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I'm gonna refrain from posting an action this turn. I haven't really been I paying attention to the meta conversation going on until just now, and I assume I've been playing wrong for a bit now. I disappeared during the game awhile ago, and I'm guessing when I came back that I forgot a rule or two. For some reason I thought moves took place before actions rather than the opposite. So what's the correct process for posting apprentice moves, apprentice actions, and tower actions? 

I thought actions took place in the exact order they were listed (i.e. Tower teleport, Apprentice collect, cast, Tower return, Apprentice collect would happen in that order) with each player moving separately in their respective order.

I think at this point the best thing to do is to proceed as we have, ie all attacks will go first, then non-attack abilities and moves together. I don't think it's had a measurable impact on the game since nobody has launched an attack, and it doesn't make sense to change course now.

We'll revisit this mechanic after the game is over.

Action Log

Action Log

@taulover
Tonwar moves north to 24,7, revealing a barren tile.
Hiloc moves north to 6,22, revealing a Tome of Heal.
Hiloc collects the Tome of Heal.
Chroom moves east to 7,3, revealing a Bloodtouched Emblem (+4).
Chroom collects the Bloodtouched Emblem (+4).
You cast Shinedown at 23,7, revealing a Common Blue Basilisk Fragment.

@Imaginative Kane
You teleport Orca to your tower.
You teleport Orca to 5,24, which has already been explored.
Orca collects the Scroll of Fireball.
Orca moves east to 6,24, revealing a barren tile.
Wisent moves west to 3,24, revealing a barren tile.
Zaen constructs a portion of Living Quarters (27/30 portions complete).

NPC Moves
The Banished moves west to 13,23, which has already been explored.

No new apprentices arrived this turn.

Player Stats

Player Stats

Red Mones

@Red Mones
Action Points (AP): 1
Inventory: None
Tower: Academy(Lvl 0), Library(Lvl 1), Gym(Lvl 0), Living Quarters(Lvl 1), Mana Pool(Lvl 1), Tower Walls(Lvl 0)
Can: Cast Shinedown (Explores the tile on the grid that you specify, Cost 1AP)

Apprentices

Heron at Your Tower
Health: 29/29 | Mana: 32/32 | Movement: 1 | Sorcery: 12 | Clerical: 5 | Summoning: 4
Spells: No Learned Spells
Inventory: None
Can: Teleport to a Tile (Cost 1AP), Build Tower Component, Make Mana Potion, Collect Items
Sekim at Your Tower
Health: 25/25 | Mana: 32/32 | Movement: 1 | Sorcery: 9 | Clerical: 7 | Summoning: 6
Spells: No Learned Spells
Inventory: None
Can: Teleport to a Tile (Cost 1AP), Build Tower Component, Make Mana Potion, Collect Items
Timiz at Your Tower
Health: 30/30 | Mana: 28/28 | Movement: 1 | Sorcery: 9 | Clerical: 5 | Summoning: 11
Spells: No Learned Spells
Inventory: None
Can: Teleport to a Tile (Cost 1AP), Build Tower Component, Make Mana Potion, Collect Items

Gerrick

@Gerrick
Action Points (AP): 3
Inventory: Shrine Plans
Tower: Academy(Lvl 0), Library(Lvl 1), Gym(Lvl 0), Living Quarters(Lvl 1), Mana Pool(Lvl 2 - 0/40 portions constructed), Tower Walls(Lvl 0), Shrine(Lvl 0 - 2/10 portions constructed)
Can: Cast Shinedown (Explores the tile on the grid that you specify, Cost 1AP)

Apprentices

Tasold at 17,10
Health: 26/26 | Mana: 43/43 | Movement: 1 | Sorcery: 8 | Clerical: 11 | Summoning: 12
Spells: Summon Scorpion
Inventory: Scrying Stone 8/4/1, Mana Potion, Elemental Rod (-2 Magical Damage), Scroll of Fireball, Common Blue Basilisk Fragment, Mana Charm (+7MP), Mana Charm (+7), Scroll of Fireball, Scroll of Heal
Can: Teleport to Your Tower (Cost 1AP), Move North/South/East/West, Use Mana Potion, Use Scroll of Fireball, Use Scroll of Heal, Cast Summon Scorpion

Minions

Scorpion at 18,11
Health: 14/15 | Movement: 1 | Damage: 6 | Turns Remaining: 4
Can: Teleport to Your Tower (Cost 1AP), Move North/South/East/West, Melee Attack (Any Adjacent Tile)

