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BraveSirRobin
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  • @BraveSirRobin: Remember that transwarp drives do not exist in this RP.
      Yeah.  I just haven't edited them out though, yet.  Too busy adding relevant information.   

    But while we're on that note: 
    Transwarp drives are slower than hyperdrive,  right?  (At least they are in Star Trek)  And warp drives capable of 9.999999999999999999999 are practically trans-warp drives.  They're basically just advanced warp drives, from what I understand.  Does your research conflict?  Or are there transwarp drives in realms other than Star Trek?  Probably the only thing that I'd do would be to strike "transwarp" and replace it with "Warp 9.9999999-capable" drive or something.  I think that the capabilities of the ship aren't really enhanced too much with a warp drive that's really fast, especially when hyperdrives are a thing...
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  • I don't see how Warp 10 is a theoretical impossibility.
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  • I wanted warp drives to be much slower than hyperdrives in this RP. Transwarp drives are in some places explained to be being everywhere at once, which seems to make it a fundamentally different technology than warp drive.

    Considering Wookieepedia states that civilian starships are usually Class 5 or higher, I'd expect a top speed from warp drives to only be equivalent to around Class 7 or 8.
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  • I don't see how Warp 10 is a theoretical impossibility.
    It was placed as a limit by the authors of Star Trek as a handwave limit.
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  • I wanted warp drives to be much slower than hyperdrives in this RP. Transwarp drives are in some places explained to be being everywhere at once, which seems to make it a fundamentally different technology than warp drive.

    Considering Wookieepedia states that civilian starships are usually Class 5 or higher, I'd expect a top speed from warp drives to only be equivalent to around Class 7 or 8.
     
    Warp 10 is the asymptote of the graph, right?  The derivative is infinity at that point.  The more 9s that are added to 9.99999, the faster the speed, exponentially, if my understanding of Star Trek warp technology is valid.  When I talk about a transwarp drive, I mean a warp drive modified to allow speeds closer and closer to warp 10, none actually achieving it, because obviously, that'd be a HUGE tactical advantage, being both everywhere and nowhere at once.  I use the "transwarp" word in the sense that the Borg use it, not to go faster than warp 10, just to get closer to it.  Does that make sense?  I recognise that if you're interpreting transwarp as faster than warp 10 then of course you'd think that it'd need to be infinitely nerfed.  (Get it?  Because that sense of transwarp means infinite velocity?  :P)

    I don't see how Warp 10 is a theoretical impossibility.
    It was placed as a limit by the authors of Star Trek as a handwave limit.
      Warp 10 is infinite velocity, basically.  Just picture a graph like (x^3)/(10-x) over the interval from 1 to 10.  Adjust the scale a bit and that's basically a warp velocity graph :)
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  • I was led to believe that Warp intervals worked just like Mach intervals. Mach 5 is the speed of sound multiplied by 5. And if Warp 10 is infinite velocity, why can't you get from one side of the galaxy to the other in a matter of months instead of decades with a Warp 9.97 engine?
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    BraveSirRobin
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  • I was led to believe that Warp intervals worked just like Mach intervals. Mach 5 is the speed of sound multiplied by 5. And if Warp 10 is infinite velocity, why can't you get from one side of the galaxy to the other in a matter of months instead of decades with a Warp 9.97 engine?
    The slope goes up quite drastically with the Warp 9 stuff.  Warp 9.999999...(insert about 50 more nines)...999999 would would take less time.  Keep in mind, Voyager was 1) a Federation Starship and 2) a light scout, nothing as advanced as the Enterprise or anything.  I think it's max warp was like warp 9.2 or something for 10 hours or something.  It could probably only maintain warp 7 for long periods of time, I think, according to the series. 
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  • However, you could be thinking of TOS, which does employ a system sort of like Mach, where every warp increment is the warp speed (for example, warp 7) cubed (so for warp 7, 343*SOL). 
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  • The explanation from TNG is that velocity (in c) = (warp factor)^(10/3), up to Warp 9. After that, it goes on to an unexplained graph with asymptote at warp factor = 10.
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    It seems I have run out of room for my post. Here is Part 2.

    The United Acarian Empires Pt.2
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    Remus D Frigate
    The Remus Class D Frigate is a ship primarily used to siege planets. It also a good ship for barraging capital ships. It has torpedoes and missiles at its command. 25 light turbolaser turrets are equipped to deal with starfighters as well. It is 1500 meters.

