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Justinian Ezkantion
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    Have a good day, everyone! =D
    >Implying there aren't any chinese christians

    Where is the dislike button when you need it...
    I would have used it quite a few times on your posts by now...
    Says the guy who publicly exclaimed along with several others that Ainur was being ruined by immigrants.
    Justinian Ezkantion
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    Have a good day, everyone! =D
    >Implying there aren't any chinese christians

    Where is the dislike button when you need it...
    I would have used it quite a few times on your posts by now...
    Says the guy who publicly exclaimed along with several others that Ainur was being ruined by immigrants.
    I don't see the equivalent between people Augustus brought in specifically to hold positions and be loyal to him compared to, you know, normal people seeking a better life. People online coming into a fake region and people in the real world are two completely different things of severely different standing...
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    Justinian Ezkantion
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  • My family decided to celebrate Yule like the New York Jews. Chinese food. Lots and lots of Chinese food.



    Have a good day, everyone! =D
    >Implying there aren't any chinese christians

    Where is the dislike button when you need it...
    I would have used it quite a few times on your posts by now...
    Says the guy who publicly exclaimed along with several others that Ainur was being ruined by immigrants.
    I don't see the equivalent between people Augustus brought in specifically to hold positions and be loyal to him compared to, you know, normal people seeking a better life. People online coming into a fake region and people in the real world are two completely different things of severely different standing...
    You don't see any correlation between this and left leaning parties encouraging immigration so they will become the "immigrant party" and get shitloads of new voters?
    Justinian Ezkantion
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    Gattoartico
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  • My family decided to celebrate Yule like the New York Jews. Chinese food. Lots and lots of Chinese food.



    Have a good day, everyone! =D
    >Implying there aren't any chinese christians

    Where is the dislike button when you need it...
    I would have used it quite a few times on your posts by now...
    Says the guy who publicly exclaimed along with several others that Ainur was being ruined by immigrants.
    I don't see the equivalent between people Augustus brought in specifically to hold positions and be loyal to him compared to, you know, normal people seeking a better life. People online coming into a fake region and people in the real world are two completely different things of severely different standing...
    You don't see any correlation between this and left leaning parties encouraging immigration so they will become the "immigrant party" and get shitloads of new voters?

    My gods.... What have I done?


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  • Obama was the best President since Clinton. :D
    Clinton was a corporate shill that deregulated telecommunications and created the massive media conglomerates we know today. Obama supported the fucking Muslim Brotherhood. What kind of fuckup would support the Muslim Brotherhood? We should be actively supressing and destroying politicized Islam all over the world, not supporting it! Thankfully we have been spared at least four years of future Democrap rule.

    You're right, how dare he support the Democratically elected government of Egypt, America does not approve so fuck the people of Egypt and fuck the Democratic process, let's go in there and topple a government! Cause it's worked so well everytime America has meddled in other countries politics, just look at Iran.
    Erdogan was democratically elected also, and now he is a dictator. Morsi would have done the exact same thing if given the chance. We must destroy islamism wherever it is no matter the circumstance. And we must annihilate the gulf states that support it. The middle east must be civilized if there is to be any peace. As for Iran, do you think Mosaddegh was some kind of lovely saint that was only doing what was best for his country and got put down by the evil British? Think again, he was a self-declared socialist and a tool for soviet control. Were he not deposed he would have turned Iran commie, and they'd be in the exact same position as they are today prosperity wise.

    Who the fuck elected you to be the arbiter of the world? You and your mindset is everything wrong with America.
    No, it's your peacenik mindset that will leave us all under an islamic caliphate, a fate worse than death really. Thankfully the world is beginning to wake up and turn against those who would destroy our civilization.

    I'm genuinely curious why you think some parts of Islam turned violent. Why the US, France, the UK, all these countries are targets. And most importantly, why you think it is your job to police the world. Where is your outrage for the Rohingya genocide? Do you even know about it? I do. I live in this part of the world. I know people from Myanmar. I know some one whose uncle was burned alive by Buddhist monks there. Do you know anyone whose muslim? Because I do. I work with them to defend my country, I rely on them to watch my back. And so far, almost everyone I've met are perfectly normal people. People who don't care I'm white in a majority chinese and malay country. People who dont care I'm Catholic. Who dont care I'm bi. Great people with flaws and hopes and dreams. People who are just as disgusted by ISIS and extremist Islam as you are. And dont get me wrong, I hate ISIS. I hate everything it stands for. Everything it represents. But I have nothing against Islam. And to say Islam and violence go hand in hand is both revisionist and ignorant.

    My muslim friends hate ISIS but they are just as disgusted by the rhetoric you spout. Of Peace as weakness. Of Islam as evil. You want an army to fight extremist Islam and ISIS? Great, I know of roughly a billion people who are hate ISIS just as much as you do. But they will turn a blind eye and do nothing because you decided to be muslim was to be inherently evil. They are people to. Its not weakness to recognize that.

