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The Lore of Mithra
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  • Hello everyone! Me and a friend of mine have been working for a couple of months on a world for a book he is writing, the world being called Mithra. Its a lot of work though and I always feel its helpful to get some feedback, and since you guys are always helpful I thought it would be nice to dump some of our work here time to time. So if you feel like critiquing and helping with our world building, feel free! Oh, and feel free to ask any questions about this text dump. I'll probably do more posts about it if people are interested.
    Just a quick reference on the story before we get into this: Eclenia, which will be mentioned below, is the main nation of the story where the protagonist comes from. Escaria is the nation that has long been the rival of Eclenia for a variety of reasons.
    Without further ado, here are some of the religions we're working on in Mithra:

    Siglaeism:
    Siglaeism is the main religion of the story. It is a monotheistic faith centered around the worship of the Attendants of God, who has left the world for unclear reasons. In God’s place, the Attendants control the world and everything in it. The number of Attendants depends on who you ask, as there are three major branches of Siglaeism in the world. The main branch of the faith are the Auskelists, who believe in 8 Attendants and of the superiority of Raguel, the Eagle, Lord of the Skies, as the main Attendant. The branch followed by the main character of the story is the Felbrist branch, which believes in 7 Attendants, headed by Uriel, the Lion, Lord of the Earth. They do not recognize Raguel as an Attendant There are many differences between these two branches, the Auskelists have very patriarchal societies which was a major cause of the split, as Eclenian society, the nation where the Felbrists are based out of, is very egalitarian. These and other cultural differences spilled out into theological disputes and have only heightened the tension between Eclenia and its major rival, the Auskelist Escaria. There is also the Haykalists, based out of the nation of Aspya, recognize only 5 Attendants and whose faith has been warped by the native religion of the land.

    Worship in the faith is controlled by the Incarnates of each Attendant. All Attendants have Incarnates except for Remiel, the Snake, He Who Speaks to God. These incarnates control in essence almost their own churches. With their own variable rites and rituals, and spheres of control. While most Incarnates either look to spiritual matters and upkeep their temples, some have very interesting methods of worship. The Incarnate and priests of Jerahmeel, Lord of the Oceans, the Great Destroyer, are pirates. They constantly prowl the seas, consulting Jerahmeel to see if he is displeased with any ships they stumble upon. If they believe that Jerahmeel is displeased with them for some slight, they will zealously try to destroy the offender. This has made them extraordinarily rich, both from plunder and from tithes given to them in hope that Jerahmeel will be pleased by their offering. They even maintain their own state on an island off the coast of Eclenia which they maintain through a combination of zealotry, naval power, and copious bribes.

    Qurayism

    Qurayism is the polytheistic faith that defines the southern continent. Qurayists believe in three gods: Melef, the father, god of the Sky. Saban, the son, god of Fire and the Sun. And Maufa, the Daughter, goddess of the Earth and the Moon. Qurayists believe that Melef was created into this world by another, stronger, primordial force to bring order to the chaos. Here he created the earth and the sky. The world was bleak and dreary and there was no life. So Melef created his two children, Saban and Maufa. Saban created the Sun as his abode, rose great mountains, made every valley and hill, while Maufa created the oceans and gave life to the world, creating every plant and animal and made her abode, the moon. She was still lonely however, having only her Father and Brother, and so from a small piece of the moon, she made humanity to revel in creation with them. One day however, a man brought sin into the world and Melef grew angry with humanity and cast them down to the earth below. Here he gave them war, pestilence, famine, death, anger and jealousy. Maufa, seeing the plight of her creation and the chaos caused among them by her father, gave them hope, patience, love and empathy. She gave them agriculture and writing and allowed them to establish civilization to fight against the curses her father gave to them. Finally, Saban, seeing all that had happened, gave the Humans a small piece of the sun, just as his sister had made them from a piece of the moon and called it fire. Though it warmed them, it could burn them. Though it could cook food it could burn it. Though it could be used to create great works it could destroy them just the same.

    There are two sects of the Qurayism, the main sect, who are simply called Qurayists, and the Sabanites, who have a long history within Qurayism. The Qurayists mainly worship Mother Maufa, who gave them life and only rarely pray to Saban and Melef. Sabanites worship Father Saban, who created them in the great fire that ended a war long ago between the Qurayists and the Sarvanists, who will be discussed later. The two sects get along well, as the Qurayists preach peace and the Sabanites war. The Qurayists provide the Sabanites with all they need to survive, food, water and shelter, while the Sabanites focus on war, as they and their ancestors were cursed by the great weapon they called upon to defeat the Sarvanists. They both live in their countries, and only priests of each sect may speak to the other.

