an independent sus on him is removed. It's a weird take and a weird way to play and it's just to me

I am pushing for Lau/Gerrick now. I just didn't bother moving my vote last night. You don't think it's suspicious how he didnt address Laurentus's claim all day. When he does appear he susses me for not voting him, instead of going after Laurentus. Don't you think that's a weird play to make?

Unvote Vote: Gerrick

Anyway, @TGN, a derp clear would be a town-read we assign to you because you repeatedly overlook that the votes happened as I fake-claimed Seer and pretended to scan Gerrick, and in this fake scan, said he was scum. Gerrick also wasn't the one people were calling the devil. I named myself Literally Satan just before I accused Gerrick, and changed my name back to Laurentus when I dropped the claim. I was the one people were calling the devil.

was the renaming related to the game?

Are you actually reading anything in this game? How can you know I retracted my claim yet not literally at the bottom of the same post see my mention of why I changed my name? Were you updated on the retract through maf chat?

Took me a while to realize that you had changed your name. I thought someone had subbed out and that Satan was a new player for a while. Then I noticed that the signature was still the same and had to facepalm myself.

That's fine and fair, but that was not Ex's problem here.

Fuck it thread is dead and I've done enough lying low is posting way to much but mostly just gifs and subtle things that might or might not matter lying low? I guess not but anyways

Vote: Captan Lunch

I don't trust. Now I do have a history of voting tit for tat on day 1 anyways,  and maybe that is part of it, but what concerns me mainly is...how do I say this? Voting for me on first impression? I could see that. I think ignoring what everyone has noted about my play style and relying solely on your interpretation of how I play versus your feeling of what Werewolf is might be a bit shortsighted especially since at most we played together one time I think. You don't even know me or how I play the game or why I do what I do. But what concerns me the most is the absolute lack of any reasoning other than it being a "gut" feeling about me. And what concerns me more is that inspite of your attempts to blame town for pulling the brakes on a Gerrick lynch they you yourself have never even been willing to jump on yourself and further pushing the issue while never moving off me or giving any reads list or reasons for why. Pulling the brakes on a lynch based on false information seems totally logical but slamming the foot on the gas to lynch someone because someone made a false claim about them when they were never on anyone's radar prior seems pretty fucking sus.

And lastly I don't think we should disregard the information about you lurking as scum previously in games considering how long it took you to contribute and your aggressive approach with little to no reasoning since you appeared

Your just omgusing me. Thats all this is. You contradict yourself. You say, "Voting for me on first impression? I could see that." Ok, but then later say" But what concerns me the most is the absolute lack of any reasoning other than it being a "gut" feeling about me." I said it was a "first impression", which you said you could see. Then you turn around phrase it as a "gut feeling" which you are not ok with?  Not only is that a bit contradictory, but your twisting my words.

About the Garrick lynch, which concerns you even more than what concerns you most.

Yes, I am willing to jump on the Garrick lynch, you say I never been willing to jump on, but it wasn't a matter of being willing, I wasn't here. But, If I was voting for him, I'd say it was premature for town to back off based on one post of Laurentus saying he lied. We'd still need to push for more information, it does not automatically mean either of them is town.

And about KoD's information, he likes to stir up trouble. What he said is not accurate, and he knows I'd be the one few able to catch him in his lies.

Bolded part of this. Like, why would your vote at the time be the determining factor and if you did feel that way why aren't you pushing in Lau/Gerrick now? And the entire reason to vote Gerrick unless you have an independent sus on him is removed. It's a weird take and a weird way to play and it's just to me

I am pushing for Lau/Gerrick now. I just didn't bother moving my vote last night. You don't think it's suspicious how he didnt address Laurentus's claim all day. When he does appear he susses me for not voting him, instead of going after Laurentus. Don't you think that's a weird play to make?

Unvote Vote: Gerrick

That's actually not a bad point to make, lol. Wolves, especially ones who know me, are not fond of pushing me, it is usually Townies who are very concerned and paranoid about me who have the guts to do that.

I want to point out even though I'm voting Garrick right now. I will vote Neon Abagail or Laurentus. So there's not confusion on who I'm pushing.

I'm going to sleep on things and try to figure out who I want to vote for tomorrow.

