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All those who contributed to my article get a copy of The Rejected Times! Thankyou for your contribution Moot.

Issue XXII, June 12 2014.

Editor's Note

I'm very pleased with this edition. It begins with Joe Bob's must-read feature (which includes commentary from some very well respected players like Grub, Anumia and Big Tex) and ends with Gruenberg's magnificent and very sharp piece on the National Sovereignty movement in the World Assembly.

Between this sandwich of perfection includes some clever opinions articles from Afforess and myself, plus some new stories on recent events that have broken this week in the Sinkers, among other regions. FIFA? Nazis? Lazarus v. Osiris?

You can't go wrong with this issue!


[big][big]How to Build a Region[/big][/big]
FEATURE | JOE BOBS

The Rejected Times asked some of the leading minds in NationStates, what's the key to a successful region?

As we all know, creating a successful region is tough. Like start-up businesses, the majority will fail within the first year, the majority in the first month or so. So how can the entrepreneurial would-be founder make their region succeed? To find out The Rejected Times has asked some people who have got it right.

Westwind TWP Delegate, Former TNP Delegate and Emeritus Rex of Equilism

The keys to a region's success?
 
While a region's success needs a number of elements, it varies depending upon the situation and no short statement will do it proper justice.  Still I can boil it down to one thing.
 
Leadership.
 
Without leadership, a region has no direction. Without leadership, there will be no recruitment and without recruitment, a dead region. Without leadership, there is no drive to get things done.  No will to engage the interests of the region's community...whether that be gameplay, roleplay, government, foreign affairs, general conversation, whatever.
 
All the ingredients that go into a great and successful region start and end with leadership. Leadership can be singular, or it can be communal.  Leadership can be lead from above, it can be delegated out, or it can be distributed. But without it the region withers.

Grub Founder of 10,000 Islands

There is a lot that goes into building & maintaining a good region, but in the end it all comes down to the people. There is a lot of turnover in NationStates, but the 10000 Islands has been fortunate enough to have a lot of great nations over the years & they have been a big part of the reason for our success.

Besides the great residents of the 10000 Islands, we also run the region based off of our regional Constitution. Our set of rules have set the framework for an active & functioning region. Even beyond the rules we employ, our overall desire to help others has helped to make us successful. While we are a large region now, that wasn't always the case. Back when we had just a handful of nations, we were invaded & almost lost the region. At the time, since we were so small, I went around asking other regions, like the Rejected Realms, among others, for help. The Rejected Realms & those other regions dropped what they were doing & helped our tiny region fight off the then largest invader army in the game. Ever since then we have been doing our best to help others like we were once helped by outsiders. Since that time we have helped to free or successfully protect regions in over 2,000 successful missions. The great nations of the 10000 Islands not only want to have fun in this game, but also do a lot to help others whenever possible & that also helps bring us together.

Shizensky Founder of Renegade Islands Alliance

I think the most important part is having the right people involved, and making sure they're doing what they're good at. Even then, nobody expected anybody to get anything right the first time. We took a really fluid approach to growing this time, and we've adapted so many policies mid-swing until we felt like it hit a place where it works. That means we made a lot of mistakes, so again it comes back to having the right people. If we had people that took every mistake personally, or every suggestion that they need to change as a personal insult, we couldn't have done anything.

Oh, and it takes time, too. A lot of it. I don't think we would have held together in the start if I didn't have a job that lets me hang out on NS for a good chunk of the day. It's pretty difficult to sum it all up in just a paragraph - I feel like I'm leaving out a lot of important stuff and not making enough shout outs to recognize how awesome some of the people involved have been, but that's probably the best I can provide by keeping it short.

Wintermoot Founder and Monarch of Wintreath

In this case success is in the eye of the beholder...some would consider a ten-nation region with friends a success and that's cool. For building a large gameplay region I would say the keys to success are vision, time, and effort, with friends and experience also being a huge help. As I always tell our new recruits, NationStates is a game where you get back what you put into it, and region-building is no different. If you aren't putting in time and effort as the region's leader, how are you going to build the region and convince others to put their own time into it? Vision is also absolutely important for any leader. Anybody wanting to start a region or lead a region should be made to detail their vision for the region, and if they can't do that, they shouldn't be running the region. And finally, friends and experience...I can't begin to tell how helpful having a group of friends with me was when I started Wintreath, and how handy the experience I gained elsewhere was. I would recommend anyone wanting to start a gameplay region spend at least six months in an established region, preferably gaining some experience in the Executive of that region as well, at least as a Minister. I've seen people grow regions without help or experience, but it's fairly rare from what I've seen.

