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Werewolf XXVII: A Golden Affair (Game Thread)
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  • I'm vibing with all of that, so I'm going to declare that Michi is town.
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  • well im making a point to vote all future days
    *He holds up a finger, indicating to wait a moment. Then he makes five stacks of cookies, two with 2 and three with 1 cookie each in them. He waves his hands presenting them as important but then sweeps them off the table sending cookies flying across the room. He replaces them with one stack of six. He slowly and deliberately creates a stack of seven cookies next to this six stack and points to it, nodding.* 
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  • well im making a point to vote all future days
    *He holds up a finger, indicating to wait a moment. Then he makes five stacks of cookies, two with 2 and three with 1 cookie each in them. He waves his hands presenting them as important but then sweeps them off the table sending cookies flying across the room. He replaces them with one stack of six. He slowly and deliberately creates a stack of seven cookies next to this six stack and points to it, nodding.*
    *Neon arrives back in the room and sees the cookies flying she runs and dives across the floor catching one single cookie before it falls to its doom*



    *takes a bite of the cookie and looks at numbers angrily for wasting cookies*
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  • *Picks a cookie up from the floor and eats it defiantly*
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  • *smiles at Numbers*

    Good no waste cookie.
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    "Neon is genuinely exhausting to read"
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    Imaginative Kane
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  • *Titans being a good role since, while possible, it's unlikely someone other than one of the Titans would use...and unless it's Raven (I think she's in the CW show? Not sure, I'm mainly going off of the Teen Titans crew), the chances of a Titan having any scum possibility is super low to none.

    or there's characters that, if they were chosen could alter the overall idea a bit either in a potential good way (Grimm if it's the MC's cop buddy or wolf friend who acted as a tracker) or bad way.

    Overall though there's very few I'm comfy with believing are valid, and many that I want to see how things develop before I can feel comfy saying they're more definite possibilities like the 4 current.
    I'm not familiar with Dr. Jekyl and the Rocky Horror Picture Show but I know Grimm well enough to say that the character from that show could easily be any alignment. The role would likely be either one of the main characters (some sort of tracker (the wolf Wesen) or investigator (the fox Wesen or main character's girlfriend (if taken from the first few seasons)) or cop (the main cop characters) (if good)); doctor that can also perpetrate delayed kills (the neutral Russian Rasputin expy Wesen who appeared in 1 episode (highly unlikely)) or vigilante (many many possibilities here including one of the recurring Grimms related to the protagonist) or role blocker (certain Wesen such as one of the hexenbiests or zauberbiests since they are recurring or more Wesen who only appeared in single episodes) or serial killer (so many possibilities here though most only appear in single episodes) these would be more likely as 3p; or they could be one of the royals or some other neutral Wesen (if evil).

    With Titans I agree that it seems more likely that their representative would be good since there has not been many villains in the three seasons of the show so far.


    *He holds up a finger, indicating to wait a moment. Then he makes five stacks of cookies, two with 2 and three with 1 cookie each in them. He waves his hands presenting them as important but then sweeps them off the table sending cookies flying across the room. He replaces them with one stack of six. He slowly and deliberately creates a stack of seven cookies next to this six stack and points to it, nodding.*
    Picks up a cookie, wipes it with a napkin from a table, then starts slowly eating it.
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    Let us not repeat the mistakes of history.

    Now tell me.  What do you see?
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  • You may call it in this evening
    But you've only lost the night
    Present all your pretty feelings
    May they comfort you tonight
    And I'm climbing over something
    And I'm running through these walls
    I don't even know if I believe
    I don't even know if I believe
    I don't even know if I believe
    Everything you're trying to say to me.

    The music stops as the feed cuts back from commercials. The host is standing there again, smiling, as he begins speaking.


    “Well, ladies and gentlemen, I hope you enjoyed those words from our sponsors. Now, we will begin…”


    The doors burst open and the host’s smile disappears, replaced by a look of surprise and confusion. A blonde man in a silvery, weird outfit stands there next to a woman dressed similarly to him. He’s holding some trident looking thing in his hands. The host’s confusion grows.


    “Is that…Riff Raff?”


    Riff Raff begins to sing.



    "Frank-N-Furter, it's all over
    Your mission is a failure
    Your lifestyle's too extreme
    I'm your new commander
    You now are my prisoner
    We return to Transylvania
    Prepare the transit beam!"


    One of the nominees, Dr Frank-N-Furter, stands up, looking dejected, and leaves with them. It looks like his time at the show is done.


    “...well then. I suppose Dr Frank-N-Furter won’t be joining us for the rest of the event. I guess his rose tinted world didn't keep him safe from his trouble and pain. That’s unfortunate, alas. In any case…”


    The doors burst open again. The host sighs in exasperation as two men in Starfleet uniforms, Picard and Riker, charge into the room. They spot one of the nominees and Picard points him out.

