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JaggedJimmyJay
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  • that's why I TR Jimmy


    you might be right Jimmy could be Mafia but I'm TRing them for now and I think you're town for making this post lol

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    don't know if you guys still suspect each other don't think you are voting each other last time I checked, but I think you 2 are t/t. Luka is the scum here though.

    posting this now so y'all know I existed and so this doesn't get too long I read up to page 11

    I'm referring to this bit.
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  • I'm reviewing Icet now. I'm mostly ambivalent, but there is one moment that catches my eye. Their reception of the argument between callahan and I was awkward.

    Referencing callahan's gripes with me as "why they town read Jay" is hard to understand. And they were a bit quick to dismiss the whole thing as town/town.
    Absolutely hate paging myself, so bringing this back to provide context to the quote I just referenced.
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    GloriousBob
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  • ExLight is perhaps my top town for I do believe they are genuinely trying to solve my alignment and do not have it.

    Caitlin ah dear Caitlin. It is a difficult proposition articulating suspicion on you in a way that I am confident won't aggrieve you so I shan't reiterate my prior point. Apologies if I have the wrong of you.

    Leesbra, at an earlier point of the game I felt like Leesbra was coming off awkward... "stilted" being the word. But Luka dropped a very flippant townread on them. My thought at the time was, well maybe Luka can be wrong. But as the game has unfolded Caitlin has also come to the defense of Leesbra strongly. I learn over time that this means Leesbra is probably town, particularly when one of the players shielding them is mafia.

    Michi > Jamie, during catch up Jamie made a few posts I quite thought were townie. I forget what they said exactly but their reads felt organic.

    Callahan I was perhaps wrong on. In that I defended them to Jay. But subsequent to this interaction they have not profiled as the same type of player in further interactions. Their Jay read developed into a quite oddball townread and outside of their flirtation with tunneling KOFM himself their play has been chaotic in a way that doesn't feel townie. Less pursuit of solutions and more pursuit of resolutions if you catch my meaning.

    Luka is an enigma. They remind me of one of my versions. It feels like they steamed into the game issuing takes to generate impressions but has had an emotion draining event occur and ergo has been unable to maintain. I leave alone for now. I think lightly townie to blatantly fall off.

    JJJ is town but not overwhelmingly so as yet. They seem progressive, which is good. And need continue to be. Heed my words that if at any stage I'm gone and Jay remains alive, his momentum must maintain or improve. Any falling off should be viewed with high scepticism. Any laziness. On merit his play has felt mostly genuine and his solving has been the most coherent and rational to me. And we must reward good behaviour!

    Serif's entry was quite nice. I felt some joy. There was no apprehension. A little bit of playfulness. I give them time.

    IceT is as described suspicious to me.

    Numbers, curious how I'm their top town but I largely believe I'm mind melding with their other solves.

    I feel that if Numbers, Jay, ExLight and myself were able to find each other. We may have a good outcome on this day and in this game. It feels like the towncore to me, but I am aware I perhaps haven't earned entry. :))
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  • that's why I TR Jimmy


    you might be right Jimmy could be Mafia but I'm TRing them for now and I think you're town for making this post lol

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    don't know if you guys still suspect each other don't think you are voting each other last time I checked, but I think you 2 are t/t. Luka is the scum here though.

    posting this now so y'all know I existed and so this doesn't get too long I read up to page 11

    I'm referring to this bit.
    Luke is the scum here though is a curious point I'd like them to elaborate on.
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    JaggedJimmyJay
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  • I'm fine with serif for the moment. Their posts are rather twee. That's a nice thing for posts to be.
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  • I believe we have about an hour left, so some kind of consolidation will be necessary. The current spread is very light, and it looks like three people haven't voted at all (with an additional two on unvote).

    Of the people currently with votes, Jamie is my preference. I could be sold on Icet if needed. What's most important is that we don't sit on a dead tally like this that would be ripe for manipulation by even a two-person mafia team. There's still time for dialogue on anyone else too, but folks are going to need to speak or hold their peace. Time is of the essence.
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    IcetFeelsPain
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  • idt town luka makes these reads that early on in the game

    Thanks. Here's a more general question to help me engage with this notion, since I don't have any background with Luka. Would you say it's unusual for Luka to make reads in general that early in the game, or is it those specific reads that strike you as off?
    unusual for Luka to make reads in general that early in the game

    why does the website have my IP
    Ah now this... this is a wolfy entrance.
    can you explain why?