My sus list at the moment, in no particular order:

Lau - never been a fan of fake claims, creates more confusion than clarity, which I don't think benefits the town at all; did see same thing in champs last year and it was a townie who did it, so probably the least sus on this list but that doesn't mean I trust him one bit

Gerrick - didn't like his eventual response to having been painted red by Lau (not sure if this precludes them being w/w together)

TGN - just rubbed me wrong with his 'joke' about there being 3 wolves, also didn't really understand the 'discord is down' comment unless he's involved in some group chat that we don't know about

CL - agree with Abigail that he came to the party late, voted for her over Gerrick, then his responses since then have been more aggressive than explanatory, still wants to push the Gerrick vote so don't see them being w/w together

Beginning to feel better about Abigail and Dolby; Moon still seems pretty quiet; KoD seems to just want to argue with everyone and defend NoName; I'm also feeling better about NoName as the game progresses - especially liked their post stating that they use alts all the time - that felt genuine and informative; can't get a read on Ex or Winter; find Coz just weird; Red and Anub don't stand out either way to me; ENE I feel has made some solid posts and I like their thinking, but that could be bias based on coming from the same region.

Happy? There's some town reads for those who are upset that I didn't want to give them. And with that, I'm crashing for the night. The book that I mentioned to Abigail earlier, Anathem, has a line in it to the effect that we do some of our hardest work while sleeping and I'm hoping that during the night my subconscious will be able to paint a better picture of the muddled mess that we find ourselves in at the moment thanks to Lau's trickery.

Oh, I forgot Vro in my list. I guess the fact that he slipped my mind means I should put him in the null category with Red and Anub, Winter and Ex. I think that's everyone but I'm sure someone will point it out if I missed anybody.

Aersoldorf continues to be townie, I believe he's the type of player who wouldn't be happy about FPSing (for the uninitiated, FPS stands for Fancy Play Syndrome), the only thing that rubs me wrong here is caving to pressure and providing Town reads.

smh, @ExLight, smh

I want to point out even though I'm voting Garrick right now. I will vote Neon Abagail or Laurentus. So there's not confusion on who I'm pushing.

Why tho? Abigail is townie af.

Fuck it thread is dead and I've done enough lying low is posting way to much but mostly just gifs and subtle things that might or might not matter lying low? I guess not but anyways

Vote: Captan Lunch

I don't trust. Now I do have a history of voting tit for tat on day 1 anyways,  and maybe that is part of it, but what concerns me mainly is...how do I say this? Voting for me on first impression? I could see that. I think ignoring what everyone has noted about my play style and relying solely on your interpretation of how I play versus your feeling of what Werewolf is might be a bit shortsighted especially since at most we played together one time I think. You don't even know me or how I play the game or why I do what I do. But what concerns me the most is the absolute lack of any reasoning other than it being a "gut" feeling about me. And what concerns me more is that inspite of your attempts to blame town for pulling the brakes on a Gerrick lynch they you yourself have never even been willing to jump on yourself and further pushing the issue while never moving off me or giving any reads list or reasons for why. Pulling the brakes on a lynch based on false information seems totally logical but slamming the foot on the gas to lynch someone because someone made a false claim about them when they were never on anyone's radar prior seems pretty fucking sus.

And lastly I don't think we should disregard the information about you lurking as scum previously in games considering how long it took you to contribute and your aggressive approach with little to no reasoning since you appeared

Your just omgusing me. Thats all this is. You contradict yourself. You say, "Voting for me on first impression? I could see that." Ok, but then later say" But what concerns me the most is the absolute lack of any reasoning other than it being a "gut" feeling about me." I said it was a "first impression", which you said you could see. Then you turn around phrase it as a "gut feeling" which you are not ok with?  Not only is that a bit contradictory, but your twisting my words.

About the Garrick lynch, which concerns you even more than what concerns you most.

Yes, I am willing to jump on the Garrick lynch, you say I never been willing to jump on, but it wasn't a matter of being willing, I wasn't here. But, If I was voting for him, I'd say it was premature for town to back off based on one post of Laurentus saying he lied. We'd still need to push for more information, it does not automatically mean either of them is town.

And about KoD's information, he likes to stir up trouble. What he said is not accurate, and he knows I'd be the one few able to catch him in his lies.

Bolded part of this. Like, why would your vote at the time be the determining factor and if you did feel that way why aren't you pushing in Lau/Gerrick now? And the entire reason to vote Gerrick unless you have an independent sus on him is removed. It's a weird take and a weird way to play and it's just to me

I am pushing for Lau/Gerrick now. I just didn't bother moving my vote last night. You don't think it's suspicious how he didnt address Laurentus's claim all day. When he does appear he susses me for not voting him, instead of going after Laurentus. Don't you think that's a weird play to make?