    Sarvanism

    Sarvanists are perhaps the most zealous, militant and esoteric of all religions in Mithra. Their religious traditions are obscure and almost unknown by outsiders. What is known is that they believe in two Gods, the God of Light and Order, Haleeb, and the God of Darkness and Chaos, Timmi. They believe that humanity was once in harmony with Haleeb, until sin was created by humanity and it soon became more of liability than an advantage in Haleeb’s eternal war against Timmi. Haleeb then created the earth and told humanity that if their good deeds did not outweigh their sin, Haleeb would destroy the world and curse every soul, living and dead to Timmi and eternal torture. Sarvanists often go on holy wars to stamp out what they see as sin in the world, mostly against the Qurayists, who they see as a decadent and corrupt influence on the world. They have gone so far as to war against Siglaeists though.

    Kalevala

    The religion of the warlike Bothnians, and often called the Religion of Blood by outsiders, Kalevala is a polytheistic faith focused on three gods, Ukonusko, the god of Blood, who requires blood to be spilled for his amusement or he will destroy the world. His wife, Akka, who tries to sooth Ukonusko’s rage, and often fails. Finally Louhi, Ukonusko’s slave, God of the Elves. He was once the powerful and mighty god of the Elves but was brought down by his own hubris and was enslaved by Ukonusko. He is used to justify the Bothnian enslavement of the elves and is often used by the elves themselves to justify their own enslavement. Kalevala is a religion of blood, and all able bodied Bothnian men. (Not that any aren’t, you’re either able bodied or dead.)

    Kalevala is based around not only the gods however, but many legendary heroes who have done great deeds in the name of Ukonusko, and villains who have defied his will. The interpretation of who is a hero and who is a villain can seem a bit warped to outsiders however. For example, the hero Juhannus was the only son of Ukonusko and Akka. They had many daughters however, and the human race was started when Juhannus raped all of his sisters. The children they gave birth to became the first humans. The greatest villain of Kalevala is Marjatta, the child born of an affair between Akka and Louhi, hated by both Gods and Men. Akka had him raised in secret but he was almost impossible to hide owing to his innate magical power. Hating Ukonusko for his mistreatment of him he became a great healer, stopping brave Bothnians from spill their blood and that of others in the name of Ukonusko. During the great war that happened when Ukonusko fought Louhi and humans fought elves, he made all living beings immortal, weakening Ukonusko, who eventually split the world asunder to defeat Louhi and enslave him. Marjatta’s immortality allowed both humanity and elves to survive. Ukonusko then reversed this “curse” and allowed both races to die again, but told the Bothnians to work to repay the blood he was not given during this time or he would destroy humanity. With these stories in mind, the extremely blood mindset of the Bothnians come through, as their faith causes almost all men to be warriors in their culture.

    Well if you actually made it this far, congratulations! I hope you found it interesting and we would love some feedback! If you have any questions feel free to ask. Thanks for reading :D
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  • I reached the section on Kalevala and my only thought was: BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD! SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!

    But seriously though it's very well developed, I would recommend to flesh out the histories a little more as well as the relevant nations.

    E.g. My world of Royan has five major Empires and forty odd Kingdoms, each with a unique culture and history. Everyone has their own pantheons, some more limited than others, but I have almost fully fleshed each individual force out. I also have hand drawn maps for the continents and smaller settlements, technology and magic is strictly defined, as well as the powers and characteristics of the gods of Emelnÿa Eganÿama[Immortal Empire in Old Salterian/Imperial] I am known for how deeply developed my worlds are though, so you don't need to try and go as in depth as I do lol. (Mostly because I am more obsessed with world building than an author probably should be.)
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  • Eclenia and Escaria are fleshed out, as well as many other things, but we have about 20 google docs going and I haven't bothered to summarize anything else :P Thanks for the feedback though! I'm interested in the world you have though, you should share it with the region as well!
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  • Eclenia and Escaria are fleshed out, as well as many other things, but we have about 20 google docs going and I haven't bothered to summarize anything else :P Thanks for the feedback though! I'm interested in the world you have though, you should share it with the region as well!

    The more google docs the better.... You can never not have enough!