    I recognize that you view the middle east as barbaric. Foreign. I get it. But it is not your place to change it. Come in with an army to "civilize" people, and you strengthen what you wish to destroy. I get chills down my spine when people use language like that. "We just want peace. Agree with us entirely or be destroyed. Adopt our culture and way of life or be destroyed. Become "civilized" or we will destroy you." Where have I heard that before? "We dont hate the Africans, we dont approve of slavery, we just want to civilize them." "We just want to civilize Zululand." "We just want to civilize the Cherokee, the Iroquois, the natives." After the history of your people, after everything you've done, the atrocities you have committed, the blood on your hands, the sins you have to atone for even now in your own countries you DO NOT GET to judge us. To judge Malaysia, to judge Islam, to judge Singapore, to judge things you know nothing about and that you, arguably, created. Want to know whose fault ISIS is? Dont look at Islam. Look at old glory.

    And last thing, you're right, Mosaddegh was no saint but do you honestly think that the Shah was better? And what gave the UK and the US the right to decide for Iran? To just go "No,you dont get to choose your own leaders, your own fate, your own mistakes and your own history."
    I Hope You Have A Nice Day :]
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  • My family decided to celebrate Yule like the New York Jews. Chinese food. Lots and lots of Chinese food.



    Have a good day, everyone! =D
    >Implying there aren't any chinese christians

    Where is the dislike button when you need it...
    I would have used it quite a few times on your posts by now...
    Says the guy who publicly exclaimed along with several others that Ainur was being ruined by immigrants.
    I don't see the equivalent between people Augustus brought in specifically to hold positions and be loyal to him compared to, you know, normal people seeking a better life. People online coming into a fake region and people in the real world are two completely different things of severely different standing...
    You don't see any correlation between this and left leaning parties encouraging immigration so they will become the "immigrant party" and get shitloads of new voters?

    Because that worked for the Democrats. Labour. The Lib Dems. The New Democrats.
    I Hope You Have A Nice Day :]
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    Gattoartico
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    End of Time

    I remember there in the dawn,
    When the suns rose and rose,
    That never could I know,
    A sight more grand than this.

    Now I sit here in the dusk,
    While the suns die and die,
    That never will I see a sight more sad,
    Or a sight more beautiful.
    Gattoartico
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  • Ehh, I would blame the actual people straddling the flaming line...one never can suspect when that that will happen. :P


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  • Using South Africa is a really bad example. Everyone except the San were nasty little shits. The Zulus and Xhosas hated each other and constantly warred against each other to steal this country from the San. And, you know, people from these cultures stone "witches" to death even today. Were the Dutch, English and French settlers any better? Not much. But I am goddamned tired of the rest of the world judging me, calling me a Nazi, simply for being a Boer, and not even knowing the full story of our history as South Africans.

    In die donker ure skink net duiwels nog 'n dop, 
    Satan sit saam sy kinders en kyk hoe kom die son op. 
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  • Using South Africa is a really bad example. Everyone except the San were nasty little shits. The Zulus and Xhosas hated each other and constantly warred against each other to steal this country from the San. And, you know, people from these cultures stone "witches" to death even today. Were the Dutch, English and French settlers any better? Not much. But I am goddamned tired of the rest of the world judging me, calling me a Nazi, simply for being a Boer, and not even knowing the full story of our history as South Africans.
    There were French settlers in South Africa?
    Hunh. The more you know.
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  • The French Huguenots, yes.
    In die donker ure skink net duiwels nog 'n dop, 
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    Gattoartico
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  • Using South Africa is a really bad example. Everyone except the San were nasty little shits. The Zulus and Xhosas hated each other and constantly warred against each other to steal this country from the San. And, you know, people from these cultures stone "witches" to death even today. Were the Dutch, English and French settlers any better? Not much. But I am goddamned tired of the rest of the world judging me, calling me a Nazi, simply for being a Boer, and not even knowing the full story of our history as South Africans.

    I know a guy who lives in South Africa, he's pretty cool.

    Nazi Boers were during the war. Why they still hold that against the current generations I will never know. People are weird.


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    When the suns rose and rose,
    That never could I know,
    A sight more grand than this.

    Now I sit here in the dusk,
    While the suns die and die,
    That never will I see a sight more sad,
    Or a sight more beautiful.
    Gattoartico
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  • That's one more thing. A shit load of Afrikaners were part of the struggle against apartheid. They either spent their lives in prison, or were quietly executed.
    In die donker ure skink net duiwels nog 'n dop, 
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    Arenado
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  • Using South Africa is a really bad example. Everyone except the San were nasty little shits. The Zulus and Xhosas hated each other and constantly warred against each other to steal this country from the San. And, you know, people from these cultures stone "witches" to death even today. Were the Dutch, English and French settlers any better? Not much. But I am goddamned tired of the rest of the world judging me, calling me a Nazi, simply for being a Boer, and not even knowing the full story of our history as South Africans.