Imaginative Kane

@Imaginative Kane
Action Points (AP): 2
Inventory: Scroll of Heal, Scroll of Heal, Scroll of Sanctuary, Scroll of Heal, Self-Building Construct, Scroll of Heal
Tower: Academy(Lvl 0), Library(Lvl 1), Gym(Lvl 0), Living Quarters(Lvl 1 - 27/30 portions constructed), Mana Pool(Lvl 2 - 0/40 portions constructed), Tower Walls(Lvl 1 - 0/7 portions constructed), Transcribe: Freezing Touch(Lvl 0 - 1/10 portions constructed), Transcribe: Spark(Lvl 0 - 1/10 portions constructed)
Can: Cast Shinedown (Explores the tile on the grid that you specify, Cost 1AP)

Apprentices

Zaen at Your Tower
Health: 27/27 | Mana: 28/28 | Movement: 1 | Sorcery: 12 | Clerical: 5 | Summoning: 10
Spells: Fireball
Inventory: Elemental Rod (-1 Magical Damage)
Can: Teleport to a Tile (Cost 1AP), Build Tower Component, Make Mana Potion, Collect Items, Cast Fireball North/South/East/West
Wisent at 3,24
Health: 37/37 | Mana: 40/40 | Movement: 1 | Sorcery: 7 | Clerical: 12 | Summoning: 5
Spells: Fireball
Inventory: Vitality Charm (+7HP), Elemental Rod (-2 Magical Damage), Mana Charm (+6), Scroll of Heal, Self-Building Construct
Can: Teleport to Your Tower (Cost 1AP), Move North/South/East/West, Use Scroll of Heal, Cast Fireball North/South/East/West
Orca at 6,24
Health: 25/25 | Mana: 32/32 | Movement: 1 | Sorcery: 4 | Clerical: 8 | Summoning: 7
Spells: Fireball
Inventory: Elemental Rod (-3 Magical Damage), Scroll of Fireball
Can: Teleport to Your Tower (Cost 1AP), Move North/South/East/West, Use Scroll of Fireball, Cast Fireball North/South/East/West

taulover

@taulover
Action Points (AP): 1
Inventory: Graveyard Plans, Rage Revenant Essence, Vitality Charm (+7HP)
Tower: Academy(Lvl 0), Library(Lvl 1 - 2/10 portions constructed), Gym(Lvl 0), Living Quarters(Lvl 1), Mana Pool(Lvl 1), Tower Walls(Lvl 0)
Can: Cast Shinedown (Explores the tile on the grid that you specify, Cost 1AP)

Apprentices

Chroom at 7,3
Health: 32/32 | Mana: 26/26 | Movement: 1 | Sorcery: 12 | Clerical: 15 | Summoning: 17
Spells: Fireball, Summon Mana-Rune, Summon Briar Wall
Inventory: Vitality Charm (+7HP), Mana Potion, Elemental Rod (-3 Magical Damage), Self-Building Construct, Rage Ravenant Essence, Scroll of Heal, Scroll of Summon Scorpion, Font of Knowledge, Rare Blue Basilisk Fragments, Tome of Mana-Rune, Tome of Beating Essence, Tome of Summon Scorpion, Tome of Fireball, Bloodtouched Emblem (+4)
Can: Teleport to Your Tower (Cost 1AP), Move North/South/East/West, Use Mana Potion, Use Scroll of Heal, Use Scroll of Summon Scorpion, Cast Fireball North/South/East/West, Cast Summon Mana-Rune, Cast Summon Briar Wall
Tonwar at 24,7
Health: 27/27 | Mana: 32/32 | Movement: 1 | Sorcery: 4 | Clerical: 9 | Summoning: 7
Spells: Fireball, Summon Mana-Rune, Summon Briar Wall
Inventory: Elemental Rod (-2 Magical Damage), Rare Blue Basilisk Fragments, Elemental Rod (-2 Magical Damage), Elemental Rod (-3 Magical Damage), Rare Blue Basilisk Fragment
Can: Teleport to Your Tower (Cost 1AP), Move North/South/East/West, Cast Fireball North/South/East/West, Cast Summon Mana-Rune, Cast Summon Briar Wall
Hiloc at 6,22
Health: 25/25 | Mana: 28/28 | Movement: 1 | Sorcery: 11 | Clerical: 8 | Summoning: 10
Spells: Fireball, Summon Mana-Rune, Summon Briar Wall
Inventory: Elemental Rod (-1 Magical Damage), Common Blue Basilisk Fragment, Tome of Blink, Algamic Cross (+5), Scroll of Heal, Tome of Heal
Can: Teleport to Your Tower (Cost 1AP), Move North/South/East/West, Use Scroll of Heal, Place Tome in Your Library, Cast Fireball North/South/East/West, Cast Summon Mana-Rune, Cast Summon Briar Wall

Round 43 Ends Saturday, March 12th or once all active players have moved.

