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Who do you think are the last 2 mafia and why?

I don't know...if I had any concrete ideas on certain people, would I be in this position?

But it seems to me that there are a few different categories of people at this point: people who voted and stuck with Projekt Red (myself and Bellapi), people who voted and stuck with Sugar Moon (you), people who changed their vote between the two (Rem, ExLight, Oricorio, and and Abbi), and people who didn't do day one and suddenly showed up today (Grace and RondoDimBuckle).

I asked about enforcement of the minimum post requirement in part because I'm wondering if there was host pressure on those two to come to the game or be removed from it, which would at least explain why they suddenly showed up. If there was no enforcement then it just looks like they suddenly showed up when it was more convenient to start playing, and that's not a good look.

Of those who switched votes, some seem to have had compelling reasons to do so, but most of that was the musical chairs played at the end of the round and it's mostly happenstance that they ended up landing where they did. Hard to know one way or another from that, but what good cover to be able to say that you voted for both of them to keep things nearly tied up?

As I mentioned before, Bellapi and I seem to have been in agreement about Sugar Moon, but I don't think that's suspicious, and I'll take him at his word that he's sick and that's why he hasn't been around since. Though given how things have gone that might be naive...I can say in Wintreath games that would be accepted without question, but there's obviously serious disconnects between how we played the game and how most people here do. In that at least this game has been illuminating.

And then there's you, the fortunate one who stuck with Sugar Moon most of the game.

If I were forced to rank suspicion, I'd start with the people who suddenly showed up, then look at the people who switched votes repeatedly at the end of the last round.

Right here I see several paragraphs of nothing. Can you actually give me two GTH wolf reads here?

Actually, I take it back, but also kinda not. Its very late in the day to try and effect the lynch. But I guess its important to know who his wolf reads are if he flips town

No Vote (Never Voted): Wintermoot, Bellepi, Master Radishes, Loona

Considering a wolf no voted yesterday not a fan that winter didnt vote early considering he is on the chopping block, Belle not voting is also intersting. MR cmon man, Loona at least voted d1 but has posted so could have voted

I wasn't going to vote while I was busy.

I think wintermoot has

1.good chance of being pushed by scum

2.not been very useful game wise

3. the extra downside of being in the red projekt wagon without not much elaboration


but to be fair Grace and master radishes are way worse in point 2

bellepi is okayish i  guess

rondo is only hanging on a claim above this, because the slot refuses to cooperate, while asking for cooperation, a clear contradiction.

the odds of the entire team being potato sacks and not helping is high because many people are being potato sacks and not helping case people

I guess we can leave radishes to be mod killed or something

and if there's a wolf in actives is between loona and EX

Wintermoot: 3 (RondoDimBuckle, ExLight, ☆ Princess Abigail ☆)

You were also on the wagon. 

So you are saying
A) PR Claim is scum
B) One of the two people who voted out a wolf when you didnt is scum
C) You are scum
D) Someone else who has been pushing winter but not voting them is scum, who? 


I havent gotten any cooperation why would I cooperate? This is a game of working together. The only tool I have is my cooperation. If I cooperate with you without you cooperating with me its a one sided exchange.
Town has to work together. It doesnt mean we have to play nice.

Why cant the active wolf be between winter/exlite or winter/loona? or even winter/you

If winter flips wolf this is the second time youve tried to save a wolf close to EOD.

What has you so confident winter is town? 

Vote: ExLight

for science

what is the science here? There is no way exlite is going over. I tried to push them earlier today and you didnt join then. why are you trying to push them now? 

Why are you trying to change the wagon off winter? 

would appreciate if cait poked some inactive people privately

would appreciate if you shared your worldview. Who is town, who are the last two wolves?

In fact would appreciate that from everyone. 

Wint I'll reply to ur giant post after I'm free.

I'm curious, are in-depth posts not a thing else where? I don't consider anything I've posted to be giant or a wall of text...they're actually short by NationStates standards.

I've noticed people have a tendency to make bursts of short posts in a row, and I initially thought it was to easy reach the minimum post count, but now I'm wondering if it's more a cultural thing.

Depends on the person, I don't do them. I like small and concise posts myself.

Actually idk if majority rule applies here

Vote: Unvote

Majority applied once day 2 started.

