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Kinda weirded out by Dolby's immediate unvote when I retracted, but no follow-up analysis of anything that happened afterwards.

eh i was kinda just busy

TGN - Town
Vroendal - Null
Eastern New England - Town
Anubhav Ghosh - Town
Red Mones - Townie
Dolby - Townie
Neon Abigail - Town
Cozmikrae - Town
Aersoldorf - Town
KingofDominaria - Null
Gerrick - Null
Wintermoot - Null
NoName - Townie
Captan_lunch - Scummy
Moondrop - Null
ExLight - Null

For all intents and purposes, if you're null or below, you're PoE. Start becoming readable. Do things.

Lau can you talk to me about Turtle, Red, NoName, CL, and maybe Aers as well but that's mainly bc I still feel mixed about Aers

TGN - Town
Vroendal - Null
Eastern New England - Town
Anubhav Ghosh - Town
Red Mones - Townie
Dolby - Townie
Neon Abigail - Town
Cozmikrae - Town
Aersoldorf - Town
KingofDominaria - Null
Gerrick - Null
Wintermoot - Null
NoName - Townie
Captan_lunch - Scummy
Moondrop - Null
ExLight - Null

For all intents and purposes, if you're null or below, you're PoE. Start becoming readable. Do things.

Lau can you talk to me about Turtle, Red, NoName, CL, and maybe Aers as well but that's mainly bc I still feel mixed about Aers

I don't particularly like this style of questioning from you, tbh. I have explained my reads on Turtle in connection to the fake-claim and analysis, same with Red, No Name is residual good vibes from the ice cream thing, I've explained my scumlean on Captan, and I have also commented on Aer frequently. This feels like the type of stuff you pulled to fill silence and look like you're solving back in SH. If you want more, dissect the posts where I have done so, tell me what you make of them, not this "talk to me about so and so" business. I have in fact talked way less about my good feelings for Anu than some of the others you mentioned here. I want that Dolby solve.

hoo boy, 30 pages of sifting to tally up the totals so far.  Here's the current votes:

Laurentus: Vote Dolby – Change to Vroendal
Dolby: Vote Laurentus – Change to ExLight –Change to Gerrick –Unvote
Exlight: Vote Neon Abigail –Change to Gerrick
TGN: Vote ExLight – Unvote
Neon Abigail: Vote Eat Pie – Change to Gerrick –Change to Captan Lunch (Voted in pink)
Gerrick: Vote Anubhav Ghosh (Voted in red)
Aersoldorf: Vote Gerrick –Unvote
Anubhav Ghosh: Vote Gerrick (voted in red) –Change to No Lynch
Eastern New England: Vote Gerrick (Voted in green and black)
Captan Lunch: Vote Neon Abigail
KingofDominaria: Vote Gerrick (Voted in pink)–Unvote
Cozmikrae: Vote Captan Lunch

Vroendal: 1
Gerrick: 2
Captan Lunch: 2
Anubhav Ghosh: 1
Neon Abigail: 1
No lynch: 1
Rescinded votes: 4 ( Dolby, TGN, Aersoldorf, KingofDominaria)

Hasn’t voted yet: Wintermoot, Red Mones, NoName, Moondrop, Vroendal

If I missed any, let me know.

We aren't no lynching. We're saving that for potential MYLO

Ok went back over the whole thread to see if I could pull a better read list. These are mostly gut reactions.

Dolby - town
Neon - feels honest
Lau - pinging people for answers. Seems normal for Lau?
TGN - feels like normal town play from TGN to me.
Vro - townleaning for no good reason, just gut reaction.
Red - nothing at all
ENE - nothing at all, completely neutral.
Gerrick - also a lot of no feelings.
Ex - being chaotic, then disappeared.
NoName - sussy, but also weird mystery thing going on. Probably nothing or maybe something?
KOD - idk... gut level sus. Possibly just biased from last game.

Something that I liked on read through is the lack of consistency in the Neon read. Like, Coz went from mentioning Neon in a sus light to putting her maybe second top town here. think scum would want consistency and more justificaiton than "feels honest" if changing up the read.


