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Luka
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  • Ice, ex, me, Leesbra, cait town. Almost JJJ too but 2/3 of the people they looked into are obv town . Regardless calla chops tmrow. Calla serif b2b is likely a win Vote: Numbers
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    That does not ring a bell, which is weird
    MacDougall is the full name of that matters for you. Do you feel like you should know them?
    nope
    (sorry if I'm supposed to know you bob)
    @Numbers sup, you're just everywhere ain't you lol
    Lil Asterisk asked me to come play. I'd point out that we've played here together before but I don't wanna out your experience lies or whatever. >_>
    well then don't  <_<

    Ex is town too by the way
    yessir I am the towniest bitch in this game and I hope I can show it by being a tryhard and hopefully finding scum
    Also I suppose I should intro since I think Ex is the only one I know here...

    I'm JayDreven (JD), Numbers, 15377 (specifically), NoName, Queenie, HangryHangryHippo, BlackDiagonalDragon, Hail_Hydra (1/2), umm....that might be all the names I've played under. I possibly have more years playing mafia than some of you have life experience. I will questionably be the lowest poster here. MU loves it when I do that in the hydra event too. I generally consider myself mediocre at this game.

    Also I'll be basing my day 1 reads based strictly on who does and doesn't bandwagon Cait.

    I looked back over Numbers, and my impression is similar as for ExLight. Their posts exist.

    I am a bit unclear on their reads, which at times seem sort of "implied" rather than stated clearly. @Numbers, I'd appreciate if you could clarify where you stand on everyone. A reads list or something similar would be super.

    Generally I try not to stand on people and probably tend to favor their left side, likely because I'm a righty myself.

    I've stated very few reads so your view isn't surprising. But since you asked, here's some rainbow sherbet:

    GloriousBob
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    Jamie
    Leesbra
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    BobbyMac isn't a hard town read but when you're that glorious you get to be green anyway. While this might not be Mac that I know from hydra games I feel like it's in line for Bob's presence in London adventure so I feel like that is NAI Bob persona vs how Mac just normally plays. I talked about why Luka had town points before and Ex just feels like he does whenever I rope him into games and he's half paying attention which I would attribute to lower pressure town!Ex vs scum!Ex. Serif, T, and Jamie are replacement null for now. Callahan I didn't really have issue with in terms of stances, as said before the over the top bit just gives me pause because I don't have meta experience there. On the other side of that coin is JJJ who I feel is performative but I'm paused from orange sherberting here because I feel like it's NAI performance. Like they might just be a theater kid and love the showman aspect. Leesbra gets to be orange because I reviewed their other game and do not feel they were nearly as timid. Could be dichotomy of alignments but could also just be them attempting to course correct since they were caught wolf day 2. Would rather see more out of the slot than see them go over though. Cait gets to be orange because the "why did you suddenly show up?" question just doesn't sit well with me. The only thing it does for a town!Cait is set up the argument that Ex was creeping in thread just waiting for somebody to mention him but that's like a horrible argument from a town perspective but would be an easy thing for a wolf to pounce on. I don't really expect a champs player to go for that low of fruit but also it just sticks out like a sore thumb.
    @Numbers sup, you're just everywhere ain't you lol

    @JaggedJimmyJay oh hey now we'll get to play together this time


    I thought jamieisbored would be here :-\
    Hope the kid is watching at least
    legacy jamie is probably town

    icet/bob/luka has one scum

    keep eyes on numbers
    Vote: GloriousBob

    if Numbers is coherent with their list they vote Cait and the wagons become threeway 2 votes tie among the people I have null/scum so that really works out for me

    These are interactions of Numbers and ExLight.

    There's a decent amount of content here, but I can't say that much of it makes me feel anything. If I am generous, there was one bit in Numbers' reads list about ExLight that reflects okay on him. I bolded it. The explanation that Numbers gave for town reading ExLight is a very specific meta read that might imply TMI (and if so, that'd mean ExLight is town). So on balance, call this a small tick in the positive direction for ExLight.
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  • Serif, T, and Jamie are replacement null for now.

    This is all Numbers had to say about Serif (along with two players that must be town if Numbers is mafia, Icet and Jamie). Perhaps there's a "rule of three" in that. Regardless this is a nothing comment and not worth much. Can't clear Serif on the basis of interactions.
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  • Icet
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    This is about where I'm at. If the bottom two don't end the game and Luka is still around, that's where I'd go next. As always though, remain vigilant and continue to reassess if the game drags.
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  • Sorry that light green color is blinding
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  • While the day continues before the hammer inevitably drops, it'd be great if everyone that hasn't already done so could share the player(s) they think are most likely to be teamed with Numbers.
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  • That reminds me that I wanted to take a look at Bob's parting thoughts too.
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  • ExLight is perhaps my top town for I do believe they are genuinely trying to solve my alignment and do not have it.

    Leesbra, at an earlier point of the game I felt like Leesbra was coming off awkward... "stilted" being the word. But Luka dropped a very flippant townread on them. My thought at the time was, well maybe Luka can be wrong. But as the game has unfolded Caitlin has also come to the defense of Leesbra strongly. I learn over time that this means Leesbra is probably town, particularly when one of the players shielding them is mafia.