Tower: Teleport Zaen to 7,22; Return Wisent to Tower.
Zaen: Collect anything, Move North, and Collect anything.
Orca: Cast Fireball North, Move South, and Collect anything.
Wisent: Deposit Scroll of Heal, and Self Building Construct; Construct Living Quarters.

Turn 4:

Tonwar: Move west

Tonwar: Collect (if possible)

Hiloc: Move north

Hiloc: Collect (if possible)

Hiloc: Cast fireball south

Chroom: Move east

Chroom: Collect (if possible)

Tower: Teleport Hiloc to tower

Tower: Teleport Zaen to 7,22; Return Wisent to Tower.
Zaen: Collect anything, Cast Fireball West, Move North, and Collect anything.

If all attacks happen before all moves, then what does this even mean? Zaen is currently at tower and so the attack would come from the tower.

Is Mana Rune AoE on the diagonals also, ie 9 adjacent tiles or just the 5 adjacent tiles? @Wintermoot

This may affect my choice of action.

Round 43
Scorpion move to 18,12
Teleport Tasold to tower
Tasold upgrade shrine plans
Tasold deposit scroll of heal
Teleport Tasold to 18,11
Tasold collect item
Tasold move to 19,11 and collect if possible
Cast shinedown at 19,12

So this is all still acceptable?

Since there are so many questions, I will be extending the round for a day in case anyone wants to change their moves.

@Imaginative Kane: @taulover is right...since attacks are done first, launching a Fireball would come from your tower, which I don't think is what you wanted.

@taulover: The AoE is for all 9 surrounding tiles.

@Gerrick: Your move list doesn't include any attacks, so it would proceed in the order that you listed them.

Turn 4:

Tonwar: Move west

Tonwar: Collect (if possible)

Hiloc: Move north

Hiloc: Collect (if possible)

Hiloc: Cast Summon Mana-Rune

Chroom: Move east

Chroom: Collect (if possible)

Tower: Teleport Hiloc to tower

@taulover: You didn't indicate which tile you wanted to summon the rune on. You can summon it on any adjacent tile, but as I said before the AoE effect will apply to all 9 tiles surrounding the rune.

@taulover: You didn't indicate which tile you wanted to summon the rune on. You can summon it on any adjacent tile, but as I said before the AoE effect will apply to all 9 tiles surrounding the rune.

How far away from my apprentice can I summon the rune? And the rules say that it will affect other friendly units; does this include the unit that summoned it, or just other friendly units?

I had interpreted it as being only summonable on the same tile as the unit, and said unit being immune as a result, but it seems that that is not your interpretation.

@taulover: For any summon ability that doesn't explicitly say otherwise (ie summons on random tile, etc.), your apprentice can summon it on the tile they're on or 1 tile north, south, east, or west. The apprentice will not cause the rune to explode because the description states that it explodes "when any other unit enters the tile". The apprentice could summon it right in under them, then move off and back onto it as many times as you want safely. However, no unit is immune from the AoE effect if another unit triggers the explosion ("This will impact all units...").

I've added section 2.0.3 to the manual about default summoning locations.

Okay, I'll summon it at 7,21, with the understanding that the damage happens at time of movement ("will explode when any other unit enters the tile").

Let's get this turn on the road, shall we? Because abilities were used this turn, I've split the turn into attack and move phases to demonstrate how actions are made, in line with what we discussed earlier in the round.

Action Log

Action Log

Attacks Phase
@Imaginative Kane
Orca throws a fireball north (Range: 2), striking Hiloc for 4 damage!

@taulover
Hiloc summons a Mana-Rune on 7,21.

Movements Phase
@Imaginative Kane
You teleport Zaen to 7,22, revealing a barren tile.
You teleport Wisent to your tower.
Zaen moves north to 7,21, revealing a barren tile.
The movement triggers the explosion of the Mana Rune on the tile, doing 40 damage and incapacitating Zaen, taking them out of the game!
Orca moves south to 6,25, revealing a barren tile.
Wisent deposits the Scroll of Heal and Self-Building Construct.
Wisent constructs Living Quarters (28/30 portions complete).