Still at uh Aers slinging out 4 names maybe not good but even with Laurentus lying he was really townie. If what he's said is accurate about himself, I'll make a read on what i expect from him as mafia here and that's for him to semi-freeze and not accuse CL of being Gerrick's partner and giving every indications of beleiving Laurentus's claim

Neon has an absurdly high fluff to content ratio

KoD is a sleeper for stuff that isn't game related tbh

Tbh TGN being so clueless I might just derpclear this seems like the type of environment that somebody might think to do this but idk the man was so blind to it that I kinda think that it's to over the top to be fake and he's had some townie posts anyway

Just caught up. I'll need to reread to make a proper scum list. For now my vote is going on Neon Abagail

VOTE: NEON ABAGAIL

I guess this can be a hit but Idk I don't feel that this is super AI outside that him just not acknowleding the inspect is weird. Probably didn't fully realize what was going on as either alignment

Just caught up. I'll need to reread to make a proper scum list. For now my vote is going on Neon Abagail

VOTE: NEON ABAGAIL

how far up have you read?

Far enough to try saving Gerrick it would seem... 

This is pretty town, what I referenced earlier. Like, just don't see the archetype that I feel Aers falls into doing this as w

Noooo Lau, you should have waited a bit longer!!

Well, now that it's revealed I can say that I could tell from the beginning. Lau does this kind of stuff all the time. I chose not to respond to it because I didn't believe it, my reaction would have been scewed.

I haven't had the time in the past 12 hours to analyze reactions yet, but I'll come out with my own list when I can.

towny

And on that note I suppose

Unvote: Pie

Vote: Gerrick

You overlook Lau saying he lied now?

Logically it doesn't even matter. Gerrick could still be scum. Lolz

CL going after Gerrick after the red check is revealed to be fake is super lolworthy. Also that a Gerrick v/ CL w world makes sense and he was worried about following a fake cop maybe

@Everyone
If town is going to unvote garrick, who are we going to vote? The play is not making a whole lot of sense yet. How is Literally Satan, Laurentus, going get his reads without the flip?

See I don't like this. Why are you looking for wagon to jump onto?

What do mean. I just got here and tomarrow is deadline. You guys are going to pressure garrick then back off at the last minute and be completely fucking aimless? Cause that's what it looks like.

tbh this isn't the worst reaction

Fuck it thread is dead and I've done enough lying low is posting way to much but mostly just gifs and subtle things that might or might not matter lying low? I guess not but anyways

Vote: Captan Lunch

I don't trust. Now I do have a history of voting tit for tat on day 1 anyways,  and maybe that is part of it, but what concerns me mainly is...how do I say this? Voting for me on first impression? I could see that. I think ignoring what everyone has noted about my play style and relying solely on your interpretation of how I play versus your feeling of what Werewolf is might be a bit shortsighted especially since at most we played together one time I think. You don't even know me or how I play the game or why I do what I do. But what concerns me the most is the absolute lack of any reasoning other than it being a "gut" feeling about me. And what concerns me more is that inspite of your attempts to blame town for pulling the brakes on a Gerrick lynch they you yourself have never even been willing to jump on yourself and further pushing the issue while never moving off me or giving any reads list or reasons for why. Pulling the brakes on a lynch based on false information seems totally logical but slamming the foot on the gas to lynch someone because someone made a false claim about them when they were never on anyone's radar prior seems pretty fucking sus.

And lastly I don't think we should disregard the information about you lurking as scum previously in games considering how long it took you to contribute and your aggressive approach with little to no reasoning since you appeared

This is just an incredibly townie post and I feel that neon believes in it. Also feels like Neon has been fighting the urge to OMGUS and just went for it in a believiable way






I think that's a really weird PoV, like, if you're voting him it changes your behavior when in either case it's the same information you have. And you're just going to keep pushing on him? Like yeah, neither is confirmed town but, just, no reason to not push elsewhere if you feel like it

I'm not voting Laurentus today though frankly I think most of what he's done is fakeable

TGN, Neon, Cov, Aers, all towny enough that I feel a highish degree of confidence

I'm not voting Laurentus today though frankly I think most of what he's done is fakeable

TGN, Neon, Cov, Aers, all towny enough that I feel a highish degree of confidence

I love how absolutely everyone in this game is like "would Lau do this as scum? Yeah, probably." I'm surprised to see it from you, though, as I tend to be way less big on this type of stuff in the games you've seen me scum in.

