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Something has felt weird to me about Anu's pushes, and the same is true to me for the reasoning behind LoS' reads, but actually coming up with someone I want lynched is way harder than it ought to be.

@Michi, assuming people are about to be inactivity lynched, will you try to find a sub?

I nominate @Aragonn if so.

What is the vote count right now?

Doc
Legacy of Smiles(I am already regretting)

Townlean : Gerrick as of now

Null on Sapph , TGN , ENE, and Lau for time being , D1 posts are the scummiest of all tbh .

Scum:
Nyght: I have seen her as wolf already , and she tried to start a wagon on a veteran . Here she does the same thing and botes Lau , almost siting the same reason

Colberius: Seems like he had nothing to add , just wanted to grab onto something that came flying by , which is Doc's statement saying why Lau didn't mention BSR among inactive listings and placed it in.

A Nyght/Colberius scumteam looks very possible to me.

For context I started out the last game in a very town mindset as I had missed the pm for the group chat and jumped right into the game thinking I was town. Which I imagine is why I got town read as early as I did. I was working under the impression I was town.

Myself, I find it strange that you've latched onto Gerrick as a town when there hasn't been much to go on. But you've scum read someone who threw a vote on them.

Not sure what you're referring to here. I'm in Anu's nulls, and I'm the one who voted for Gerrick.

I was talking about Anu. Not you. I voted for you as a poke to get a reaction. And it was sufficiently playful to allay suspicion for the moment.

I'm referring to the part where you say you find it strange that Anu is sussing someone who voter for Gerrick.

1 scum read right now

>screwed the pooch last game
>accordingly, decides to radically change playstyle because I'd prefer to win
>'Aha, he must be scum'
flawless logic there, but whatever, i'll treat it as a reaction test and avoid my instinctive OMGUS switch in favor of just being snitty
On the assumption you're targeting me because I'm not especially scumhunting (because on what basis would I try? This is RVS, nobody knows diddly except scum and they're not gonna tell us anything), I've said it before and I'll say it again; if there ever really is a time for a mislynch to get info, D1 is that time, because today of all days information is at a premium and lives are not.

WIM = Want It More (in reference to winning the game, e.g how enthusiastic the player is... pretty hard to explain if you don't see it used but it usually indicates a townsperson if they are eager to solve the game).

How are you defining scum hunting, exactly, LoS?

To be completely honest, scum hunting was probably a bad description. I would more say that Nyght was eager to get to the "meat and potatoes" of the game which is what he described as "getting the ball roling" i.e looking for scum (which is why I originally called it scumhunting but I think I took a bit of a logical leap there).  To contrast, last game Nyght seemed to prefer to try to avoid discussion like that last game when possible and would often come and talk to me in wolf chat without ever saying anything in thread so I think it marks a change in attitude for him because of a change in alignments.

I thought half the point of this game was that we were deliberately trying not to do this stuff to make it a more chill game, rather than the sort of game everyone's tearing their hair out over - you know, as suggested below, since it's not like anyone in this game hasn't actually played WW before.

10. Reads lists, lingo, and other Mafia Universe tidbits are appreciated, but discouraged to keep this game less confusing for players new to the game.

Also, that said, miss me with that 'WIM' stuff; this is a game with a Seer Squad; if the Seer lives long enough, which can be practically guaranteed if he contacts the Defenders (1/6 odds if we lynch today, otherwise 2/13, and those odds only get better) since they can just trade off defending him every night until he's solved the game; improving the Seer's odds of contacting the Defenders improves his odds of survival improves our odds of winning the game, and we always have the option to no lynch later on in the game to get us to an odd number (or if the Defenders block an NK, even better), especially since that just adds on more days in which the Seer can solve the game.
The optimal winning strategy is to delay until the Seer solves the game. With 11 town, 3 scum, assuming an NK every night, and a no-lynch every other day (to avoid running afoul of Rule 6);
If we lynch D1, D2 it's 9 town 3 scum, D3 it's 8 town 3 scum, D4 it's 6 town 3 scum, D5 it's 5 town 3 scum, at which point Seer has scanned 4 times and (assuming the statistical likelihood that only 1 NK hits a Seer target) will have at least 2 friends and knows at least 1 scum.
If we don't lynch D1, D2 it's 10 town 3 scum, D3 it's 8 town 3 scum, D4 it's 7 town 3 scum, D5 it's 5 town 3 scum, and can reach D6 where it's 4 town 3 scum, at which point (again, assuming the statistical likelihood that only 1 NK hits a Seer target) we can assume the game is solved because there will have been 4 successful scans.

Actually with that in mind, Vote: No Lynch again, and I urge everyone else to do the same.

Open question to everyone: what do you think of Doc's first paragraph, given that I have not yet given any reason to scumread him. If you want an extra pointer, how do you feel about how Doc reads me from that paragraph that he wrote? What might that suggest about Doc? Interested if someone reaches the same conclusion I do on that.

And yeah, sorry. I'm naturally more of a serious player so I'm in the habit of posting like that. If anybody doesn't understand things I'm saying, please just ask me to explain (even if you need to keep asking me to explain the same thing multiple times before you understand that's ok).

