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Lil' Wolf I: Party On, Wolves
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Anubhav Ghosh
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  • I am into two games , and I think I have already lost control over this game , I will blindly follow what I thing is the best argument from now on , since I think I am already much aloof from the game. All that said , I will do the said stuffs if I am not lynched or I stay alive
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  • Mobile browser crashed while I was trying to write up a post. Am busy now, will try to share some thoughts later if I have time.
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  • Idk why people are buying into Doc’s argument that the Seer reveal is human behaviour. You do know that those humans already figured it out when I posted it, since Doc was on the exact same wavelength. My reveal secures 2-3 town cores that no one will ever vote against, as well as direct the defender in the right direction in case it wasn’t clear. I stand by my decision that the reveal was the right choice.

    Also, Hydra already died. Idk if you haven’t been reading the thread, or you attempting a fake derp clear, Anub.
    Please bear with me because I got day drunk on the Wine in Front of Me. So Sapph, the reason the seer reveal bothers me is because it's such a not town thing that you'd have to be town to do it. But at the same time it brings no advantage to town. So I'm like, what was the point? There's no clear advantage to announcing it like that. So it's like, why do it? So does that mean that you saw it as such an obvious mistake that people wouldn't think you, as a more experienced players would make that mistake as a wolf? And how exactly did you know that the humans knew at that point? Did Doc take a fall to provide a human with an ironclad defense? The ultimate distancing?


    Could you perhaps explain the logic behind why you did that? Because I've seen you say that it isn't sus. But not why you did it to begin with. It would do wonders to clear you from my list. Thank you.
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    I'm confident in Sapph's ability to defend himself, but I should mention that Doc would not have known he would be taking the fall at the time of Sapph's comment and Doc's attack against it. Doc was only discovered the night after.

    Also, I'm switching my vote from BSR to tau, they're both the most likely humans in my current PoE, but pressuring tau seems like it might get more results than pressuring BSR at this point.

    Switch Vote - Make taulover Leave

    Is this "later" enough so that you're able to try again or not yet, @taulover?
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  • Please bear with me because I got day drunk on the Wine in Front of Me. So Sapph, the reason the seer reveal bothers me is because it's such a not town thing that you'd have to be town to do it. But at the same time it brings no advantage to town. So I'm like, what was the point? There's no clear advantage to announcing it like that. So it's like, why do it? So does that mean that you saw it as such an obvious mistake that people wouldn't think you, as a more experienced players would make that mistake as a wolf? And how exactly did you know that the humans knew at that point? Did Doc take a fall to provide a human with an ironclad defense? The ultimate distancing?


    Could you perhaps explain the logic behind why you did that? Because I've seen you say that it isn't sus. But not why you did it to begin with. It would do wonders to clear you from my list. Thank you.
    Once again, I have to reiterate that the Seer reveal is not too Wolf to be Wolf. That is literally Doc’s train of thought and he has already been exposed as a scum, and thereby his intentions are impure.

    My intention at that time is one of distinct frustration at the utter lack of activity and by extension, interest left in the remaining players to solve the game after Lau and LOS left. As such, the best way to do so is to openly analyse Lau and LOS last words, seeing both are confirmed Town, with Lau clearly a Seer scan on first night and LOS one of the defenders. By putting this analysis and reveal out into the open, I want to secure at least 2 Town cores - Hydra, Vro - with the potential third defender being Doc (turns out LOS misread, and him putting him there is not mech clear but inference clear) or you. This is while focusing our remaining attention on the rest. I would also want to direct the remaining defender’s attention to defend Hydra, at the bare minimum secure us one more scan which is Doc and that is to our advantage. On the most manifestly observable level, it returned some degree of activity back into this game, and we managed to find Doc is a human.
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  • Also, literally all your arguments against me are directly sourced from Doc’s accusatory analysis ... it makes no logical sense to me that you would put weight into his vicious attack to lynch me, because it’s not a mistake at all. Don’t buy into his misleading logic that it is in any way a mistake, it isn’t, it’s an intentional move that stirred the town in the right way.
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  • Is this "later" enough so that you're able to try again or not yet, @taulover?
    Well, clearly not. :P

    Got my second dose today, so I was trying to get as much homework done before the side effects kick in (which considering how chilly I feel despite the current temperature in the room, is probably about now).

    I don't appreciate the selective quoting - I didn't say I would be able to try again later, only if I have time. In this case my time actually has run out, and my body is seriously just telling me to curl up and go to sleep, but since I'm already here I might as well give it a shot. Just don't expect my thoughts to be as coherent as usual.

    That made absolutely no sense, Anub you are completely off. I am literally the one who encouraged Vro to state the seer read ytd, and literally the first one out of seer squad that encouraged the vote afterwards. Honestly if Anub didn’t human, idk who can be. I am willing to tunnel on him
    To be honest, Anubhav's behavior now is actually what's putting me off wanting to vote him immediately. Does a human make these actions in this way? I feel like a wolf out of everyone in the game would have the most practical knowledge of the situation, and would know how to blend in a lot better. That being said if several other possibilities are exhausted I will vote Anubhav. Are Anubhav's interactions regarding Doc indicative that they're scum buddies or not? I've been trying to determine that, and have not had any clear insights. Perhaps you would have a better perspective, Sapph.
    Hypothetically speaking, if there were a Human who was pretty much inactive until after the seer army's role reveal of Doc, the logical thing to do certainly would be to try to build up the counterwagon as a last-ditch effort. And the only way to do that at that point would be to feign ignorance of the whole situation. Then, the only way for that to be convincing would be to double down on that effort.