    I will one day, I just need to shift a lot of the Info out of my head and onto paper or keyboard. I can tell you though that a side novel of mine utilizes a number of characters that appear on Royan. The novel is titled The Red Cross and you can find it on Wattpad under the profile Travaller. (Cue shameless self advertising)
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  • Eclenia and Escaria are fleshed out, as well as many other things, but we have about 20 google docs going and I haven't bothered to summarize anything else :P Thanks for the feedback though! I'm interested in the world you have though, you should share it with the region as well!

    The more google docs the better.... You can never not have enough!

    I will one day, I just need to shift a lot of the Info out of my head and onto paper or keyboard. I can tell you though that a side novel of mine utilizes a number of characters that appear on Royan. The novel is titled The Red Cross and you can find it on Wattpad under the profile Travaller. (Cue shameless self advertising)

    Will do!
    Except its midnight and I really should be getting to sleep xD
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  • Eclenia and Escaria are fleshed out, as well as many other things, but we have about 20 google docs going and I haven't bothered to summarize anything else :P Thanks for the feedback though! I'm interested in the world you have though, you should share it with the region as well!

    The more google docs the better.... You can never not have enough!

    I will one day, I just need to shift a lot of the Info out of my head and onto paper or keyboard. I can tell you though that a side novel of mine utilizes a number of characters that appear on Royan. The novel is titled The Red Cross and you can find it on Wattpad under the profile Travaller. (Cue shameless self advertising)

    Will do!
    Except its midnight and I really should be getting to sleep xD

    Same tho! I have school tomorrow too...
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  • World building! World building world building WORLD BUILDING!!!

    *coughs*

    I concur with Gatto -- these are cool and just need some fleshing out. I certainly wouldn't object to seeing more of this world. I like the pirates priests of Jerahmeel, and the whole Siglaeism religion looks fun. Especially with two different version being held up.

    I am a bit curious about your naming scheme. Do you have any particular ideas behind your names? I ask because your two main nations -- Eclenia and Escaria -- are very similar. They have the same start and ends and syllable count. Was this done intentionally? Because if not, things will get very confusing very quickly, and confusing things are not fun to read.
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  • World building! World building world building WORLD BUILDING!!!

    *coughs*

    I concur with Gatto -- these are cool and just need some fleshing out. I certainly wouldn't object to seeing more of this world. I like the pirates priests of Jerahmeel, and the whole Siglaeism religion looks fun. Especially with two different version being held up.

    I am a bit curious about your naming scheme. Do you have any particular ideas behind your names? I ask because your two main nations -- Eclenia and Escaria -- are very similar. They have the same start and ends and syllable count. Was this done intentionally? Because if not, things will get very confusing very quickly, and confusing things are not fun to read.
    Well Eclenia was originally called Eclen(Like England) but the problem soon became that we were both calling it Eclenia anyway so we just decided to roll with it. No idea where my friend came up with Escaria though.
    Happy to see some interest though! Perhaps I'll do a post on Eclenia and Escaria soon enough!
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  • What's up comrades! just doing a quick little introduction, I'm Fortis and I'm that friend of Crush who is writing the story and started the work on this universe. That was almost a year ago now that I think about it...  :o Anyways Crush started working with me to help in the world building process back in January and has become an absolutely integral member of my small circle of friends whom I consult, and by integral member I mean he's basically my partner in this, when it comes to topics of culture and religion he is a master. Since you guys seem to enjoy the fluff we may very well post more and hear your thoughts.  :D
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  • Hello comrades, it's Fortis again  :wave: Haven't been active at all on here but I was rather busy with school and other such BS. But since you seemed to be interested in the universe of Mithra which I created back in October of 2016 and my good friend Crush started working with me on it in January of this year, I am bringing you another installment of lore, today we are taking an in-depth look at the nation from which the protagonists of my story hail, The great Eclenian Empire.
     
    PS The nation once known as Escaria is now known as Burjion.
     
     
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  • Since you guys were interested before

    @Elbbsas @Gattoartico and since you commented on Invictus @Gerrick

    We would love to hear your guy's opinions! :D
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  • Well I will say it is a very well thought out history. I like the creativity with names and places. I am also going to say that you do wonderful job of both telling a story and a timeline in one thing, it makes the timeline just that much more interesting and delightful. (I also just think this world is wonderful in general)

    My only question is if the Eclenian armies were feudal and ill trained then where did the necessary training come from? A ruler cannot simply will his army into a more professional and better trained force without someone who is experienced and well trained to train the army. For now I'm assuming it was a Haragladian general who trained the army.