Unvote Vote: Gerrick

Totally agree with your logic here and may follow suit later on. I generally don't like changing my vote around a lot, I vote for whom I find the most sus and stick with it. Lau's retraction made me think we'd really messed up, but after sleeping on it I still don't like the fact that he didn't address the issue until after the fact, and even then his response was meh.

I'm going to sleep on things and try to figure out who I want to vote for tomorrow.

My sus list at the moment, in no particular order:

Lau - never been a fan of fake claims, creates more confusion than clarity, which I don't think benefits the town at all; did see same thing in champs last year and it was a townie who did it, so probably the least sus on this list but that doesn't mean I trust him one bit

Gerrick - didn't like his eventual response to having been painted red by Lau (not sure if this precludes them being w/w together)

TGN - just rubbed me wrong with his 'joke' about there being 3 wolves, also didn't really understand the 'discord is down' comment unless he's involved in some group chat that we don't know about

CL - agree with Abigail that he came to the party late, voted for her over Gerrick, then his responses since then have been more aggressive than explanatory, still wants to push the Gerrick vote so don't see them being w/w together

Beginning to feel better about Abigail and Dolby; Moon still seems pretty quiet; KoD seems to just want to argue with everyone and defend NoName; I'm also feeling better about NoName as the game progresses - especially liked their post stating that they use alts all the time - that felt genuine and informative; can't get a read on Ex or Winter; find Coz just weird; Red and Anub don't stand out either way to me; ENE I feel has made some solid posts and I like their thinking, but that could be bias based on coming from the same region.

Happy? There's some town reads for those who are upset that I didn't want to give them. And with that, I'm crashing for the night. The book that I mentioned to Abigail earlier, Anathem, has a line in it to the effect that we do some of our hardest work while sleeping and I'm hoping that during the night my subconscious will be able to paint a better picture of the muddled mess that we find ourselves in at the moment thanks to Lau's trickery.

Oh, I forgot Vro in my list. I guess the fact that he slipped my mind means I should put him in the null category with Red and Anub, Winter and Ex. I think that's everyone but I'm sure someone will point it out if I missed anybody.

Aersoldorf continues to be townie, I believe he's the type of player who wouldn't be happy about FPSing (for the uninitiated, FPS stands for Fancy Play Syndrome), the only thing that rubs me wrong here is caving to pressure and providing Town reads.

smh, @ExLight, smh

Not sure I understand this post...

I'm going to sleep on things and try to figure out who I want to vote for tomorrow.

My sus list at the moment, in no particular order:

Lau - never been a fan of fake claims, creates more confusion than clarity, which I don't think benefits the town at all; did see same thing in champs last year and it was a townie who did it, so probably the least sus on this list but that doesn't mean I trust him one bit

Gerrick - didn't like his eventual response to having been painted red by Lau (not sure if this precludes them being w/w together)

TGN - just rubbed me wrong with his 'joke' about there being 3 wolves, also didn't really understand the 'discord is down' comment unless he's involved in some group chat that we don't know about

CL - agree with Abigail that he came to the party late, voted for her over Gerrick, then his responses since then have been more aggressive than explanatory, still wants to push the Gerrick vote so don't see them being w/w together

Beginning to feel better about Abigail and Dolby; Moon still seems pretty quiet; KoD seems to just want to argue with everyone and defend NoName; I'm also feeling better about NoName as the game progresses - especially liked their post stating that they use alts all the time - that felt genuine and informative; can't get a read on Ex or Winter; find Coz just weird; Red and Anub don't stand out either way to me; ENE I feel has made some solid posts and I like their thinking, but that could be bias based on coming from the same region.

Happy? There's some town reads for those who are upset that I didn't want to give them. And with that, I'm crashing for the night. The book that I mentioned to Abigail earlier, Anathem, has a line in it to the effect that we do some of our hardest work while sleeping and I'm hoping that during the night my subconscious will be able to paint a better picture of the muddled mess that we find ourselves in at the moment thanks to Lau's trickery.

Oh, I forgot Vro in my list. I guess the fact that he slipped my mind means I should put him in the null category with Red and Anub, Winter and Ex. I think that's everyone but I'm sure someone will point it out if I missed anybody.

