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The Freedom of Information Requests Act
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    1. Title
      1.1 This shall be titled the Freedom of Information Requests Act

    2.Requests
      2.1 Any Citizen who voted in the previous regular election shall be able to petition the Government for the
           release of Information.
      2.2 Once a valid request has been made, a petition is created which requires 30% or more of the electorate
           to vote in favour of it. This milestone reached, the petition is considered recognised, and the government
           is required to act upon it.
      2.3 The Petitioner (author of the petition) can specify which, if any, department they desire to disclose
           information. If none is specified, it is assumed the whole government is specified, and it must then
           provide information from ALL branches on the requested topic/matter.

    3. Release of Information
      3.1 Release of information for Wintreath Entities.
        3.1.1 Upon gaining the required number of votes, the Monarch will appoint a random citizen to whom
                the task of gathering the requested information shall fall to.
        3.1.2 Information gathered is to be posted in the Petition topic, which is then locked. Further discussion
                is to be carried out else-where.
        3.1.3 The ministry or entity under orders to provide information is required to comply, granting access
                where necessary to closed forums or files.
        3.1.4 If the investigating citizen feels they have not met with full co-operation from the ministry or the
                entity under orders to comply, they must note so in their report.
      3.2 Release of information for Wintreans
        3.2.1 Upon gaining the required number of votes the citizen must release the information to the public
                in the same manner as listed in 3.1.1.
        3.2.2 If an individual under orders to release information chooses to leave, the case is closed, and any
                requested information known to the Government is made public in the manner listed in 3.1.1.

    4. After the Release of Information
      4.1 Concerning Wintreans
        4.1.1 Upon releasing the requested information the Wintrean does not need to answer any questions
                regarding the matter
      4.2 Concerning Wintreath Entities
        4.2.1 Upon the disclosure of requested information, the ministry or entity is no longer required to
                provide access to closed forums or files.
        4.2.2 Should the disclosure of information reveal wrong-doing on the behalf of the ministry or entity,
                the matter will be placed before the courts of law, and dealt with in due process.
      4.3 Concerning Legal action against Wintreans
        4.3.1 Should the disclosure of information reveal wrong-doing on the behalf of an individual citizen,
                the matter will be placed before the courts of law, and dealt with in due process.

    5. Exclusions
      5.1 The Following information shall be excluded from this act:
             - Personal Information (including: real name, age, residence [state/country], contact details etc)
             - Information from non-Wintreans, although if they so wish a non-Wintrean can provide evidence.
             - Information not pertaining to a Wintrean or to Wintreath, excluding matters of foreign affairs
               if such is the focus of the FoI request.

    6. Notes
      6.1 Whilst it is noted that the continued operation of the mechanisms of government is of course an
           important matter, if there is evidence to suggest corruption or law-breaking on the behalf of the
           government, ministries or bodies, it cannot be kept secret. To do so would defeat the point of
           this Act.

    48 hours for discussion, after which a motion to vote or extend debate - with or without a time provision - can be tabled.

    Hopefully this fixes some of the issues the Overhusen had with the last act. I've attempted to cut down red tape, and made certain exemptions clearer. Also, I removed the last provision of 5.1, as it totally invalidated the purpose of a FoI Act in real life, and I didn't see the point of providing a 'get-out' clause.

    Not that I'm suggesting anything about our government or anything, it's just accountability :)

    E: Note that with the Monarch/Underhusen vote section of the exemptions, I'm not sure whether to make it Und/Ov both or just one of the chambers.
    « Last Edit: May 04, 2014, 12:02:22 PM by Weissreich »
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  • Thank-you.
    You're welcome, felt bad leaving you to re-introduce the bill what with all the others you've introduced.
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  • It's okay. Generally I tend to introduce most of the bills(especially in the first underhusen) also we need to get someone to work on some law codes. I would attempt it, but I don't really know what to put in it.
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  • Apart from vote-rigging in the case of Underhusen Elections, where else will there be corruption in the government of Wintreath?
    It's not like Moot is going to divert your non-existent taxes from non-existent Federal budget to my non-existent bank account.
    This whole act is a violation of privacy and is amazingly intrusive. We might have to turn over queries and PMs? Well guess what, most people don't save queries anyways, and if they have PMs, they could easily delete them and then say, "Nothing there!"
    I do believe this act is foolish and will accomplish nothing.
    If anything we should be working on an overall procedure for law so that any accusations can be resolved in such a way that is more legal and won't be intrusive.
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    <+IH> There needs to be some constant to life that we can hold onto, something extremely difficult to find if we are constantly on the move.
    <@Vidarr> I hold onto the constant of change
    <+IH> How delightfully paradoxical.

