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Werewolf XXII: Of Cores and Turrets
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Laurentus
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  • Fuck it, I am tired and I am going to sleep.

    I doubt Sapph will be back before EOD, as he's in Singapore and probably asleep, too. I am going to be severely annoyed if he just goes straight back to lurking if he somehow survives this, but ultimately, I don't want to lose someone of his experience and keen insight.

    unvote: Sapphiron
    vote: Red Mones
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  • I will vote for Gerrick. Partly to balance things somewhat and partly because I am suspicious of their quiet approach to this game.
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  • I guess I gotta explain my weird thought process. How do I articulate this...

    The way I go about figuring out who is scummy is by taking the night targets and creating projections of possible future targets based on perceived patterns then taking the expanded lists of night targets and rating them for how probable they would be to come to reality followed by taking the most probable one and cross referencing it with player behaviors in chat as well as my experience playing with those players to then determine who the scum is. It's a long and complicated process which typically only works mid-late game, but this game has been so active there's a metric ton of information to analyze in the chat. Being vocal helps me with organizing my thoughts so they're not so jumbled, and putting it here in the chat gives y'all context for any context-less decision I may make in the future. But if you insist on me keeping my thoughts to myself I will. Just good luck getting a comprehensive answer as to why I'm voting for someone.

    Personally I like that your adding to the game and I like saying everyone's thought process so I'd personally like you to continue posting thought here  :D


    As for voting I'm suspicious of Mones but that apparently might just be play style. I'm reading Saph as a town who's busy IRL and struggling to keep up with the pace of this game.

    My main read is Madeline there few posts read to me as a new player who rolled turret and doesn't really no what too do. For that reason Vote: Madeline
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  • Hmm, @Wintermoot, could we ever consider getting something like a thread-specific search tool? That way someone could just type something like "vote" and then see all the messages where a vote has been cast, and why.
    You can go to the "Print View" for the topic, which lists out all pages, and then Ctrl-F to find votes. It does get annoying though.
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  • Fucking hell. I had this post half-written and it literally disappeared from my browser. I have no clue why. v_v

    I will admit that I haven't given this game the attention it deserves, although I've done my best. The fact of the matter is, when I joined I had no clue that it would blow up the way that it did, and this has been the sort of week where everything has demanded my attention, to the point where I’ve had to let things here that weren’t timely or vital drop. In fairness, so far it’s been more work and real life than anything here. I’m doing the best I can, but I admit I haven’t had the time or energy to put into it that others have.

    In any case, I’ve spent the last hour and a half reading through this phases’ post, and to be honest I’m not getting much out of it...what I’m seeing is a lot of misunderstandings (Red Mones-Pengu), WW culture/personality conflicts, and that weird thing Laurentus and Aragonn have been doing since last game. I don’t even know why Sapphiron and Red Mones are the wagons at the moment, except that apparently Sapphiron hasn’t been vocal enough and Red Mones has been erratic. It reads a lot like people are grasping at straws, even more than usual in Werewolf games, and I can only guess that’s because everyone is overwhelmed with pages of content and the possibilities that come with 28 players in a game.

    The only substantive action that seems to have occurred (correct me if I’m wrong) is Pengu’s decision to claim that he’s the jailor and that Laurentus told him that he’s an investigative role. Laurentus’s replies seem to back what Pengu is saying, but is that because they’re being honest or because they’re both wolves wanting to avoid suspicion? There was a lot of talk of them being both wolves and both townies...are those the most likely outcomes? Like, if we were to lynch one and discover their side, would that mean that it’s reasonable to assume the other is on the same side? Or is that flawed reasoning? This is a new sort of situation for me in-game...generally people haven’t been allowed to bring up their roles, much less the role of another player.

    Hmm, @Wintermoot, could we ever consider getting something like a thread-specific search tool? That way someone could just type something like "vote" and then see all the messages where a vote has been cast, and why.
    Technically yes, but I’m not sure a thread-specific search tool is exactly what you’re wanting, because that would bring up any post with the word vote in it, rather than the posts that specifically contain votes.