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    IceT is suspicious of me for meta.

    How unfortunate.

    And ExLight sheeping.

    *sigh*

    Ah mafia, o great love o mine.

    Where to begin...

    IceT having me as their bottom read is perhaps reasonable from the vantage point of someone with one game of meta on me and none of it Bob meta. Yet...

    Jay who has hundreds of games of meta on Mac is not suspicious of me on meta.

    Cait who has a few games of meta on Mac is tentatively townreading me.

    Numbers appears to be the only one here with Bob meta and recognises this just Bob.

    ...

    So one must ponder whether IceT is simply being opportunistic in voting for a player they can produce a surface level comprehensible reason for suspecting.

    Outside of this I have found them to be the more suspicious of the list since entry. They made an archetypally nervous entry commenting on their IP address. Subsequent solving carried the hallmarks of the late entering mafia slot. A giant hodge podgy catch up post quote wall designed to look like a try hard town. Follow up machine gun townreads of varying quality quoting non AI posts loaded with TMI. Topping it off with a vote on the most Glorious.

    Now I'm usually not one for OMGUS. Perish that thought indeed, but I was suspicious of IceT before I even read their suspicion of me so I won't accept such accusations.

    As for ExLight well...

    I think they have had a side eye on me the whole game. Their gaze upon your Glorious has felt earnest in the sense that they are certainly genuinely trying to figure me out. I think their game has been townie and getting townier.

    On a separate subject our other recent entrant to the game has felt ... townie but not overwhelmingly so. Just more level and reserved in their take making. Something about this game gives me the impression the town are all relatively findable by looking for the people who are more pensive seeming. While the wolves are among those actually attempting to create a narrative. To fill the silence generated by a waitful town crew.
    are you SRing me for going against "consensus" that has you as town? I don't recall calling you scum, more that your playstyle is unusual. I actually like your reads on ExLight / Number / JJJ. I haven't read them quite yet but I've liked their posting from what I've seen.

    I'm reviewing Icet now. I'm mostly ambivalent, but there is one moment that catches my eye. Their reception of the argument between callahan and I was awkward.

    Referencing callahan's gripes with me as "why they town read Jay" is hard to understand. And they were a bit quick to dismiss the whole thing as town/town.
    I think you're town BC you're trying hard to solve the game. Calla was calling you scum iirc for "trying too hard in early game", which I thought was townie. I think Calla is town for that BC it's super brave for a wolf to call someone scum "for trying hard".

    that's why I TR Jimmy


    you might be right Jimmy could be Mafia but I'm TRing them for now and I think you're town for making this post lol

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    don't know if you guys still suspect each other don't think you are voting each other last time I checked, but I think you 2 are t/t. Luka is the scum here though.

    posting this now so y'all know I existed and so this doesn't get too long I read up to page 11

    I'm referring to this bit.
    Luke is the scum here though is a curious point I'd like them to elaborate on.
    Luka is scum for me due to their reads. It's unusual for town luka to making those reads that early on through D1. I just finished a hydra game with Luka where we were wolves together in the same slot and it sounds really familiar. I'm also just waiting for Luka's response to my posts atm
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    IcetFeelsPain
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  • personally I disagree with TRing Serif atm, pretty sure my POE points to them 
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    ExLight
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  • I haven't finished backreading everything yet but again JJJ / Calla are town for me due to the reasons stated.

    I haven't really made a read on ExLight / Numbers but I do remember really liking their posts and Bob's towncore sounds good enough for me to sheep it, which also leans Bob as town to me

    I remember liking Cait posting but don't remember why 


    This is ordered FYI
    Town
    JJJ
    Calla

    Town Lean
    Bob
    Exlight
    Numbers
    (ExLight and Numbers aren't ordered)

    Town Null
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    Jamie

    Scum Read
    Luka

    POE = Leesbra / Serif

    I can be convinced to vote Jamie I think? I remember really liking their 1 post
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  • Ex do you still think Bob is Mafia
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    Caitlinuwu
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  • I think I will retract my vote and suspicion on Leesbra for now.

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    But Leesbra didnt rlly do much more

    Back, btw
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    IcetFeelsPain
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  • wait nvm I do remember calling Bob scum I voted them lol I think they're town now
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