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[PASSED] Grammar Amendment Simplification Act
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    1. This act shall be cited as the Grammar Amendment Simplification Act.

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    2. Errors of punctuation, capitalization, and formatting in statutory and procedural legislation may henceforth be amended at the discretion of the Speaker of the Underhusen and Chairperson of the Overhusen subject to the restrictions outlined below.
         2.1 Formatting is defined as precedent-defined layout of legislation, limited to numbering, section titling, and citations of other laws.
         2.2 Correction of these errors may not alter the plain meaning of the legislation.
         2.3 This power does not extend to Constitutional Law, which shall continue to only be amendable pursuant to Section VII of the Fundamental Laws.
         2.4 The Speaker of the Underhusen may only amend statutory and Underhusen procedural legislation.
         2.5 The Chairperson of the Overhusen may only amend statutory and Overhusen procedural legislation.
    3. The Speaker or Chairperson must report any proposed changes to both their respective chamber and Monarch and must ensure a minimum of 48 hours passes between making the report and making any such changes.
    4. Where either the Monarch or a member of the Storting should dispute the change, the Speaker or Chairperson may either explain their changes or present the amendments as proposed legislation to the appropriate chamber.
         4.1 Should there be no dispute for the minimum 48 hours, or should all disputation be withdrawn, the Speaker or Chairperson may make their amendments.
         4.2 All members of the Storting, as well as the Monarch, reserve the right to contest any changes made at any time within the session during which the legislation was considered, so long as the legislation is not an amendment to the procedural rules of another chamber.
         4.3 Should a dispute still exist after 48 hours the Speaker or Chairman must bring the amendment to a vote.

    This is now at a vote, Skrifa may vote Aye, Nay or Abstain. @Chanku, @Elbbsas, @Katie, @Gabrielle
    « Last Edit: June 28, 2019, 08:08:08 AM by North »
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  • No problems here. Aye.
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    I've been considering how I wanted to vote in this, and I will be honest I haven't been that much of a fan of this bill for a variety of reasons. I dislike giving anyone the power to alter laws in any capacity without a review by the Storting. As such this was not likely to get my vote as an Aye due to that. I also am concerned about potential constitutional issues, but it could easily be argued that the edit was to fix clerical issues, therefore I don't necessarily view this as that strong.

    My main issue involves 4.2 and 4.3. 4.2 is worded incredibly vague and is somewhat confusing, I assume it is referring to the bringing of amendment legislation to the Storting, which if I am reading it right, means that any member of the Storting (or the Monarch) can contest the changes at any time if made through legislation.  Additionally, I have two issues with 4.3. The first being that do the changes only get voted on by one chamber or by both? If it's only one chamber, that effectively means the other chamber gets no input as well, if it's both it might want to be clarified in the law. Additionally, this would mean that changes by the Overhusen Chairperson would only be voted on by the Overhusen, and be introduced in the Overhusen -- which would somewhat violate the non-introduction restriction of the Overhusen. I also worry that it gives the monarch undue influence in the chambers, as it gives them more control over legislation -- especially in the Underhusen, however it is limited to changes so I am less worried about it.
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  • I’m so sorry! I could’ve sworn I voted on this sooner, but I was wrong.

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  • And I shall vote nay. Chanku's reasoning swayed me though I do wish that had been brought up earlier. With that I declare that the Ayes have it, the Ayes have it.

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    Ayes: 3
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    Abstain: 0
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