    In Anub's case, I'm not quite convinced that that is what's going on here, main reason being that he switched votes to Sapph afterwards rather than staying on the main counterwagon of TGN. But that switch could also be an attempt to course-correct/avoid suspicion after realizing that the counterwagon was not going to feasibly tie the Doc votes. Not sure, I haven't looked closely enough at the votes to verify what was going on there.

    This is my second game of werewolf. At least in terms of forum werewolf.
    Oh huh, you gave off much more experienced vibes than that, my bad. I think I saw you say that you have experience with Werewolf/Mafia in general though? I sorta assumed that you might be one of those Discord Mafia players like LoS and ENE. Or is it more just casual in-person Mafia experience?

    I’ve played a lot of the card version.
    To clarify - like the playing cards version of mafia, or Ultimate Werewolf, or One Night?

    And for some reason I can't remember at the time Taul was ringing a bell. I think it had something to do with being really on board with Doc's no lynch plan. I do remember them saying it was because their a more old school player but that could easily be a cover that was suggested for them.
    Not sure what you mean by this. I posted what I think was a fair analysis of No Lynch on the first day, because it was the main wagon at the time and nobody else was taking it seriously. I suggested that perhaps the newcomers from external Mafia forums have a stronger and perhaps inaccurate bias against No Lynch, because I was struggling to come up with good logical counterarguments against No Lynch. However, I was ultimately hesitant to go against the common wisdom and did not vote No Lynch. The old-school connection was important and relevant to those thoughts because, other than Doc, the one other person who had voted No Lynch at the time (IIRC) was Hydra.

    Idk why people are buying into Doc’s argument that the Seer reveal is human behaviour. You do know that those humans already figured it out when I posted it, since Doc was on the exact same wavelength. My reveal secures 2-3 town cores that no one will ever vote against, as well as direct the defender in the right direction in case it wasn’t clear. I stand by my decision that the reveal was the right choice.

    Also, Hydra already died. Idk if you haven’t been reading the thread, or you attempting a fake derp clear, Anub.
    Please bear with me because I got day drunk on the Wine in Front of Me. So Sapph, the reason the seer reveal bothers me is because it's such a not town thing that you'd have to be town to do it. But at the same time it brings no advantage to town. So I'm like, what was the point? There's no clear advantage to announcing it like that. So it's like, why do it? So does that mean that you saw it as such an obvious mistake that people wouldn't think you, as a more experienced players would make that mistake as a wolf? And how exactly did you know that the humans knew at that point? Did Doc take a fall to provide a human with an ironclad defense? The ultimate distancing?
    Hasn't Sapph's seer army reveal already paid dividends? Without it, I doubt we would have had enough confidence in Vro to trust his claim about Doc, and the last day phase would've been another mislynch.

    I didn't really like it at first either, but ended up reading Sapph as villager because (I thought) it didn't offer the villagers any advantage, it seemed actively disadvantageous for a Human to do. And regardless, I don't think you can argue with the results.

    Anyone who is quoted gets a notification, or at least I do when I'm quoted.
    There's an option to turn of PM/email notifications, but that does it for both mentions and quotes I think.
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  • Fair. My selective quoting was made under the assumption that it would only matter if you did have time to read and respond, I didn't mean for it to annoy you.

    The issue tau is that I think that unless you can provide us with a good alternative, we're (or at least I'm) going to be hung up on you until we either find the two humans or you flip (assuming you're town). I understand you say you are not getting any human reads, but if you are lynched today and you flip town, where would you like us to look next, and why? I'll accept gut reasoning as an answer for why, but if you convince me to go after someone else using more than that, that would be great. I'm willing to be convinced.

    You've been a consistent Null read for many people, making posts (including this last one) that although are good, don't really lead us anywhere, or states a take on the style. It could be argued that Doc was trying to save you for pushing on Sapph without making himself more obvious by pushing Gerrick. Not being able to give me names earlier could point to wariness of picking fights you can't win, or of giving information before your lynch. Basically, almost everything you've said to me feels like good posts, but not alignment-indicative posts. I deeply apologize if you are town, but I've reached a quandry of how to proceed.
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  • You've been a consistent Null read for many people, making posts (including this last one) that although are good, don't really lead us anywhere, or states a take on the style. It could be argued that Doc was trying to save you for pushing on Sapph without making himself more obvious by pushing Gerrick.
    Or, if they do lead us anywhere they lead us to a place we've either already reached, or could reach by ourselves. Basically to me it feels like you're making safe posts instead of townie posts.
    At the time of Doc's vote I guess he wouldn't really be trying to save you, but as I'm operating on the assumption that Sapph is town, the fact that Doc attacked only Sapph could indicate that he was leading the attention away from you, who was likely to become the only counter-wagon next to Gerrick.
    quandary*
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  • Very sorry for the triple post, I have too much to say y'all. I actually won't be around at the end of day, so I suppose it will be the others you have to convince. I would not accept these as viable counter-wagons at all today: Sapph, cozmik, Nyght. I'm leaning against lynching Anubhav and TGN.

    Also something funny I noticed that I'm not accepting as a good reason on its own to vote tau is that both Doc and tau started a post with "Ah." Unconscious mirroring of a human buddy, hmmmm? :P
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    Vro: BSR ----> Taulover
    Anubhav Ghosh: Sapphiron ----> Unvote


    Votes:

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    Nobody was killed this phase.

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  • Welcome back wolf buds! Fortunately, no wolves were killed last night.

    So now it's Party Time once more!

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  • Defender, you're my hero. <3

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