@Gerrick
Scorpion moves south to 18,12, revealing an Elemental Rod (-1)!
You teleport Tasold to your tower.
Tasold constructs a portion of Shrine (3/10 portions complete).
Tasold deposits the Scroll of Heal.
You teleport Tasold to 18,11, which has already been explored.
Tasold collects the Scroll of Heal.
Tasold moves south to 19,11, revealing a barren tile.
You cast Shinedown at 19,12, revealing a barren tile.

@taulover
Tonwar moves west to 23,7, which has already been explored.
Tonwar collects the Common Blue Basilisk Fragment.
Hiloc moves north to 6,21, revealing a barren tile.
Chroom moves east to 8,3, revealing a Scroll of Heal.
Chroom collects the Scroll of Heal.
You teleport Hiloc to your tower.

NPC Moves
The Banished moves west to 12,23, revealing Rare Blue Basilisk Fragments.

No new apprentices arrived this turn.

Player Stats

Player Stats

Red Mones

@Red Mones
Action Points (AP): 1
Inventory: None
Tower: Academy(Lvl 0), Library(Lvl 1), Gym(Lvl 0), Living Quarters(Lvl 1), Mana Pool(Lvl 1), Tower Walls(Lvl 0)
Can: Cast Shinedown (Explores the tile on the grid that you specify, Cost 1AP)

Apprentices

Heron at Your Tower
Health: 29/29 | Mana: 32/32 | Movement: 1 | Sorcery: 12 | Clerical: 5 | Summoning: 4
Spells: No Learned Spells
Inventory: None
Can: Teleport to a Tile (Cost 1AP), Build Tower Component, Make Mana Potion, Collect ItemsSekim at Your Tower
Health: 25/25 | Mana: 32/32 | Movement: 1 | Sorcery: 9 | Clerical: 7 | Summoning: 6
Spells: No Learned Spells
Inventory: None
Can: Teleport to a Tile (Cost 1AP), Build Tower Component, Make Mana Potion, Collect ItemsTimiz at Your Tower
Health: 30/30 | Mana: 28/28 | Movement: 1 | Sorcery: 9 | Clerical: 5 | Summoning: 11
Spells: No Learned Spells
Inventory: None
Can: Teleport to a Tile (Cost 1AP), Build Tower Component, Make Mana Potion, Collect Items

Gerrick

@Gerrick
Action Points (AP): 3
Inventory: Shrine Plans, Scroll of Heal
Tower: Academy(Lvl 0), Library(Lvl 1), Gym(Lvl 0), Living Quarters(Lvl 1), Mana Pool(Lvl 2 - 0/40 portions constructed), Tower Walls(Lvl 0), Shrine(Lvl 0 - 3/10 portions constructed)
Can: Cast Shinedown (Explores the tile on the grid that you specify, Cost 1AP)

Apprentices

Tasold at 19,11
Health: 26/26 | Mana: 43/43 | Movement: 1 | Sorcery: 8 | Clerical: 11 | Summoning: 12
Spells: Summon Scorpion
Inventory: Scrying Stone 8/4/1, Mana Potion, Elemental Rod (-2 Magical Damage), Scroll of Fireball, Common Blue Basilisk Fragment, Mana Charm (+7MP), Mana Charm (+7), Scroll of Fireball, Scroll of Heal
Can: Teleport to Your Tower (Cost 1AP), Move North/South/East/West, Use Mana Potion, Use Scroll of Fireball, Use Scroll of Heal, Cast Summon Scorpion

Minions

Scorpion at 18,12
Health: 14/15 | Movement: 1 | Damage: 6 | Turns Remaining: 4
Can: Teleport to Your Tower (Cost 1AP), Move North/South/East/West, Melee Attack (Any Adjacent Tile)

Imaginative Kane

@Imaginative Kane
Action Points (AP): 2
Inventory: Scroll of Heal, Scroll of Heal, Scroll of Sanctuary, Scroll of Heal, Self-Building Construct, Scroll of Heal, Self-Building Construct
Tower: Academy(Lvl 0), Library(Lvl 1), Gym(Lvl 0), Living Quarters(Lvl 1 - 28/30 portions constructed), Mana Pool(Lvl 2 - 0/40 portions constructed), Tower Walls(Lvl 1 - 0/7 portions constructed), Transcribe: Freezing Touch(Lvl 0 - 1/10 portions constructed), Transcribe: Spark(Lvl 0 - 1/10 portions constructed)
Can: Cast Shinedown (Explores the tile on the grid that you specify, Cost 1AP)

