inspired by tau telling me about these magical 'colors' and 'shoutboxes' to rediscover the actual front page of wintreath, i was concerned to note that the underhusen listed in the side bar hasn't been updated since the preceding session
you done messed up, a a ronoh also
Aethelia was asking why we don't ban, let alone put up with people like Justinian, and I brought up Gov to illustrate how Wintreath treats people in its community. Also, Wintermoot brought up Gov in his AMA, and the multiple mentions in this short period of time seems to have made Aethelia curious about the person.
That...seems like a comparison of Justinian to Govindia, and in the very, very passing familiarity I have gleaned from 'reviewing that one linked thread among others'... That strikes me as a little harsh of a judgement there, since in no way has he harassed anyone to the extent it seems suggested Govindia did.
Which now makes me think, and I guess I'll piggyback this onto my response to Tau because there doesn't seem to be a great other thing to quote - Aethelia, he might have opinions you disagree with and a...less than desirable way of expressing them, but that (mostly the 'shitty way of expressing said opinions' part; he's said some heinous things in the past I'm 99% certain he doesn't
genuinely think) doesn't strike me as 'starting shit' with people, just an admittedly shitty method of carrying out a debate. It doesn't strike me that it's affected his relationship with anyone - both parties seemed to recognize that the argument got somewhat heated, which isn't really surprising since political ones almost invariably do, and both said things they shouldn't have. That's not bannable behavior; that might be worth words of censure, but I think if you can recognize afterwards that some things were said that shouldn't have been then you're 90% of the way there. The problem arises when people
don't or
can't recognize that, because that's when you seem to have a problem - and to bring this tangent back, appeared to be the problem with Govindia (again from my very, very passing 'familiarity' with that). He says outrageous, inflammatory shit because that's
tragically the state of political discourse in this country. I can recognize you might have a problem with this because of things in your life, which is understandable, but I'm also certain that he'd be willing to accommodate those if he were aware of them because thus far he's struck me as a reasonable human being.
I'd urge you to give him another chance, and if you really find him as intolerable as you currently think, well, not every extension of an olive branch ends fantastically.
i concede he's a
wee bit of a fuckboy, but he'll pay for those sins during the skeleton war anyway, which
will clearly win the avatar contest if you all have any taste whatsoever