Pages: 1 [2] 3

The South Pacific
Posts: 33 Views: 16017

Wintermoot
  • Regional Stability Squad
  • The Greyscale Magi-Monk
  • I'm assuming since some of the news is outdated that we're late in getting a copy. :P

    Ah well, thanks for the update in any case. :)


    I went all the way to Cassadega to commune with the dead
    They said "You'd better look alive"
    Wintermoot
    • The Greyscale Magi-Monk
    • Posts: 19,525
    • Karma: 9,733
    • Weather: ❄️
    • Regional Stability Squad
    • Pronouns
      He/Him/His
      Orientation
      Demisexual
      Wintreath Nation
      Logged
    Kris Montresor
  • Village Drifter
  • Not really, the Update itself was written late.
    Kris Montresor
    Delegate of the South Pacific
    Kris Montresor
    • Posts: 16
    • Karma: 2
    • Village Drifter
    • Pronouns
      He/Him/His
      Familial House
      Montresor
      Representing
      Logged
    Kris Montresor
  • Village Drifter
  • Hi Wintreath!
    I have just been appointed as the new ambassador from the South Pacific, so expect the embassy to be a bit more active from now on. :)
    1 person likes this post: Katie
    Kris Montresor
    Delegate of the South Pacific
    Kris Montresor
    • Posts: 16
    • Karma: 2
    • Village Drifter
    • Pronouns
      He/Him/His
      Familial House
      Montresor
      Representing
      Logged
    Wintermoot
  • Regional Stability Squad
  • The Greyscale Magi-Monk
  • Welcome back to Wintreath! :)

    You should probably re-register for ambassadorship, so that we can formally list you as TSP's ambassador. :)


    I went all the way to Cassadega to commune with the dead
    They said "You'd better look alive"
    Wintermoot
    • The Greyscale Magi-Monk
    • Posts: 19,525
    • Karma: 9,733
    • Weather: ❄️
    • Regional Stability Squad
    • Pronouns
      He/Him/His
      Orientation
      Demisexual
      Wintreath Nation
      Logged
    Kris Montresor
  • Village Drifter
  • Coalition of The South Pacific
    From the Ministry of Foreign Affairs

    The Cabinet of the South Pacific has issued today a statement officially recognising the Osiris Fraternal Order and hoping that eventually close relations will follow. Since the dissolution of the Kemetic Republic relations between Osiris and the South Pacific had been officially non-existent, although the Cabinet had been constantly evaluating the situation in Osiris.

    Lately there had been conversations between Osirian and South Pacific officials about an resuming diplomatic relations, and in addition the New Southern Army had been cooperating with the Sekhmet Legion in several missions. This was mentioned in the Cabinet's statement, and we hope that the relationship between the South Pacific and Osiris will eventually be as strong as it once was.

    To read the SPINN article go here: http://forums.thesouthpacific.org/topic/5929-breaking-tsp-formally-recognizes-the-ofo/#entry117767
    Kris Montresor
    Delegate of the South Pacific
    Kris Montresor
    • Posts: 16
    • Karma: 2
    • Village Drifter
    • Pronouns
      He/Him/His
      Familial House
      Montresor
      Representing
      Logged
    Wintermoot
  • Regional Stability Squad
  • The Greyscale Magi-Monk
  • Thank you for the update.


    I went all the way to Cassadega to commune with the dead
    They said "You'd better look alive"
    Wintermoot
    • The Greyscale Magi-Monk
    • Posts: 19,525
    • Karma: 9,733
    • Weather: ❄️
    • Regional Stability Squad
    • Pronouns
      He/Him/His
      Orientation
      Demisexual
      Wintreath Nation
      Logged
    Kris Montresor
  • Village Drifter
  • Coalition of The South Pacific
    From the Office of the Vice Delegate

    Quite a lot has happened recently in the South Pacific. Something worthy of mention is the dissolution of the ambassador corps by Foreign Minister Glen-Rhodes, with plans of a more effective and cost-effective foreign service. We have full confidence that this will be a positive change for our region. A more important event however is the recent move we had. Due to a dispute involving how Hileville ran the administrative team, our previous forum was taken down and we had to look for a new one. The South Pacific now has a myBB forum with Tsunamy, Glen-Rhodes and Kringalia as administrators.