    Callahan I was perhaps wrong on. In that I defended them to Jay. But subsequent to this interaction they have not profiled as the same type of player in further interactions. Their Jay read developed into a quite oddball townread and outside of their flirtation with tunneling KOFM himself their play has been chaotic in a way that doesn't feel townie. Less pursuit of solutions and more pursuit of resolutions if you catch my meaning.

    Luka is an enigma. They remind me of one of my versions. It feels like they steamed into the game issuing takes to generate impressions but has had an emotion draining event occur and ergo has been unable to maintain. I leave alone for now. I think lightly townie to blatantly fall off.

    JJJ is town but not overwhelmingly so as yet. They seem progressive, which is good. And need continue to be. Heed my words that if at any stage I'm gone and Jay remains alive, his momentum must maintain or improve. Any falling off should be viewed with high scepticism. Any laziness. On merit his play has felt mostly genuine and his solving has been the most coherent and rational to me. And we must reward good behaviour!

    Serif's entry was quite nice. I felt some joy. There was no apprehension. A little bit of playfulness. I give them time.

    Numbers, curious how I'm their top town but I largely believe I'm mind melding with their other solves.

    I feel that if Numbers, Jay, ExLight and myself were able to find each other. We may have a good outcome on this day and in this game. It feels like the towncore to me, but I am aware I perhaps haven't earned entry. :))

    I snipped this to shorten the quote by removing the people cleared if Numbers is mafia (Icet and Cait) and Jamie. I acknowledge that analyzing the night kill comes with wifom, but it should still at least be respected -- ignoring it completely is worse than giving it full weight. The standout here is probably callahan, as Bob posted this list of reads pre-EOD and then toyed around with other suspicions during the accelerated EOD posting period -- but callahan was consistently present as a suspect in both. Luka might be another example to a lesser extent.

    I'm not sure why a Numbers/Serif team kills Bob with this post in the thread, but who knows.

    Necessary caveat: if Bob was killed in hopes of being a power role, that dilutes the value of this logic. Use or don't use this information at your discretion if I end up dead in the nearish future.
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  • I can't lie this entire redcheck thing has been kind of demotivating, I think it's because I didn't really get what was going on until it was sorted.
    I'm here, but from the looks of it the game is over and I don't have much to add if it isn't. Sorry about that.
    I think it's best just to go forward from here.
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  • Icet
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    This is about where I'm at. If the bottom two don't end the game and Luka is still around, that's where I'd go next. As always though, remain vigilant and continue to reassess if the game drags.
    if the bottom two dont end the game we go you, otherwise its good 
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  • I can't lie this entire redcheck thing has been kind of demotivating, I think it's because I didn't really get what was going on until it was sorted.
    I'm here, but from the looks of it the game is over and I don't have much to add if it isn't. Sorry about that.
    I think it's best just to go forward from here.
    Vote: Numbers
    yeah games over
    its calla + numbers
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  • Caitlin used Hammer Attack!

    Vote: Numbers

    Also the Bodyguard should NOT defend Icet. Ofcourse, the Bodyguard can ignore this advice. But this is why I feel that way;

    The Godfather nmw attacks Icet. So if the BG defends Icet tn, the BG dies instead. Yes, we have Icet and the Cop alive on D3, but Icet would die N3, so we wont get their track nmw (they cant track again till N3, and Icet dies N2 or N3 nmw) -> leaving us with only 1 PR on D4, if it gets that far.

    If the BG doesn't defend Icet, then we still have 2 PRs D3, but the mafia now doesn't have a confirmed PR to aim for on N3, meaning that it's possible we enter D4 with 2 PR's, opposed to just 1-

    All PR's are useless now (BG can save someone, confirming them, but already can confirm self by claiming, so it'd lead from 1 conf to 1 conf) (Cop can only find the Roleblocker) (Icet won't be alive D4) so this is just based on on maximizing amount of PRs alive

    Anyway good night. The BG is welcome to ignore my advice if they deem it best to save Icet
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    Thats a HAMMER. Nobody is getting proded for post count when the day ended so fast 

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    It felt like Abigail had just left when Ice walked out of his tent rubbing his eyes. 

    "What did I miss?" He asked. "Sorry long night." 

    "Well Bob is dead," Numbers said turning away his head to avoid looking Ice in the eyes. 

    "Oh right. You did that." ice said walking away. The others looked at him confused. "Trust."

    "Sure why not," Caitlin called Abigail back, her cheeks turning red.

    "Oh hey babes that was fast, " Abbi giggled pulling out her knife and flipping it open. She kissed Caitlin and walked over to Numbers. "Sorry friend," she said avoiding his eyes as she stabbed him in the chest. She pulled the knife back out and licked the blood off it before folding it back up and putting it in her pocket. 

    "Your girlfriend is kinda scary," Leesbra whispered leaning over to Caitlin. 

    "So anyways. Good job." Abbi smiled skipping away.

    Extended night phase.  Will end November 8th at 5 PM Central

    Numbers is dead he flips Mafia Roleblocker.
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    I fucked up and advanced the phase before killing Numbers so he's listed a dying N2 but he died D2
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