We aren't no lynching. We're saving that for potential MYLO

Ok went back over the whole thread to see if I could pull a better read list. These are mostly gut reactions.

Dolby - town
Neon - feels honest
Lau - pinging people for answers. Seems normal for Lau?
TGN - feels like normal town play from TGN to me.
Vro - townleaning for no good reason, just gut reaction.
Red - nothing at all
ENE - nothing at all, completely neutral.
Gerrick - also a lot of no feelings.
Ex - being chaotic, then disappeared.
NoName - sussy, but also weird mystery thing going on. Probably nothing or maybe something?
KOD - idk... gut level sus. Possibly just biased from last game.

Something that I liked on read through is the lack of consistency in the Neon read. Like, Coz went from mentioning Neon in a sus light to putting her maybe second top town here. think scum would want consistency and more justificaiton than "feels honest" if changing up the read.


Still at uh Aers slinging out 4 names maybe not good but even with Laurentus lying he was really townie. If what he's said is accurate about himself, I'll make a read on what i expect from him as mafia here and that's for him to semi-freeze and not accuse CL of being Gerrick's partner and giving every indications of beleiving Laurentus's claim

Neon has an absurdly high fluff to content ratio

KoD is a sleeper for stuff that isn't game related tbh

Tbh TGN being so clueless I might just derpclear this seems like the type of environment that somebody might think to do this but idk the man was so blind to it that I kinda think that it's to over the top to be fake and he's had some townie posts anyway

Just caught up. I'll need to reread to make a proper scum list. For now my vote is going on Neon Abagail

VOTE: NEON ABAGAIL

I guess this can be a hit but Idk I don't feel that this is super AI outside that him just not acknowleding the inspect is weird. Probably didn't fully realize what was going on as either alignment

Just caught up. I'll need to reread to make a proper scum list. For now my vote is going on Neon Abagail

VOTE: NEON ABAGAIL

how far up have you read?

Far enough to try saving Gerrick it would seem...

This is pretty town, what I referenced earlier. Like, just don't see the archetype that I feel Aers falls into doing this as w

Noooo Lau, you should have waited a bit longer!!

Well, now that it's revealed I can say that I could tell from the beginning. Lau does this kind of stuff all the time. I chose not to respond to it because I didn't believe it, my reaction would have been scewed.

I haven't had the time in the past 12 hours to analyze reactions yet, but I'll come out with my own list when I can.

towny

And on that note I suppose

Unvote: Pie

Vote: Gerrick

You overlook Lau saying he lied now?

Logically it doesn't even matter. Gerrick could still be scum. Lolz

CL going after Gerrick after the red check is revealed to be fake is super lolworthy. Also that a Gerrick v/ CL w world makes sense and he was worried about following a fake cop maybe

@Everyone
If town is going to unvote garrick, who are we going to vote? The play is not making a whole lot of sense yet. How is Literally Satan, Laurentus, going get his reads without the flip?

See I don't like this. Why are you looking for wagon to jump onto?

What do mean. I just got here and tomarrow is deadline. You guys are going to pressure garrick then back off at the last minute and be completely fucking aimless? Cause that's what it looks like.

tbh this isn't the worst reaction

Fuck it thread is dead and I've done enough lying low is posting way to much but mostly just gifs and subtle things that might or might not matter lying low? I guess not but anyways

Vote: Captan Lunch

I don't trust. Now I do have a history of voting tit for tat on day 1 anyways,  and maybe that is part of it, but what concerns me mainly is...how do I say this? Voting for me on first impression? I could see that. I think ignoring what everyone has noted about my play style and relying solely on your interpretation of how I play versus your feeling of what Werewolf is might be a bit shortsighted especially since at most we played together one time I think. You don't even know me or how I play the game or why I do what I do. But what concerns me the most is the absolute lack of any reasoning other than it being a "gut" feeling about me. And what concerns me more is that inspite of your attempts to blame town for pulling the brakes on a Gerrick lynch they you yourself have never even been willing to jump on yourself and further pushing the issue while never moving off me or giving any reads list or reasons for why. Pulling the brakes on a lynch based on false information seems totally logical but slamming the foot on the gas to lynch someone because someone made a false claim about them when they were never on anyone's radar prior seems pretty fucking sus.