    We encourage you check out our new forum and register!


    http://thesouthpacific.x10.mx/index.php/
    Kris Montresor
    Delegate of the South Pacific
    Kris Montresor
    • Posts: 16
    • Karma: 2
    • Village Drifter
    • Pronouns
      He/Him/His
      Familial House
      Montresor
      Representing
      Logged
    Wintermoot
  • Regional Stability Squad
  • The Greyscale Magi-Monk
  • It would appear your new forums are in a state of chaos at the moment...none of the images work, and clicking a forum seems to take you back to the forum index page. :P


    I went all the way to Cassadega to commune with the dead
    They said "You'd better look alive"
    Wintermoot
    • The Greyscale Magi-Monk
    • Posts: 19,525
    • Karma: 9,733
    • Weather: ❄️
    • Regional Stability Squad
    • Pronouns
      He/Him/His
      Orientation
      Demisexual
      Wintreath Nation
      Logged
    Eluvatar
  • Village Drifter
  • Hello!

    We're back :P
    1 person likes this post: Katie

    Eluvatar
    • Posts: 7
    • Karma: 2
    • I watch the watchmen
    • Village Drifter
    • Representing
      Logged
    Wintermoot
  • Regional Stability Squad
  • The Greyscale Magi-Monk
  • Welcome back. :P


    I went all the way to Cassadega to commune with the dead
    They said "You'd better look alive"
    Wintermoot
    • The Greyscale Magi-Monk
    • Posts: 19,525
    • Karma: 9,733
    • Weather: ❄️
    • Regional Stability Squad
    • Pronouns
      He/Him/His
      Orientation
      Demisexual
      Wintreath Nation
      Logged
    Eluvatar
  • Village Drifter
  • While this is not an "official" update, I think I'll let you guys know that we recently had an election, in which tsunamy was elected Delegate, Penguin was elected Vice Delegate, Unibot was re-elected as Chair of the Assembly, Raven was elected Minister of Foreign Affairs, Kringalia was elected Minister of Regional Affairs, and Crimson was elected Minister of the Army.

    I'm one of Raven's two deputies :)

    Eluvatar
    • Posts: 7
    • Karma: 2
    • I watch the watchmen
    • Village Drifter
    • Representing
      Logged
    Eluvatar
  • Village Drifter
  • A Conversation in #wintreath, info summarized below

    As a visitor who has often given voting theory a great deal of thought, your consideration of alternative voting systems drew my attention.

    While I can't post in the actual topic, I hope it's not gauche to provide some thoughts and information for your reference here. My intent is to be helpful and informative, not to steer your policy in any particular direction, of course.

    Firstly I wanted to make clear that proportional voting and preferential voting are not exactly the same thing. There's at least one proportional voting method which is not preferential, and a number of possible preferential voting methods which are not proportional.

    Specifically, the Single Non-Transferable Vote, where you vote for one candidate and the N (in your case 5, I understand) candidates with the most votes are seated, is a proportional method, but is not a preferential method. (To be clear, it can have non-proportional results, but if voters vote tactically, the results will be proportionate. This is particularly easy to achieve by allowing voters to change their votes based on the results so far, allowing politically active voters to vote for say their second choice of their first choice is doing well).

    As to preferential methods which are not proportional, there are a number of possible examples, but I don't see a need to mention them, as they have not been brought up in your discussions.

    Another point to clarify is that Alternate Vote and Single Transferable Vote are two words for the same system in different contexts. "Alternate Vote" and "Instant Runoff Vote" are a single-winner election method which is identical to the Single Transferable Vote used to elect a single seat. (In the United Kingdom it was proposed to use the "Alternate Vote" for elections within individual constituencies, which would each elect 1 MP to the House of Commons. It would not have made the system proportional, but it would have reduced the so-called "spoiler" effect, whereby say having two left-wing parties with significant support will lead to an enormous advantage in favor of the united right-wing party.)