But I disagree with your stance on seer squad. First of all, that's a pretty boring way to win (and probably not the experience we want to give new players: "let one lucky person carry the game"). The second reason is that we win or lose almost entirely depending on if the seer gets killed at night early. I haven't quite worked out the odds of it but winning by seer squad seems on par with winning by rolling a die every day and choosing who to chop that way... it works fairly often, sure, but why would you do that? I'd prefer the seer to help us win normally instead f completely relying on them.

Chin up, Doc. I consider you a pretty good player and if you're town I'd much appreciate your help this game.

Hmm, this actually feels a lot more confrontational than the last game from you. I have not liked your reasoning for placing Nyght in town, not me, to be honest, but I'm inclined to keep you in the game a bit for this post alone. Confrontation shows me you're not as worried about appearing nice and Townie as you were last game.

You get extra town points for being the first to notice my playstyle shift. Last game, because of a lack of meta, I found it much easier to attempt to just be as towny as possible instead of actually trying to replicate my real town play (which is probably soldier than my scum play in a vacuum if I try to replicate it). I +1 this post and it's clear that Lau is genuinely trying to solve me from this.

My big puzzle for this round is going to be whether one bad game is really likely to make you play with what I would consider an honestly defeatist attitude for this game. If it is, then I will say the same to you I did to Coz: let the past go, man. You honestly played well. Your logic was very good, you just didn't push it in enough directions, and suffered from what I would say was being way too forgiving of new players.

I'm not treating it as defeatist, I'm saying that in the event we cannot conclusively solve the game, by taking some honestly pretty simple actions we can create a safety net for ourselves.
Do the math; with just one no lynch we buy an entire extra day for ourselves, and with three we get two. The only reason I'm pushing for it today rather than tomorrow is because if we do it today, we still have the option of the third no-lynch, instead of being forced into LyLo.
I don't consider building ourselves a safety net to be defeatist; I consider it common sense. We could rely on our ability to scumhunt and solve the game, just like we could rely on good diet and exercise to stay alive long-term, but just like most people want insurance just in case the whole diet and exercise thing doesn't work out because you develop, idk, cancer, I'd also rather be able to fall back upon the Seer in case that plan doesn't work out.

Vote Tracker:
Sapph: Legacy
Gerrick: Nyght
Lau: Gerrick
Doc: No Lynch
Nyght: Lau
LoS: Anubhav
TGN: Sapph
Doc: cozmikrae
Colberius: BSR
LoS: Doc
Doc: No Lynch

Vote Count:
LoS - Sapph (1)
Nyght - Gerrick (1)
Gerrick - Lau (1)
Lau - Nyght (1)
TGN - Sapph
BSR - Colberius (1)
Doc - LoS (1)
No Lynch - Doc (1)

Fascinating interplay between Nyght, Gerrick, and Lau incidentally. Neat little triangle there. I don't read anything into it,  but it's amusing.

At the risk of sounding wolfy, I'm worried that since we're already on page 6 on Day 1 that we might be putting off those players who haven't played Werewolf here in a while. This format of Werewolf (Lil' Wolf) was aimed at giving those players a slower game and not have to stay on top of the game 24/7, lest they come back to 20 votes in as many pages. I'd like to hear from taulover, Hydra, Colberius X (and perhaps BraveSirRobin) to get their thoughts on how the game is currently progressing to make sure this isn't getting too out of hand and turn into one of our now regular games of Werewolf. Also as Michi pointed out in the OP, I'd discourage everyone from using any sort of Werewolf-based abbreviations as well as posting 7 bloody times in a row (looking at you, Laurentus O_O).

Two other people who I both townread have picked up on Anubhav feeling... off... this game so far I think? Particularly the town read on Gerrick didn't seem genuine to me.

Also got a very solid TR on both Nyght and Lau right now. And to address what Lau said in regards to my reads, my explanations for stuff will be similar NAI because I always plan them out a lot in my head.

If there's anything you want to ask me about my town/scum play then I'm usually happy to answer honestly. I'm not concerned about outing any of my scumtells because doing so just forces me to play better whenever I next rand scum.

Someone asked for a read list so here it is.

Spoiler

Town:Doc and Laurentus

Null:Coz, TGN, Sapph, Hydra, Colb, BSR, Gerrick, Tail, ENE

Scum:Anub and Legacy

I would be more than happy to answer any inquiries into my reasoning.

And also, unvote: Laurentus

He seems pretty genuinely invested in working things out.

The thread feels so inactive, tho. We're only on page 6. I've been restraining myself a lot already.

I stand by that if we do ever decide not to eliminate in this setup then we should probably do it later into the game (at MyLo - even number of players - assuming we either get 0 or 2 successful protects). Earlier than then and we might just be costing ourselves an extra free elimination. I think there's certainly enough evidence in the thread so far for us to make at least a somewhat informed choice onto who to chop.

I feel like 95% confident that Nyght is just town this game. This is just not scum-Nyght.

No, Nyght sits firmly in my nulls at present. Of course, I only have one scum lean at present, and that's Anu.

@Anubhav Ghosh, what do you think about the play between LoS and Nyght?