Aersoldorf continues to be townie, I believe he's the type of player who wouldn't be happy about FPSing (for the uninitiated, FPS stands for Fancy Play Syndrome), the only thing that rubs me wrong here is caving to pressure and providing Town reads.

smh, @ExLight, smh

Not sure I understand this post...

I'm (s)haking (m)y (h)ead at the fact that he's once more demonstrating how he's not reading anything in the game and at the same time showing him where I explained what FPSing means.

Fuck it thread is dead and I've done enough lying low is posting way to much but mostly just gifs and subtle things that might or might not matter lying low? I guess not but anyways

Vote: Captan Lunch

I don't trust. Now I do have a history of voting tit for tat on day 1 anyways,  and maybe that is part of it, but what concerns me mainly is...how do I say this? Voting for me on first impression? I could see that. I think ignoring what everyone has noted about my play style and relying solely on your interpretation of how I play versus your feeling of what Werewolf is might be a bit shortsighted especially since at most we played together one time I think. You don't even know me or how I play the game or why I do what I do. But what concerns me the most is the absolute lack of any reasoning other than it being a "gut" feeling about me. And what concerns me more is that inspite of your attempts to blame town for pulling the brakes on a Gerrick lynch they you yourself have never even been willing to jump on yourself and further pushing the issue while never moving off me or giving any reads list or reasons for why. Pulling the brakes on a lynch based on false information seems totally logical but slamming the foot on the gas to lynch someone because someone made a false claim about them when they were never on anyone's radar prior seems pretty fucking sus.

And lastly I don't think we should disregard the information about you lurking as scum previously in games considering how long it took you to contribute and your aggressive approach with little to no reasoning since you appeared

Your just omgusing me. Thats all this is. You contradict yourself. You say, "Voting for me on first impression? I could see that." Ok, but then later say" But what concerns me the most is the absolute lack of any reasoning other than it being a "gut" feeling about me." I said it was a "first impression", which you said you could see. Then you turn around phrase it as a "gut feeling" which you are not ok with?  Not only is that a bit contradictory, but your twisting my words.

About the Garrick lynch, which concerns you even more than what concerns you most.

Yes, I am willing to jump on the Garrick lynch, you say I never been willing to jump on, but it wasn't a matter of being willing, I wasn't here. But, If I was voting for him, I'd say it was premature for town to back off based on one post of Laurentus saying he lied. We'd still need to push for more information, it does not automatically mean either of them is town.

And about KoD's information, he likes to stir up trouble. What he said is not accurate, and he knows I'd be the one few able to catch him in his lies.

Bolded part of this. Like, why would your vote at the time be the determining factor and if you did feel that way why aren't you pushing in Lau/Gerrick now? And the entire reason to vote Gerrick unless you have an independent sus on him is removed. It's a weird take and a weird way to play and it's just to me

I am pushing for Lau/Gerrick now. I just didn't bother moving my vote last night. You don't think it's suspicious how he didnt address Laurentus's claim all day. When he does appear he susses me for not voting him, instead of going after Laurentus. Don't you think that's a weird play to make?

Unvote Vote: Gerrick

Totally agree with your logic here and may follow suit later on. I generally don't like changing my vote around a lot, I vote for whom I find the most sus and stick with it. Lau's retraction made me think we'd really messed up, but after sleeping on it I still don't like the fact that he didn't address the issue until after the fact, and even then his response was meh.

His logic is not great though because in the very next post he says he wants to push me or Abigail again. For very  reasons.

I'm going to sleep on things and try to figure out who I want to vote for tomorrow.

My sus list at the moment, in no particular order:

Lau - never been a fan of fake claims, creates more confusion than clarity, which I don't think benefits the town at all; did see same thing in champs last year and it was a townie who did it, so probably the least sus on this list but that doesn't mean I trust him one bit

Gerrick - didn't like his eventual response to having been painted red by Lau (not sure if this precludes them being w/w together)

TGN - just rubbed me wrong with his 'joke' about there being 3 wolves, also didn't really understand the 'discord is down' comment unless he's involved in some group chat that we don't know about

CL - agree with Abigail that he came to the party late, voted for her over Gerrick, then his responses since then have been more aggressive than explanatory, still wants to push the Gerrick vote so don't see them being w/w together

Beginning to feel better about Abigail and Dolby; Moon still seems pretty quiet; KoD seems to just want to argue with everyone and defend NoName; I'm also feeling better about NoName as the game progresses - especially liked their post stating that they use alts all the time - that felt genuine and informative; can't get a read on Ex or Winter; find Coz just weird; Red and Anub don't stand out either way to me; ENE I feel has made some solid posts and I like their thinking, but that could be bias based on coming from the same region.