    Secondly, I wanted to point out that TNP no longer uses the Single Transferable Vote because the elections it was used for, of an Executive Council, were discontinued. (They were at the discretion of the Delegate).

    Thirdly, speaking of STV in practical terms, there are a couple variations on it one could implement. One point on which I would generally suggest NationStates regions interested in using it not imitate real life polities using STV would be on random vs fractional ballot transfers. Because the number of votes for a candidate in a NationStates election will never be in the thousands, and will generally be a one-to-two digit number, selecting ballots to transfer in the case of meeting quota would easily lead to highly arbitrary results. On this basis, when I ran STV elections in TNP, I used Gulliver's fractional-transfer STV counting program to evaluate the results of a series of TNP Executive Council Elections:

    July 2012Results TopicCounting Sheet
    August 2012Results TopicCounting Sheet
    November 2012Results TopicCounting Sheet
    February 2013Results TopicCounting Sheet

    In these several elections, votes were cast by nations resident in TNP using this ballot page, where the link they received would automatically enter their nation name and secret ballot code, identifying them as the nation in NationStates. The ballot page shows the options in the fourth and final such election to this day. The ballot starts by defaulting all candidates as the Nth preference (where N is the number of candidates), which is basically equivalent to not voting for them at all.

    I have linked the counting sheets directly, as well as the results topics, as said topics have since been archived and cannot be viewed without registering an account on The North Pacific forum.

    How To Count The Votes

    I will be returning to revise this post to be easier to read later. If this should not be posted here, please be unafraid to delete it (I have made backup of the text for my records, in case I feel a need to reproduce it elsewhere in other circumstances).
    1 person likes this post: Jone
    « Last Edit: December 14, 2014, 08:53:21 AM by Eluvatar »

    Eluvatar
    • Posts: 7
    • Karma: 2
    • I watch the watchmen
    • Village Drifter
    • Representing
      Logged
    Wintermoot
  • Regional Stability Squad
  • The Greyscale Magi-Monk
  • Thanks for your thoughts and input into our discussions of changing our voting system...they're appreciated, and I don't see any problem with them being posted here. I just wish I had more to respond with to such a well-constructed post. :P


    I went all the way to Cassadega to commune with the dead
    They said "You'd better look alive"
    Wintermoot
    • The Greyscale Magi-Monk
    • Posts: 19,525
    • Karma: 9,733
    • Weather: ❄️
    • Regional Stability Squad
    • Pronouns
      He/Him/His
      Orientation
      Demisexual
      Wintreath Nation
      Logged
    Raven
  • Village Drifter
  • Delegate of The North Pacific
  • I confess, the very thought of handling a new voting system terrifies me.
    Joshua Ravenclaw
    Delegate of The North Pacific
    Sovereign of the Kingdom of Alexandria
    Raven
    • Delegate of The North Pacific
    • Posts: 9
    • Karma: 1
    • Village Drifter
    • Pronouns
      He/Him/His
      Familial House
      Ravenclaw
      Logged
    Katie
  • Former Citizen
  • The Cheese
  • Hey Y’all! *dusts off this ancient consulate* I am Katie, your brand-new ambassador from the South Pacific! I’ve been reading through some older FA updates from this thread and needless to say: y’all haven’t seen activity from us in a long time! I sincerely hope to have great fun here in Wintreath, and I will make sure this consulate is at least semi-active again  :P
    2 people like this post: Wintermoot, BraveSirRobin
    Lady Katherine Ostergaard
    Countess of Osterfell, Matriarch of the Noble House of Ostergaard


    Resumé
    Katie
    • The Cheese
    • Posts: 730
    • Karma: 722
    • hoh
    • Former Citizen
    • Pronouns
      She/Her/Hers
      Familial House
      Ostergaard
      Wintreath Nation
      Logged
     
    Pages: 1 [2] 3