Apprentices

Wisent at Your Tower
Health: 37/37 | Mana: 40/40 | Movement: 1 | Sorcery: 7 | Clerical: 12 | Summoning: 5
Spells: Fireball
Inventory: Vitality Charm (+7HP), Elemental Rod (-2 Magical Damage), Mana Charm (+6)
Can: Teleport to a Tile (Cost 1AP), Build Tower Component, Make Mana Potion, Collect Items, Cast Fireball North/South/East/WestOrca at 6,25
Health: 25/25 | Mana: 22/32 | Movement: 1 | Sorcery: 4 | Clerical: 8 | Summoning: 7
Spells: Fireball
Inventory: Elemental Rod (-3 Magical Damage), Scroll of Fireball
Can: Teleport to Your Tower (Cost 1AP), Move North/South/East/West, Use Scroll of Fireball, Cast Fireball North/South/East/West

taulover

@taulover
Action Points (AP): 1
Inventory: Graveyard Plans, Rage Revenant Essence, Vitality Charm (+7HP)
Tower: Academy(Lvl 0), Library(Lvl 1 - 2/10 portions constructed), Gym(Lvl 0), Living Quarters(Lvl 1), Mana Pool(Lvl 1), Tower Walls(Lvl 0)
Can: Cast Shinedown (Explores the tile on the grid that you specify, Cost 1AP)

Apprentices

Chroom at 8,3
Health: 32/32 | Mana: 26/26 | Movement: 1 | Sorcery: 12 | Clerical: 15 | Summoning: 17
Spells: Fireball, Summon Mana-Rune, Summon Briar Wall
Inventory: Vitality Charm (+7HP), Mana Potion, Elemental Rod (-3 Magical Damage), Self-Building Construct, Rage Ravenant Essence, Scroll of Heal, Scroll of Summon Scorpion, Font of Knowledge, Rare Blue Basilisk Fragments, Tome of Mana-Rune, Tome of Beating Essence, Tome of Summon Scorpion, Tome of Fireball, Bloodtouched Emblem (+4), Scroll of Heal
Can: Teleport to Your Tower (Cost 1AP), Move North/South/East/West, Use Mana Potion, Use Scroll of Heal, Use Scroll of Summon Scorpion, Use Scroll of Heal, Cast Fireball North/South/East/West, Cast Summon Mana-Rune, Cast Summon Briar WallTonwar at 23,7
Health: 27/27 | Mana: 32/32 | Movement: 1 | Sorcery: 4 | Clerical: 9 | Summoning: 7
Spells: Fireball, Summon Mana-Rune, Summon Briar Wall
Inventory: Elemental Rod (-2 Magical Damage), Rare Blue Basilisk Fragments, Elemental Rod (-2 Magical Damage), Elemental Rod (-3 Magical Damage), Rare Blue Basilisk Fragment, Common Blue Basilisk Fragment
Can: Teleport to Your Tower (Cost 1AP), Move North/South/East/West, Cast Fireball North/South/East/West, Cast Summon Mana-Rune, Cast Summon Briar WallHiloc at Your Tower
Health: 21/25 | Mana: 13/28 | Movement: 1 | Sorcery: 11 | Clerical: 8 | Summoning: 10
Spells: Fireball, Summon Mana-Rune, Summon Briar Wall
Inventory: Elemental Rod (-1 Magical Damage), Common Blue Basilisk Fragment, Tome of Blink, Algamic Cross (+5), Scroll of Heal, Tome of Heal
Can: Teleport to a Tile (Cost 1AP), Build Tower Component, Make Mana Potion, Collect Items, Cast Fireball North/South/East/West, Cast Summon Briar Wall

Round 44 Ends Thursday, March 24th or once all active players have moved.

Wow I was not expecting enough damage to immediately remove my apprentice. Guess I should have paid more attention to the Mana Rune damage though that definitely seems a bit steep.

Orca: Move West and Collect Anything
Tower: Return Orca to Tower
Wisent: Construct Living Quarters
Orca: Complete Living Quarters (if possible), Deposit Scroll of Fireball and anything from 5,25
Tower: Teleport Wisent to 4,25
Wisent: Collect Anything