Happy? There's some town reads for those who are upset that I didn't want to give them. And with that, I'm crashing for the night. The book that I mentioned to Abigail earlier, Anathem, has a line in it to the effect that we do some of our hardest work while sleeping and I'm hoping that during the night my subconscious will be able to paint a better picture of the muddled mess that we find ourselves in at the moment thanks to Lau's trickery.

Oh, I forgot Vro in my list. I guess the fact that he slipped my mind means I should put him in the null category with Red and Anub, Winter and Ex. I think that's everyone but I'm sure someone will point it out if I missed anybody.

Aersoldorf continues to be townie, I believe he's the type of player who wouldn't be happy about FPSing (for the uninitiated, FPS stands for Fancy Play Syndrome), the only thing that rubs me wrong here is caving to pressure and providing Town reads.

smh, @ExLight, smh

Not sure I understand this post...

I'm (s)haking (m)y (h)ead at the fact that he's once more demonstrating how he's not reading anything in the game and at the same time showing him where I explained what FPSing means.

Ah, so you just quoted the wrong post of mine?

Fuck it thread is dead and I've done enough lying low is posting way to much but mostly just gifs and subtle things that might or might not matter lying low? I guess not but anyways

Vote: Captan Lunch

I don't trust. Now I do have a history of voting tit for tat on day 1 anyways,  and maybe that is part of it, but what concerns me mainly is...how do I say this? Voting for me on first impression? I could see that. I think ignoring what everyone has noted about my play style and relying solely on your interpretation of how I play versus your feeling of what Werewolf is might be a bit shortsighted especially since at most we played together one time I think. You don't even know me or how I play the game or why I do what I do. But what concerns me the most is the absolute lack of any reasoning other than it being a "gut" feeling about me. And what concerns me more is that inspite of your attempts to blame town for pulling the brakes on a Gerrick lynch they you yourself have never even been willing to jump on yourself and further pushing the issue while never moving off me or giving any reads list or reasons for why. Pulling the brakes on a lynch based on false information seems totally logical but slamming the foot on the gas to lynch someone because someone made a false claim about them when they were never on anyone's radar prior seems pretty fucking sus.

And lastly I don't think we should disregard the information about you lurking as scum previously in games considering how long it took you to contribute and your aggressive approach with little to no reasoning since you appeared

Your just omgusing me. Thats all this is. You contradict yourself. You say, "Voting for me on first impression? I could see that." Ok, but then later say" But what concerns me the most is the absolute lack of any reasoning other than it being a "gut" feeling about me." I said it was a "first impression", which you said you could see. Then you turn around phrase it as a "gut feeling" which you are not ok with?  Not only is that a bit contradictory, but your twisting my words.

About the Garrick lynch, which concerns you even more than what concerns you most.

Yes, I am willing to jump on the Garrick lynch, you say I never been willing to jump on, but it wasn't a matter of being willing, I wasn't here. But, If I was voting for him, I'd say it was premature for town to back off based on one post of Laurentus saying he lied. We'd still need to push for more information, it does not automatically mean either of them is town.

And about KoD's information, he likes to stir up trouble. What he said is not accurate, and he knows I'd be the one few able to catch him in his lies.

Bolded part of this. Like, why would your vote at the time be the determining factor and if you did feel that way why aren't you pushing in Lau/Gerrick now? And the entire reason to vote Gerrick unless you have an independent sus on him is removed. It's a weird take and a weird way to play and it's just to me

I am pushing for Lau/Gerrick now. I just didn't bother moving my vote last night. You don't think it's suspicious how he didnt address Laurentus's claim all day. When he does appear he susses me for not voting him, instead of going after Laurentus. Don't you think that's a weird play to make?

Unvote Vote: Gerrick

Totally agree with your logic here and may follow suit later on. I generally don't like changing my vote around a lot, I vote for whom I find the most sus and stick with it. Lau's retraction made me think we'd really messed up, but after sleeping on it I still don't like the fact that he didn't address the issue until after the fact, and even then his response was meh.

His logic is not great though because in the very next post he says he wants to push me or Abigail again. For very reasons.

I was only referring to the logic regarding Gerrick...