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  • My only question is if the Eclenian armies were feudal and ill trained then where did the necessary training come from? A ruler cannot simply will his army into a more professional and better trained force without someone who is experienced and well trained to train the army. For now I'm assuming it was a Haragladian general who trained the army.

    I'm glad you asked that. While the vast majority of military forces were ill-trained, even then there were knights serving the various lords who were decent soldiers at least. The ones that would have been responsible for training the new Ophirian reformed army was a mixture of Haragladian advisors (Good guess there) Aspyian mercenaries (Aspyia is a nation on the eastern continent of Orliend), and most notably some knights of the Royal Retinue, and the Order of the Rose who I will discuss more at a later date.

    One specific part of the Ophirian reform I passed over talking about is actually how knights changed in Eclenia, becoming the Knights of the Realm which basically required at least one child from every noble family in Eclenia to be turned over to the kingdom to train from the age of 5 until they're 18 at which time they take a final exam which a good 1 in 3 applicants fail to pass. The Knights of the Realm could be compared to spartans. It came from the Haragladian model but Ophirian took it to the extreme. It launched a very well entrenched proud military tradition among the nobility. Even among the common populace soldiers in the Royal army were highly respected, it's a feature of Eclenian society that has remained constant throughout history from this time.

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  • Interesting! I notice that you are using Common Era and Before Common Era in this for dating. Any historical significance for using these acronyms?

    In regards to the Steel Oaks -- how fast do they grow? I wonder because if they are slow, people cutting them down would probably drive them extinct fairly fast.

    I like the personification of the Eclenian Empire. Plus, the name change is nice and much less confusing. The urban legends ("it is said the flowers which grow on the field once as white as snow now bloom a scarlet red") are a nice touch as well.

    Good grief, Emperor Marius pulled off a lot. Now I'm wondering if he's someone's PC or if someone has been messing with the history books. Because, seriously, what was an Emperor doing messing with alchemy. Does he not have people to take care of it? How did he have the time to spare to learn it and experiment with it between ruling and leading armies and such? Is alchemy just something that people *do* in this world? Why didn't other people discover this -- who dedicated their lives to the study of alchemy? And finally, what the smeg was he doing that resulted in discovering an explosive?!

    Basically, Marius is either very good at the propaganda, or he is a PC who has to do everything, and I only think that because he apparently discovered black powder.

    Huh. "The Free Elven State of Madedla"? Is that just a name, or is there some sneaky casual fantasy elements in this?
    The Burjionese Knights quickly charged forward to relieve their comrades going across the field, passing by a few little red flags which little did they know marked the location of hidden black powder bombs which were detonated via Elven fire mages. The ground exploded blasting horses and knights to pieces.
    Casual fantasy it is. Excellent! I like the dragons and hope they aren't extinct as of "now." (Or maybe the casual fantasy showed up in previous snips and I just forgot/didn't notice).

    This was fun to read, although the battles and alliances weren't my cup of tea. Now the question is how this leads into Invictus -- and I will look forward to the answer!
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  • Glad you enjoyed the read Elbbsas.

    To answer your first question for dates thus far I'm using Earth's Gregorian calendar, but eventually I will have calendars specifically for Mithra.
    In regards to the Steel Oaks -- how fast do they grow? I wonder because if they are slow, people cutting them down would probably drive them extinct fairly fast.
    That's actually something I hadn't taken into consideration yet, so that'll be something for me to mull over in my skull

    Marius did pull off a lot in his long life. Truth be told some of the things he's credited for are not entirely of his doing, mostly in the military campaigns to conquer Antilonica, and to liberate Soeria and Roncales. Though he took part in the planning stages of all these campaigns and led troops on the field there were other generals who won and lost various battles of various sizes throughout the war with Burjion.

    The part about black powder, however, is true. Marius was born a bastard so he for what it was had more time to pursue other things while his cousins did not, he learned the trade of smithing to an extent (As his mother and grandfather were masters of it) But his true passion was in alchemy which he quite enjoyed experimenting with, but he didn't discover black powder on a whim, he found half of an ancient document containing the recipe for it, and he then experimented with the portions until he got the explosive compound correct. Of course, the stories just say he was a complete genius and did it on his own.

    And yes the pointy eared princelings are in this world, I'll be doing a post on the races of Mithra relatively soon so that may answer some questions. Also yes Dragons are very much not extinct, the vast majority of them are also as intelligent as humans but I'll explain that more later.

    Once again thanks for reading, glad you enjoyed it, and I hope you have a very good day.  :D
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