    “Q! I told you to leave humanity alone! Leave at once!”


    Q stands up, a look of annoyance on his face.


    “Oh really, Picard, must you spoil my fun? If you insist. I’ll just go mess with the Lower Decks, then.”


    With a click of his fingers, Q vanishes from the room. Riker and Picard, looking satisfied, leave the hall. The host furrows his brows and he looks around the room.


    “And there goes Q. We’re dropping like flies. Hopefully someone does something about that. Anyway, the show must go on! The voting for the next award category will carry on as planned. Please use the VOTES system and we will tabulate the vote that counts. Thank you and good luck!”


    Music begins to play as the feed cuts to commercials.



    One, two, three
    Not only you and me
    Got one eighty degrees
    And I'm caught in between
    Countin', one, two, three
    Peter, Paul and Mary
    Gettin' down with 3P
    Everybody loves, oh

    Dr Frank-N-Furter (NoName), the Town Escort, was killed in the night by a Killer.
    Q (Aersoldorf), the Town Transporter, was killed in the night by the Wolf Chief.


    Night 1 has ended. Day 2 has begun. It will end at 2200 (UTC+8 ) 9th June. Good luck.
    I Hope You Have A Nice Day :]
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  • *stands and claps at the riveting performance*

    Fantastic just fantastic two killers I can't imagine that will turn out poorly at all

    *sips tea*
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    Melehan
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  • I was right about Frank-N-Furter being The Rocky Horror Picture Show character, but he was town. That means we can't use the characters' canon alignments to predict their in-game alignments.

    I was also right about Q. Awesome.

    And 3p killer is confirmed, but considering Frank-N-Furter's alignment, I'm not so sure we can conclude that it's Jekyll/Hyde.

    Meanwhile the phrasing Wolf Chief makes me think House of Cards for some reason, but flavor solving is not an option this game, I think.
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    Svipjoth
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  • OOC: My apologies for not meeting the minimum posts… as I may have already mentioned, I moved to a new location for my summer internship, and pretty much all of my energy has gone into moving in and getting settled down. This won’t happen again. I’m sorry everyone…

    IC: As if the poor man wasn’t anxious enough, he stared down at the deceased party members absolutely shaken to the core. He turned to the other guests, solemnly taking a cookie just to distract himself if for a moment.

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    Michi
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  • I had to do some digging on MU's role list to figure out what some of the roles were, but apparently a Transporter is another usually used term for the Bus Driver, which basically chooses two players and redirects any actions from the first to be targeted to the second.

    Likewise, the Escort is a commonly used alias for the Jailkeeper, which for those new to the game is a role that will basically protect a targeted player for the night...but it will also cause any actions caused by the protected player to fail.

    I must say I'm somewhat surprised Frank-n-Furter was a good alignment, but I'm hardly surprised by the choice of role given that the whole plot of RHPS was a couple being trapped for a night due to a raging storm.

    Likewise Q being a redirecting role obviously makes complete sense, and nice to see that the guess on him being good was correct.

    Also good to see that the assumption of an obvious 3P character was correct, bad to see that they're definitely a killer that could easily help out Scum if they chose.  I still think it could be Jeckyll/Hyde, but I can see why Mel would have some pause given the FNF good reveal.

    Wolf Chief can have a few meanings in this and could hint at someone from Grimm as well, and I both agree and disagree on disvowing the idea of flavor solving.  I think if we're looking in the right areas, flavor solving could be a pretty key area in figuring things out.  Problem is, we could be spending too much valuable time trying to even figure out what those areas even are and getting them wrong before getting them right...so I definitely agree that it's not worth it since it's obvious they're a bit beyond any surface level guesses.

    That being said, now it's time to look at 2 things here:

    >Any relevant info from D1
    >The fact that both NoName and Aerso, 2 well experienced players, were killed...which rules out the possibility that we're dealing with any of the newer players as the Killer, and that at least one of the bad guy team is also a well experienced player.
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  • What does the Wolf Chief role do? Does that mean they're invincible until all the other wolves are killed? 

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  • First thing I want to look at is Kane specifically.  D1, he posted:


    Hello, some of you seem familiar while many do not.??? Do not cross me though if you don't want to get burned.

    Along with a second post with an unbroken link to specifically a gif of Starfire from Titans.  For some this may come off as a harmless jab, but Kane is not a new player, and this could very easily be a role claim on his part saying that he's Starfire from Titans.  Given that this hasn't proven fruitful thus far on alignment guessing since one obvious was proven wrong, I'm not going to hold my breath as much on assuming on this one given that Starfire was a Titan, yes, but also:
    *Had amnesia for a good part of the show
    *Had the sole mission of killing Raven before said amnesia hit
    *Had no issues with the idea of killing Batman in Trigon's false reality, purposely showing up late to a raid at Wayne Manor and almost killed him before being frozen to death by a shot by a cold gun.