    Well, I'm sorry, but for the record I'm referring to the British in general and one man in particular just deciding to invade Zululand.
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    Justinian Ezkantion
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  • Obama was the best President since Clinton. :D
    Clinton was a corporate shill that deregulated telecommunications and created the massive media conglomerates we know today. Obama supported the fucking Muslim Brotherhood. What kind of fuckup would support the Muslim Brotherhood? We should be actively supressing and destroying politicized Islam all over the world, not supporting it! Thankfully we have been spared at least four years of future Democrap rule.

    You're right, how dare he support the Democratically elected government of Egypt, America does not approve so fuck the people of Egypt and fuck the Democratic process, let's go in there and topple a government! Cause it's worked so well everytime America has meddled in other countries politics, just look at Iran.
    Erdogan was democratically elected also, and now he is a dictator. Morsi would have done the exact same thing if given the chance. We must destroy islamism wherever it is no matter the circumstance. And we must annihilate the gulf states that support it. The middle east must be civilized if there is to be any peace. As for Iran, do you think Mosaddegh was some kind of lovely saint that was only doing what was best for his country and got put down by the evil British? Think again, he was a self-declared socialist and a tool for soviet control. Were he not deposed he would have turned Iran commie, and they'd be in the exact same position as they are today prosperity wise.

    Who the fuck elected you to be the arbiter of the world? You and your mindset is everything wrong with America.
    No, it's your peacenik mindset that will leave us all under an islamic caliphate, a fate worse than death really. Thankfully the world is beginning to wake up and turn against those who would destroy our civilization.

    I'm genuinely curious why you think some parts of Islam turned violent. Why the US, France, the UK, all these countries are targets. And most importantly, why you think it is your job to police the world. Where is your outrage for the Rohingya genocide? Do you even know about it? I do. I live in this part of the world. I know people from Myanmar. I know some one whose uncle was burned alive by Buddhist monks there. Do you know anyone whose muslim? Because I do. I work with them to defend my country, I rely on them to watch my back. And so far, almost everyone I've met are perfectly normal people. People who don't care I'm white in a majority chinese and malay country. People who dont care I'm Catholic. Who dont care I'm bi. Great people with flaws and hopes and dreams. People who are just as disgusted by ISIS and extremist Islam as you are. And dont get me wrong, I hate ISIS. I hate everything it stands for. Everything it represents. But I have nothing against Islam. And to say Islam and violence go hand in hand is both revisionist and ignorant.

    My muslim friends hate ISIS but they are just as disgusted by the rhetoric you spout. Of Peace as weakness. Of Islam as evil. You want an army to fight extremist Islam and ISIS? Great, I know of roughly a billion people who are hate ISIS just as much as you do. But they will turn a blind eye and do nothing because you decided to be muslim was to be inherently evil. They are people to. Its not weakness to recognize that.

    I recognize that you view the middle east as barbaric. Foreign. I get it. But it is not your place to change it. Come in with an army to "civilize" people, and you strengthen what you wish to destroy. I get chills down my spine when people use language like that. "We just want peace. Agree with us entirely or be destroyed. Adopt our culture and way of life or be destroyed. Become "civilized" or we will destroy you." Where have I heard that before? "We dont hate the Africans, we dont approve of slavery, we just want to civilize them." "We just want to civilize Zululand." "We just want to civilize the Cherokee, the Iroquois, the natives." After the history of your people, after everything you've done, the atrocities you have committed, the blood on your hands, the sins you have to atone for even now in your own countries you DO NOT GET to judge us. To judge Malaysia, to judge Islam, to judge Singapore, to judge things you know nothing about and that you, arguably, created. Want to know whose fault ISIS is? Dont look at Islam. Look at old glory.

    And last thing, you're right, Mosaddegh was no saint but do you honestly think that the Shah was better? And what gave the UK and the US the right to decide for Iran? To just go "No,you dont get to choose your own leaders, your own fate, your own mistakes and your own history."
    If our enemies do not operate on moral grounds, why should we? Why should we cut off the heads of the hydra when we can attack its heart? America has developed into a superpower, and with that comes the right of the strong to dominate the weak. Do you think our enemies will also stop intervening in affairs? No. The gulf states will continue to do their best to create an Islamic resurgence, and we must do our best to stop them. It is time to create a new, universal world order so that our species can progress to its full potential. The only question is whether our ideals or the ideals of the inbred oil lords and their leftist puppets will prevail.
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