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Pengu Paragon Act
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  • Since it's kind of depressing to have no paragons who are still very actively involved with the region, and since Pengu most definitely deserves it for his contributions to the ministry of culture and both chambers of the legislature, I'm proposing this.

    How should we word this, and is this something we all agree should happen?
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  • We have a precedent of only elevating members who have notable contributions to the community to Paragon status after they are no longer actively involved with the region. That said, I do agree that Pengu deserves to be elevated to this prestigious status.

    Meanwhile, would any of the current Skrifa like to chime in on this or is there consensus that this should be left to the next Underhusen?
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    Laurentus
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  • With Weissreich's return to the community, I'd say a precedent has been established that allows Paragons to actively participate now, so that is no longer a potential obstacle in giving Pengu such a status. :)

    Anyway, I look forward to seeing what the next session of the UH does with this.
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    Barnes
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  • Upon seeing his return, it's become increasingly evident that Pengu is vital to the community and culture. And frankly, of all things, he didn't deserve that citizenship scare, and he should've been an honorary citizen so he didn't have to worry about losing his status here in Wintreath.

    I'll be happy to draft something up soon :)
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  • Upon seeing his return, it's become increasingly evident that Pengu is vital to the community and culture. And frankly, of all things, he didn't deserve that citizenship scare, and he should've been an honorary citizen so he didn't have to worry about losing his status here in Wintreath.

    I'll be happy to draft something up soon :)
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  • I might be somewhat late to the proceedings here (that's what I get for clicking into the forum and then back out without reading all of the threads!) but for what it's worth I think Pengu is deserving of the Paragon status. His contributions in making and keeping the region what it is today can't really be judged, because they're not only codified in law or RP threads but more in the discussions and conversations he's contributed to.

    The precedent of Paragonhood being a post humorously awarded accolade is, whilst laudable in some regards, rather restrictive. I'm not sure about the status of the Wintrean Commendation vis-a-vis it actually existing any more, but I get the impression that Paragonhood and/or being granted a Title is the only real way we have to reward an active member of the community without also (and again, this may not hold true for long with the Convention on at the moment) moving them into a position of authority or responsibility, a position they might not be able to take.

    By making it something active members can receive, you'd be creating an incentive for involvement not only in the legislative (as I was at first, back when I was first around) but in the cultural and community activities. If we build on the already well-constructed foundations of the region we can only go from strength to strength in the future, and hopefully we'll be able to retain - and reward - longstanding members for their commitment and contributions :)

    Who better to set that precedent than Pengu?
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    Laurentus
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  • Fully agreed, though I would argue Citizen of the Month is also a fairly prestigious award.
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  • Fully agreed, though I would argue Citizen of the Month is also a fairly prestigious award.
    That may be a bit biased coming from a two-time Citizen of the Month and Citizen of the Year >:D

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    Laurentus
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  • Ugh. I'm not certain it was an honour for me. I foolishly agreed to interview said citizens, so by now I'm going to have to interview myself 3 times. :'(
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  • Ugh. I'm not certain it was an honour for me. I foolishly agreed to interview said citizens, so by now I'm going to have to interview myself 3 times. :'(

    Actually, I'm going to go ahead and take care of the interviews so I can start tossing them into the Lusty Jarl...unless others want to do it.  :P
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  • Ugh. I'm not certain it was an honour for me. I foolishly agreed to interview said citizens, so by now I'm going to have to interview myself 3 times. :'(

    Actually, I'm going to go ahead and take care of the interviews so I can start tossing them into the Lusty Jarl...unless others want to do it.  :P
    Yeah, I was under the impression that Pengu would be doing the interviews. He even contacted me to set one up.
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  • The Wintreath Commendation still exists, however I honestly think that the name change of Honorary Citizenship to Paragon was a mistake as people seem to not realize the original reasons behind them... :\
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  • Oh, I agreed to it months and months ago. Sapphiron, Pengu, Point Breeze and Anneliese (who came, made waves, and vanished) will probably remember me doing theirs. It's yet to be published though.
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  • I have introduced an act for debate in the UH. It goes something like this.

    Title
    1. This act shall be cited as the Pengu Paragon Act.

    Recognition

    2. Wintreath notes the numerous achievements of Pengu:
    (a) Establishing the Lusty Jarl and keeping it entertaining and engaging,
    (b) Being a driving force for the community with his work on Werewolf,
    (c) For outstanding service as the Jarl of Culture

    3. Wintreath recognises that:
    (a) Pengu's efforts have invaluably furthered the continuity of the region and its revived roleplay,
    (b) The above list is not fully inclusive of Pengu's accomplishments, and

    4. Pengu is hereby elevated to the rank of Paragon.

    I would just like to see where the people stand on this.

    Also, since I forgot to ask, if anyone else has any other reason why Pengu should be elevated I would love to hear it :]
    « Last Edit: February 13, 2016, 06:24:52 AM by North »
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