    Also adding that it could be a deception and Kane is actually Blackfire, who was jealous of Starfire and the love that people had for her (and had the tendency to be homicidal).

    So the fact that he specifically chose to suggest he's Starfire is giving me some pause.  The fact that he then posted a gif of Monroe from Grimm is also interesting not because it came off as another potential soft claim, but because it was following the line "Now let's hunt these mysterious wolves" which to me suggests he was using the GIF in that sense, even though Monroe was 100% a good guy in the show and is probably the last person we would be hunting.

    Next, I'll turn to Abbi, who posted this first bit in D1:


    Hello ladies and gentleman. 30 posts my god I'm screwed... I'm a changed girl I post 3000 times a day now. I blame champs.

    Anyways. How do you do my fellow Americans actors?

    Abbi, admittedly, is usually harder to peg since she likes to do chaotic claims throughout the game.  Although the fact that she's starting things off this way catches my interest a bit.  The fact that she's oddly also thrown off using character suggestive GIFs and stuck mainly to maybe the occasional anime one or unrelated...which for me is a weird vibe.  The cookie thing I will say is something I could see Abbi doing in a townie type of mindset, as is the "We must kill someone every day" mindset (even if personally that's not my vibe), but I'm not hard clearing anything yet.

    Also, I don't like the fact that KoD is hard clearing her this early.  This could be a townie buddy matchup and he's clearing her due to mechanics or an auto-clear because of meta knowledge, but this could also be a scum partnership and he could be attempting to give her a false-clear.

    Outside his early clear of Abbi which throws me off a bit, KoD is acting pretty much as I've seen him act in games, but like Abbi I'm interested to see what continues to develop since I don't feel entirely comfy just yet leaning one way or the other.

    Jos, Corbin, and Svip I'm just going to go ahead and auto-clear right now from being the Killer and possibly Wolf Chief. For one, because I'm like 99.5% sure Svip wouldn't know to go after NoName since this is Svip's first time playing, and the same goes for Aerso (although depending on the role and amount of bad guys, I'm less sure on this since a more experienced player could have suggested it if they share the chat).  For Jos and Corbin, it's also the same mounted with the fact that I'm also even more sure they probably don't entirely know how the game works, given how little they've talked so far (and it's likely Jos will be removed if they don't hit the post requirement this phase).

    That all being said though, I'm only clearing them of being those two roles, not of being scum entirely since one or more of them could easily still be on the squad (but if we're in a game with only 1 scum and multiple bad 3Ps, then I'll definitely auto-clear them entirely).

    Mel, I'm pretty much vibing on a town lean with her.  Her behaviors so far have been very on par from what I've normally seen with a townie Mel, though I'll always err on the side of caution given she's also a heavily experienced player.  But for now, she's my only real townie lean.

    Dolby, I'm still not sure yet, and like Gerrick he's one I'm going to need to see a bit more on before I can have any real strong opinions.


    What does the Wolf Chief role do? Does that mean they're invincible until all the other wolves are killed?
    As much as I'd be surprised otherwise, I doubt it'd be an invincible-until-dead role in a small setup like this.  If anything, given that the faction kill was specifically by the Wolf Chief, my first assumption was that they're the leader that makes the kills...possibly even being the one who makes the decision while any others in the group just give out ideas.

    Unfortunately, all we can do is guess since none of the role abilities are public knowledge by our hosts, and the role itself didn't turn up anything on Mafia Universe.  Google turns up the Vigilante role as the first search result, but mainly because "wolf" is an obvious common word that was used in a lot of topics that the Vig role was mentioned in.
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  • Meant to say I doubt the Wolf chief is an Invincible until all wolves are dead role" but also wouldn't be surprised to be proven wrong.
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  • Quick notes as I catch up from page 5:

    Kane's post is townie. I will no longer suspect him for the remainder of the game because, given this isn't Champs, the effort that went into his post, as it is structured and the content, comes from a genuine place that a townie would make as opposed to scum.

    So yeah.



    In other notes, Michi is scum and I want his head plastered all around for us to cheer at. Give him an award or something because he's about to be the quickest scum caught in recent memory for me.

    Vote: Michi

    Why you ask? Because Michi's post is fluff content. Speculating game content, with respect to the roles and names mentioned thus far, does absolutely nothing while giving the appearance of actively talking/being helpful in some fashion. Not in a "pockety" fashion mind you (Neon would know all about pocketing here), but just in a, "Hey, I'm here offering some perspective," way.

    Think about it. We have a low content generating game. Scum will want to have something to talk about as opposed to just sitting around lurking and offering nothing (not saying he's scum yet, but an example would be Gerrick having not been around though that may be unintentional on his part). So for Michi to come in and drum up a "content" post pertaining to speculating on something that doesn't actually advance the progress of the thread for us in terms of solving (solving people that is), it can only look like *trying* to participate with something as opposed to nothing.

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