    Pyrrhus Class Cruiser
    The Pyrrhus Class Cruiser is a 750 meter ship that is mostly used for blocking FTL drives. It uses a gravity well generator to create an aura blocking ships from escaping. It is equipped with 10 light turbolasers, 10 light quad turbolasers, and 15 ion cannons.

    Anastasia Capital Class Ship
    The Anastasia Capital Class Ship is a new series that will serve as a powerful and an image of Acaria's power. It is a huge 6,400 meters. It has 1000 weapons at its disposal and has 6 hangers. 400 Fighters and 300 bombers are stored. 7 thousand troops can be held.

    Specialized Legions

    Note: Some troopers may be in multiple legions at once.

    Rasshirennyy Recon Commandos
    Commander: Taras Petrovich Zhukov

    This legion is a deadly force, which consists of elite troops. They often scout ahead, and do jobs other troops won't normally do. They are often fighting ahead of the main battle line and often work with the other legions.

    Sergeant - Green
    Blue - Lieutenant
    Red - Captain
    Yellow - Commander

    Pyat'sot Pervyy Legion(Draconian 501st Legion)
    Commanders: Emperor Zemas XVIII
                                 Aedyn Zaegun
                                 Aleksei Suvorov
                                 Flavius Belisarius
                                 
    Despite the name, the 501st legion has a variety of races. This is the most prestigious legion in all of Acaria. The troops are highly specialized in all forms of combat, and are all trained to use different vehicles. Often, they can hold out against unlimited numbers of enemies with a limited number of troops. The main color of this legion is Red.

    Prodvinutyy Recon Sila
    Commander: Aulus Vagennius Quintillius

    PRS troopers or in common tongue, Advanced Recon Force, is a specialized force that also does recon jobs. They are also highly trained to use a variety of vehicles and often give fire support to the other legions. They also are specialized in fighting in harsh environments.

    Volch'ya staya
    Commander: Lavrentiy Petrovich Rozovsky

    Volch'ya staya, or Wolf Pack, was a large squad of troopers. They participate in a variety of battles. Their armor is Grey-Black. They are not specialized, but are still expertly trained.

    Acarian dvesti dvenadtsat' batal'ona
    Commander: Filipp Nakhimov

    The Acarian 212 Battalion was also a famous legion. Their armor is marked with orange. Like the 501st, they are also one to start battles and begin the first invasions.

    Sem'sot i Fourty Tri Batal'ona Morskikh Pekhotintsev
    Commander: Dmitry Senyavin

    The 734th Marines Batallion is highly specialized in frontal attacks and prolonged battles. They can fight up to many years in one battle. Their main color is purple and have specialized armor.


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  • @Commander_Zemas a 10 km ship is one thing, but a 20 km ship? Come on! That thing wouldn't be capable of FTL, and it would fly at a snail's pace! 10 km was pushing it, but now you've just gone too far.
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    @Commander_Zemas a 10 km ship is one thing, but a 20 km ship? Come on! That thing wouldn't be capable of FTL, and it would fly at a snail's pace! 10 km was pushing it, but now you've just gone too far.

    i just realised that i made it longer than the megaproject. woops
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    @Commander_Zemas a 10 km ship is one thing, but a 20 km ship? Come on! That thing wouldn't be capable of FTL, and it would fly at a snail's pace! 10 km was pushing it, but now you've just gone too far.

    http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Viscount-class_Star_Defender

    The viscount class has a class 1 hyperdrive and it is 17 km. :P
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  • @Commander_Zemas a 10 km ship is one thing, but a 20 km ship? Come on! That thing wouldn't be capable of FTL, and it would fly at a snail's pace! 10 km was pushing it, but now you've just gone too far.
    The 19-km long Executor-class Star Dreadnought (Super Star Destroyer) has a Class 2.0 hyperdrive. The Death Star II is 160 km in diameter and has a Class 3.0 hyperdrive.

    If you're going to accept other high-tech level things in terms of FTL speed (such as a Class 0.6 hyperdrive troop transport ship, which is ridiculous when the Falcon is Class 0.5), I think you'll have to accept this too.
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    October 2017 Wintreath's Finest: 4 November 2017
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    Speaker of the 32nd Underhusen: 12 February 2019 - 8 April 2019
    March 2019 Wintreath's Finest: 4 April 2019
    Librarian of the Underhusen: 12 April 2019 - 23 October 2020
    Commendation of Wintreath: 24 September 2020
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    Lord of Propaganda: 16 November 2014 - present
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    WACom Delegate: 11 November 2017 - present
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