Soo I have seen you post after the original post I have highlighted and yet no response.

I was reading from a prior page, I am just now reading these. Don't try to angle shoot what I choose to reply to because it means nothing, I reply to what I see and feel like replying to. 

As for Wint, I do agree the discussion of angle shooting bs is so awkward given their position. Since you are correct it's makes the slot look fucking horrendous. 

@Wintermoot Can I ask why you voted red or the flipped wagon? Not sure it was ever even stated anywhere by you.

wtf happened to my post.

Grace's slank cover is lame, but not quite as lame as MR and Bellepi refusing to show up. I'm fine with a Wintermoot wagon, but won't vote right now as I don't want an early hammer.

Why not a Bellepi wagon over winter? He is obviously more active than her. Why are you ok chopping the high activity player over the low?

Why not you? Why shouldnt we chop you? What solving have you done today?

You point at the slackers but I havent seen you doing anything. You have been here sure. But you are basically a slacker too

Not sure what the point of this post is, but I also agree that slankers need to be handled sooner than later cause like otherwise if we keep hitting the high active and the low actives are the last 2 mafia we are never going to find them.

Why cant the active wolf be between winter/exlite or winter/loona? or even winter/you

If winter flips wolf this is the second time youve tried to save a wolf close to EOD.

What has you so confident winter is town?

My issue is I don't understand where your building these worlds from, like ignoring the fact you scum read winter which is a viable read, why us 3 as the connections? Mind you hard town read Rem and slikghtly town read exlight.

So I am having a hard time believing your winter worlds if the 3 people you suspect just dont feel like vioable options.

Actually idk if majority rule applies here

Vote: Unvote

its 6

L-2 is the point where a wolf rush could cause a hammer here (assuming no wolves already on Winter) so it's wise to be cautious

Grace's slank cover is lame, but not quite as lame as MR and Bellepi refusing to show up. I'm fine with a Wintermoot wagon, but won't vote right now as I don't want an early hammer.

Why not a Bellepi wagon over winter? He is obviously more active than her. Why are you ok chopping the high activity player over the low?

Why not you? Why shouldnt we chop you? What solving have you done today?

You point at the slackers but I havent seen you doing anything. You have been here sure. But you are basically a slacker too

Not sure what the point of this post is, but I also agree that slankers need to be handled sooner than later cause like otherwise if we keep hitting the high active and the low actives are the last 2 mafia we are never going to find them.

the point is to let ori answer the posts I ask them. Why do you feel the need to come defend them?

Why cant the active wolf be between winter/exlite or winter/loona? or even winter/you

If winter flips wolf this is the second time youve tried to save a wolf close to EOD.

What has you so confident winter is town?

My issue is I don't understand where your building these worlds from, like ignoring the fact you scum read winter which is a viable read, why us 3 as the connections? Mind you hard town read Rem and slikghtly town read exlight.

So I am having a hard time believing your winter worlds if the 3 people you suspect just dont feel like vioable options.

again its important you let Rem answer the questions I ask Rem.

Grace's slank cover is lame, but not quite as lame as MR and Bellepi refusing to show up. I'm fine with a Wintermoot wagon, but won't vote right now as I don't want an early hammer.

Why not a Bellepi wagon over winter? He is obviously more active than her. Why are you ok chopping the high activity player over the low?

Why not you? Why shouldnt we chop you? What solving have you done today?

You point at the slackers but I havent seen you doing anything. You have been here sure. But you are basically a slacker too

Not sure what the point of this post is, but I also agree that slankers need to be handled sooner than later cause like otherwise if we keep hitting the high active and the low actives are the last 2 mafia we are never going to find them.

the point is to let ori answer the posts I ask them. Why do you feel the need to come defend them?

Im not answering the questions for ori? I am commenting on a post that I have questions about myself. Your high and mightyness may scare others off on synidcate but it doesn't much towards me.

You ask alot of questions what what you plan to do with all these answers, do you think ori is scum? According to prior posts you don't seem to think ori fits in a world with winter.

Actually idk if majority rule applies here

Vote: Unvote

its 6

L-2 is the point where a wolf rush could cause a hammer here (assuming no wolves already on Winter) so it's wise to be cautious

lol if wolves rush today they are outing and game is over. So let them