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  • I strongly urge everyone to reconsider their votes for me. You need me if a certain effect is enabled. @Barnes, @Hapi, @Weissreich, you’re votes will contribute to nothing at the end of the day. I’m asking for your help.
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  • Can we have a vote count please?
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  • Can we have a vote count please?
    Sure. EoD is in <40 mins

    Push the button: 13

    Pengu: 1 (Barnes)
    Aragonn: 2 (lil g, Hapi)
    Sapphiron: 3 (Gerrick, Red Mones, ExLight)
    Gerrick: 2 (Doc, Weissreich)
    Red Mones: 3 (Sapphiron, Minish, Laurentus)
    Exlight: 1 (Charax)

    Hapi's vote was randomly recast.
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  • What happens in the case of a tie?
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  • I'll change my vote from Gerrick to Aragonn.
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  • One of the main things I look for in Laurentus to tell if he's scum is if he's targeting other members of House Valeria. That would be me, Hydra, and Tau. So far he's cast suspicion on us all and even thrown a vote in my direction. I'm not taking hard action against him because he's not pressing so hard and all the town reads y'all are getting from him, but I don't trust him.
    What does that make Pengu, Marzipan, Arenado, and Hapi if you, Hydra, Tau, and Laurentus are the members of House Valeria? :o
    The newer Valeria members definitely do have a closer connection and the "Valerians stick together in Werewolf" meta comes from an earlier time, so feelings-wise it would be different. Aren of course has been in Valeria for quite a while, but I do also definitely see the Laurentus+Aragonn+Colberius+me and BSR+Hydra Valeria combos as particularly strong there.

    Anyways, it's a little odd to me how common OMGUS votes (or what y'all call tit-for-tat) are here. On ZD those are seen as rather suspicious. Because you're supposed to be defending yourself, not throwing shade on the other person. Sure if you're town you know they're wrong, but you gotta show people they're wrong. Townies vote other townies all the time so you should be looking for behavior and not just retaliating for votes against you.
    It probably is more common because usually games here don't develop enough early game for reliable information to develop. (Also note that "tit-for-tat" is more the general game theory term for this; I don't think we ever had that terminology widely used at all because of a lack of a need.)

    Although technically that means the chances of me being wolf in a game go up after each town game, not really helping my case here though :P
    While chances go up with repeated games, the chance for the individual game stays the same so that doesn't really affect anything lol

    I will vote for Gerrick. Partly to balance things somewhat and partly because I am suspicious of their quiet approach to this game.
    I would agree that Gerrick has been eerily quiet, which is certainly suspicious. I'm not sure if it's enough for me to vote for him, considering that the uniquely active nature of this game is, ironically, having a corresponding chilling effect on a lot of players' activity.

    Ack who to vote for, especially with the recasting thing making life super confusing, maybe just leave it to RNG as it is...

    Hapi's vote was randomly recast.
    Ok I might not like the other effects but this is just getting confusing and annoying

    Vote: push button

    I'll change my vote from Gerrick to Aragonn.
    Ah shit does that mean another vote gets recast
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  • Ah shit does that mean another vote gets recast
    No, since the vote that was recast was Hapi's (the one just before Weiss's).
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  • Ah shit does that mean another vote gets recast
    No, since the vote that was recast was Hapi's (the one just before Weiss's).
    Gah I'm losing track of the vote order and how this recasting is supposed to work
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  • Sapphiron has been killed. Their role was St4nl3y, a villager

    RNG roll can be found on sidekick. Numbers were in alphabetical order, where 1=aragonn, 2=re mones, and 3=sapphiron.

    Push the button: 14

    Pengu: 1 (Barnes)
    Aragonn: 3 (lil g, Hapi, Weissreich)
    Sapphiron: 3 (Gerrick, Red Mones, ExLight)
    Gerrick: 1 (Doc)
    Red Mones: 3 (Sapphiron, Minish, Laurentus)
    Exlight: 1 (Charax)

    More randomness for those who enjoy it
    The Game core could be seen giggling like a schoolgirl from his vantagepoint as the day progressed, with so much pointing of fingers, a few spats, and lots of cores becoming more and more upset. As he made his truly epic descent into the room, he almost wished he hadn't either killed or maimed all the musically talented things around him. It could have been a truly dramatic entrance.

    "Cores, turrets, friends! I come to push another one of you into the deadly pit of thousands of degrees, where you will explode and be reassambled in the seclusion of the watching room, never to speak to anyone ever again. Erm, I mean, only to speak to the also... whatever. I want to push one of you down a hole. Now who is it?"

    A sheet covered blob pushes another sheet covered blob forward, causing them to rock a bit. The game core only laughs.

    "Fools! Are you cores trying to lose? For you see, he was the button loving St4nl3y the whole time!"

    And then the game core swings into the core, knocking them down the firey pit without a peep.

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