And lastly I don't think we should disregard the information about you lurking as scum previously in games considering how long it took you to contribute and your aggressive approach with little to no reasoning since you appeared

This is just an incredibly townie post and I feel that neon believes in it. Also feels like Neon has been fighting the urge to OMGUS and just went for it in a believiable way






I think that's a really weird PoV, like, if you're voting him it changes your behavior when in either case it's the same information you have. And you're just going to keep pushing on him? Like yeah, neither is confirmed town but, just, no reason to not push elsewhere if you feel like it

What happened here at the bottom? It looks like you're referencing something that got cut off.

I tried to cite part of a quote from CL but it didn't work for some reason

Also, Dolby, define the things I've done that don't look fakeable. Clearly you have a few of those if you're saying "most" of what I've done is fakeable.

I tried to cite part of a quote from CL but it didn't work for some reason

Okay, well, try again.

I'm not voting Laurentus today though frankly I think most of what he's done is fakeable

TGN, Neon, Cov, Aers, all towny enough that I feel a highish degree of confidence

I love how absolutely everyone in this game is like "would Lau do this as scum? Yeah, probably." I'm surprised to see it from you, though, as I tend to be way less big on this type of stuff in the games you've seen me scum in.

Tbh thinking back to the hydra game (game 5, the one where I had the really "Lau can't be scum" read), MM2, your champs game you kinda have a certain style that I don't think matches up to here

Though it's mainly that you probably aren't bussing a teammate, though yeah I feel that I've only seen you fakeclaiming as town thinking about it

I tried to cite part of a quote from CL but it didn't work for some reason

Did you try turning on your surround sound settings?

I'm surprised it took me this long to make that joke.

Also, Dolby, define the things I've done that don't look fakeable. Clearly you have a few of those if you're saying "most" of what I've done is fakeable.

Actually reading the org game and some of the discussion about how me, Vro, and Panda knew your meta felt to one the nose and conscious that it made me think that you'd psyche yourself out of a fake claim

Fuck it thread is dead and I've done enough lying low is posting way to much but mostly just gifs and subtle things that might or might not matter lying low? I guess not but anyways

Vote: Captan Lunch

I don't trust. Now I do have a history of voting tit for tat on day 1 anyways,  and maybe that is part of it, but what concerns me mainly is...how do I say this? Voting for me on first impression? I could see that. I think ignoring what everyone has noted about my play style and relying solely on your interpretation of how I play versus your feeling of what Werewolf is might be a bit shortsighted especially since at most we played together one time I think. You don't even know me or how I play the game or why I do what I do. But what concerns me the most is the absolute lack of any reasoning other than it being a "gut" feeling about me. And what concerns me more is that inspite of your attempts to blame town for pulling the brakes on a Gerrick lynch they you yourself have never even been willing to jump on yourself and further pushing the issue while never moving off me or giving any reads list or reasons for why. Pulling the brakes on a lynch based on false information seems totally logical but slamming the foot on the gas to lynch someone because someone made a false claim about them when they were never on anyone's radar prior seems pretty fucking sus.

And lastly I don't think we should disregard the information about you lurking as scum previously in games considering how long it took you to contribute and your aggressive approach with little to no reasoning since you appeared

Your just omgusing me. Thats all this is. You contradict yourself. You say, "Voting for me on first impression? I could see that." Ok, but then later say" But what concerns me the most is the absolute lack of any reasoning other than it being a "gut" feeling about me." I said it was a "first impression", which you said you could see. Then you turn around phrase it as a "gut feeling" which you are not ok with?  Not only is that a bit contradictory, but your twisting my words.

About the Garrick lynch, which concerns you even more than what concerns you most.

Yes, I am willing to jump on the Garrick lynch, you say I never been willing to jump on, but it wasn't a matter of being willing, I wasn't here. But, If I was voting for him, I'd say it was premature for town to back off based on one post of Laurentus saying he lied. We'd still need to push for more information, it does not automatically mean either of them is town.

And about KoD's information, he likes to stir up trouble. What he said is not accurate, and he knows I'd be the one few able to catch him in his lies.

Bolded part of this. Like, why would your vote at the time be the determining factor and if you did feel that way why aren't you pushing in Lau/Gerrick now? And the entire reason to vote Gerrick unless you have an independent sus on him is removed. It's a weird take and a weird way to play and it's just  to me