    <@IH> Omega also suits you, it’s the symbol for electrical resistance.
    <@Delta> Are you saying I'm slow? :P
    <@IH> You were a component (see what I did there?) of the resistance in Wintreath, were you not?

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    21:36:51 <+Raven> Good evening Stark.
    21:37:03 <@Wintermoot> In any case, back on topic, I don't believe anyone should have to be required to reveal queiries or PMs, and I wouldn't order anyone to do so.
    21:37:14 <@Wintermoot> It's not a power I don't believe anyone should have.
    21:37:15 <@Vidarr> :D
    21:37:20 <@Wintermoot> Completely out of bounds.
    21:37:23 <+Ghant> That is reasonable
    21:37:35 <+Raven> Aye.

    From the mouth of your Monarch himself.

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      5.1 The Following information shall be excluded from this act:
             - Personal Information (including: real name, age, residence [state/country], contact details etc) Furthermore, discussions held by a citizen in Private Messages or One-to-One IRC conversations cannot be made available unless the Monarch states it necessary, or if the Monarch is the focus, a majority Underhusen vote states it necessary.

    This is literally null if the Monarch won't request PMs or queries turned over.
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    <+IH> There needs to be some constant to life that we can hold onto, something extremely difficult to find if we are constantly on the move.
    <@Vidarr> I hold onto the constant of change
    <+IH> How delightfully paradoxical.

    <@IH> Omega also suits you, it’s the symbol for electrical resistance.
    <@Delta> Are you saying I'm slow? :P
    <@IH> You were a component (see what I did there?) of the resistance in Wintreath, were you not?

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  • Considering the original act had no provision for the protection of PM's/1-2-1's, it's still an improvement. That being said, I do agree - however, if I were to be involved in a PM conversation with two others, discussing hacking the site and taking it over, and one informed the monarch? (Radical example) You'd want to see the PM's.

    However, I do agree - there's a fine line between necessary powers and overly intrusive legislation: you need to remember that my political preference is for a well-managed state that has enough powers to function efficiently, whereas Mootles prefers an executive-run state in which the Monarch has those powers himself. It's just two different ways of doing things :)

    I'll remove those two provisions, as it seems consensus is firmly of the opinion they aren't required.

    I was under the impression that this was half for-serious legislation and half for-fun, though. If we're doing everything based on how likely it is to actually happen, our opportunities to legislate are far reduced. And perhaps if we need an overall procedure for law, you'd be willing to help come up with it?

    Apart from vote-rigging in the case of Underhusen Elections, where else will there be corruption in the government of Wintreath?

    Honestly, I think this is a rather stupid comment to make. Where else? Anywhere else. The Underhusen could pass legislation that means the current reps stand for longer and longer, there's the potential for abuse in the executive bodies that Mootles creates, the Monarch him/herself could decide to start something technically illegal - I don't know yet, because so far everyone's actually decent people and don't need this law to make them behave like that.

    But the point of laws is not that they're needed (reactive legislation) but that they could in the future be required (pre-emptive legislation). I'm increasingly getting the feeling that I'll need to make a post explaining my political position so as to demonstrate why I hold certain views. :)
    « Last Edit: May 04, 2014, 12:06:26 PM by Weissreich »
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    <+IH> There needs to be some constant to life that we can hold onto, something extremely difficult to find if we are constantly on the move.
    <@Vidarr> I hold onto the constant of change
    <+IH> How delightfully paradoxical.

    <@IH> Omega also suits you, it’s the symbol for electrical resistance.
    <@Delta> Are you saying I'm slow? :P
    <@IH> You were a component (see what I did there?) of the resistance in Wintreath, were you not?

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  • I motion to vote.
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    <+IH> There needs to be some constant to life that we can hold onto, something extremely difficult to find if we are constantly on the move.
    <@Vidarr> I hold onto the constant of change
    <+IH> How delightfully paradoxical.

    <@IH> Omega also suits you, it’s the symbol for electrical resistance.
    <@Delta> Are you saying I'm slow? :P
    <@IH> You were a component (see what I did there?) of the resistance in Wintreath, were you not?

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