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As soon as Barnes is confirmed I will present to the UH.

I would also like to make sure both the OH and UH have their opinions heard now.

I would suggest contacting every member of the storting before presenting anything regarding this subject. If it's not going to pass having another failed attempt will only be counterproductive. If Govindia could take a hint he wouldn't be here anymore, failing an attempt like this could even encourage him in his belief that everyone else is in the wrong.

Let's do this right, even if it takes longer?

As soon as Barnes is confirmed I will present to the UH.

I would like time to consult with my counsel on the recent statements so I may prepare a response to them please.

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I would suggest contacting every member of the storting before presenting anything regarding this subject. If it's not going to pass having another failed attempt will only be counterproductive. If Govindia could take a hint he wouldn't be here anymore, failing an attempt like this could even encourage him in his belief that everyone else is in the wrong.

Let's do this right, even if it takes longer?

I don't want to draw this out.

I also happen to know that all of the OH and UH are either for this or am ambivalent.

I would suggest contacting every member of the storting before presenting anything regarding this subject. If it's not going to pass having another failed attempt will only be counterproductive. If Govindia could take a hint he wouldn't be here anymore, failing an attempt like this could even encourage him in his belief that everyone else is in the wrong.

Let's do this right, even if it takes longer?

I don't want to draw this out.

I also happen to know that all of the OH and UH are either for this or am ambivalent.

Whatever my personal agreement on this matter; I am not sure I agree with the streamlining of something of this degree... This isn't something to be hurried though... And I know it's painful, honestly I think most people involved are getting tired of it. But that's not an excuse, sadly

I'm ~okay~ with the pace this is currently going, this is more of a warning for the future than anything

Again, I am asking for time to speak to my counsel so I can prepare a statement in response to what has been recently said.

And you shall have it.

Even if North introduces a bill, it will not be expedited. That being said, I agree with Hannah. As long as this can be kept as civil as possible, then we should do this properly.

iIRC you can not expedite revocations anyway.

That's what I was referring to.

While I agree overall, I'm going to mention that Emoticonius and I tried to help him privately after the revocation attempt a year ago. I actually thought it was working, but then Gov displayed the exact same behaviour again, that led to him getting perma-banned from IRC.

I'm afraid Gov is beyond our ability to help him, and he's been given countless chances. I am of the belief that the only way Gov might improve this behaviour is by seeking professional help that we cannot provide.

Laurentus is correct in this statement. Despite the less than good experiences I've had with Gov in the past, I did indeed do my best to help him but he is most assuredly beyond what help any of us can provide. I believe short of a PNG declaration, a revocation is our only option.

Any action we take must be well considered and well put together. There's no point hurrying something that carries this much weight.

In that regard we are in complete agreement.

Now I wish I'd run for UH

Any action we take must be well considered and well put together. There's no point hurrying something that carries this much weight.

I'm still working on a statement.  I have been rather busy as has been the counsel I am working with.  Rest assured I take this matter very seriously.

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