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It has recently come to my attention that some people in NationStates have began to support or advocate support for Nazi military operations, under the idea that it should be alright because "it's just a game", a pathetic excuse that in the minds of some apparently excuses anything and has recently led to an 'anything goes' atmosphere when it comes to gameplay. The line must be drawn somewhere by someone.

It is impossible in any context or circumstance to separate the name "Nazi" from the real-life horrors and atrocities committed under Nazi Germany, and to suggest that there is...that just because this is a game that somehow it's more acceptable to associate with and support those that roleplay or perhaps even sympathize with Nazis, is an abhorrent insult to the victims who suffered under their reign of terror, many of whom's only 'crime' was being judged 'inferior' because they were different in some way. Further, Wintrean princples and values of openness, tolerance, and acceptance are completely incompatible with the Nazi ideology of bigotry and hatred. It's inconceivable that someone who cherishes the principles of this region as a Citizen would willingly support or collaborate with those who stand for the complete opposite.

For those reasons, I propose the Nazi Collaboration Prohibition Act, which would make it a high crime for Citizens to serve in the leadership of any Nazi region or organization or to provide support for their military operations. I implore the Storting to take a stand for Wintrean values and against the out-of-control gameplay opportunism and pass this Act as soon as possible.

The Nazi Collaboration Prohibition Act

1) This Act shall be cited as The Nazi Collaboration Prohibition Act.

2) The following shall be added to the Code of Criminal Laws:

5.1.7 Providing support to Nazi regions and organizations by serving in their leadership or participating in their military operations.

Why don`t we just bomb some Nazis, instead calling our citizens criminals, just because our methods and opinions are not the same?

I would propose something, in my beliefs, better.
Further more I would suggest to revoke their citizenship.
By creating a Nameless List, where Wintreaths millitary officials, or te goverments SS, keeps records like this. You know, names, dates, IP's. everything

That is, if there's a secret service, Harry. We don't know. It wouldn't be secret if we did

That is, if there's a secret service, Harry. We don't know. It wouldn't be secret if we did

Well hope never dies, if it exists mate :p If it doesnt exist, then lets built one. 

Oh, and registering people in a list because of their political ideas is a crime in some countries. I don't think that we'd like to commit crimes.

The process of revoking someone's Citizenship would actually be to try them based on Wintrean law...which is what I'm proposing here.

The process of revoking someone's Citizenship would actually be to try them based on Wintrean law...which is what I'm proposing here.

Yeah, what I am saying is that you should add that on the Foundamental laws of Wintreath. or even better release a Decree to issue that. And also, ow ow, create the list "The ones that we dont talk about" or "nameless something dark like that

Oh, and registering people in a list because of their political ideas is a crime in some countries. I don't think that we'd like to commit crimes.

Well when it comes to Nazis you got to be damn sure, that I have to keep notes.

The Fundamental Laws provides a high degree of protection for Citizens, including the right to appeal any decision to revoke their Citizenship. The correct procedure is to establish a law forbidding collaboration with Nazis and then give anyone that is found to violate it in the future a proper court case as they are entitled to.

We should avoid summary revocations of Citizenship in all but extraordinary or emergency circumstances.

The Fundamental Laws provides a high degree of protection for Citizens, including the right to appeal any decision to revoke their Citizenship. The correct procedure is to establish a law forbidding collaboration with Nazis and then give anyone that is found to violate it in the future a proper court case as they are entitled to.

We should avoid summary revocations of Citizenship in all but extraordinary or emergency circumstances.

Well lets make history.

All of these things being discussed are quite ironically nationalist, which is more than a little bit fucked.

All of these things being discussed are quite ironically nationalist, which is more than a little bit fucked.

Actually in the other hand, my friend, we do need this. We all need as leaders of our nations to keep the same political path. In my belief, since our military alignment is currently stated as "Defenders", it is vital for us, to defend Wintreath and the world from Neo-Nazis, spreading around NS. It is our responsobillity to create a safe and balanced refion for our citizens, where they can find peace, and nations of players working together. It may indeed look nationalistic, but trust me, it is regionalistic.

Nationalistic is a term that means different things...
I meant it as in drawing people in to common ideals based on where they live...

Nationalistic is a term that means different things...
I meant it as in drawing people in to common ideals based on where they live...

I see. I hope I did not offend you, by quoting you!

Oh no worries! Clarity is always good!

I'm completely against any ideology in which someone exercises aggression or violence, instigates either or both, or pushes forth any type of agenda of hatred simply because they see a person as less than them.  I do also think that it goes against Wintreath's own ideology to have anyone in a position agree with that type of agenda.

At the same time, though, many of those victims have either passed on themselves, or moved on from the horrors of that time period.  The only thing that prevents someone from moving on is when they're constantly reminded of it nonstop, which is why I never agree with broadcasting and rebroadcasting tragic events year after year such as with 9/11.  The intention may be good, but all you're doing is reminding people that they lost loved ones, and you're constantly renewing those feelings of depression and possibly anger towards those responsible.

I see any "Nazi" group on Nationstates in the same light.  I don't care what their reasoning is for calling themselves such, whether it was just in fun or they thought it cool to fashion themselves with that name.  Choosing the name of a group that committed mass genocide is both being ignorant of the extent of that group's evil, and uncalled for.  But the fact that Nationstates doesn't censor names like that is baffling as well, since they as a political nation-building site should know that people are going to take advantage of that.

So in short, I completely support this proposal.  I think if anyone chooses to be a part of a nazi group while representing Wintreath, then there should be some kind of consequence, considering it's something that completely goes against everything Wintreath stands for.

I hate the idea of punishing for something like that, but at the same time every chosen action has a consequence, and this would just be the consequence for the action of being a part of a group named after what might as well be a massive terrorist group that murdered its own people.