Goddess Relief Office Founder of Yggdrasil

I think the answer to your question depends on how you measure success. No two regions are the same. Some are more interested in foreign affairs, while some are well known for focusing their efforts internally. Some are gameplay regions while others are RP regions. What makes each enduring, depends on whether there is a core group of members loyal to it and dedicated to its success. And for that to happen: in the beginning few months of the region's founding, the founder must be actively engaged and there must be some separation between the region and external groups so the young population could develop independently. That's my 2 cents.

Avakael Founder and Grand Chancellor of the Independent Order

I've had a few goes at trying to build a region before now. This is the only one that has ever been remotely successful. The difference between this one and the other tries all have come down primarily to persistent recruitment- I never really had the time or motivation to run a permanent recruitment campaign, or the connections to get a copy of a script. I had the money to spare for stamps, though, and I've been using them non stop recruiting new nations since I founded this one. Refounds don't matter too much, I think I've sent one block of 10k stamps and had 6 nations join.

In terms of an invader perspective, I'd say if you're setting up a region for a specific purpose, you want to appeal to nations that would be friendly to that purpose. If you want new players that'll be interested in military action, you have to send out a telegram asking for nations interested in military action. That does tend to turn off a decent sized audience that might be looking for something different, though. If you have no such purpose, don't try to cut out the audience like that- write a telegram that pretty much everyone is going to agree with. I'd also note that 99% of new nations are going to have no understanding of gameplay and roleplay conventions, such as how regional governments are run on an individuals as part of a nation instead of a nations as part of a region basis, and how gameplay military action in NationStates works through the World Assembly and is generally directed at other regions, not other nations.

BearNation Founder and Delegate of Gay

What makes for a suceessful region? IMHO, you need three core things:
(1) a mission (usually something that can be explained in one sentence);
(2) effective, active leadership, particularly in the person of the Founder, but ideally also in the WA Delegate and any ruling body you may have elected; and
(3) patience and advertizing.

First, the mission statement: there are thousands of friendly, liberal democracies out there, so such is not enough to make your region stand out from the pack. You need a mission that is specialized enough so that it is unique or nearly so. In Gay, our mission is to provide a safe haven for LGBTQ folks and straight allies such that one can be oneself and express oneself without fear of discrimination.. There are other Gay regions, but none with that mission statement.

Second, it is critical that the region HAVE a Founder (so as not to have to worry about invaders) and that said Founder takes an active part in the life of the region. I have seen time and again regions of 100+ members lose the majority of their memberships and activity when the leader lapses into inactivity or CTEs or even hands control over to a person whose style is radically different (and usually less engaged). If you are Founderless, bite the bullet and refound, even if that means creating a new region for your nations.

Third, have patience. A new region will tend to grow the most quickly, but not necessarily. When I founded Philosophy 115, for the first couple of years we mostly had the core membership of 3 nations. Slowly we learned how to practice effective advertizing (word of mouth is still the best way), including (later) trading embassies and ambassadors, but also advertizing in the feeders and sinkers while that was still possible and nowadays with mass mailings and NS++. Membership will go up and down in the short run, but ideally it will inch up over time such that the new lows are higher than the old lows, as well as the new highs being higher than the previous highs.

And finally, don't be so serious that you forget to have fun and form bonds of friendship within the region. Your mission may get them in through the front door, but they will leave (or become inactive and CTE) through the back door if there's not a personal reason to stay.

Northern Chittowa One of five Founding Fathers of the GRA, Co-Founder of the FRA

To build a successful region you need a core group of workers - people who are willing to put in the time and effort to build something from scratch, even if it takes a lot of time and regardless of problems along the way. It also requires a bit of dictatorship in the early days. Elections for a position in a committee to discuss the process for running the elections to a ruling body is a distraction that is not needed in the early days of a region. Get the structure of the region in place, with an active native base, and the diplomacy will follow later.

Tim Founder and Minister of Defence for Spiritus

I think that the key to a region's success is, first and foremost, a strong core of 'builders'. I wouldn't have been able to build Spiritus if it were not for the support of people like Cormac and Salaxalans in making the region prosper in its early days. It's really difficult to do something like that alone, and it can be seen that Spiritus didn't really take off past 100 nations before both of those fantastic individuals got involved in Spiritus and helped me continue it. Aside from that, it's all about how you market your region. Make sure the World Factbook Entry is appealing to the eye, the Regional Message Board is active, and your recruitment telegram has something unique that sets it apart from the dozens of others. I think that's about it, at least from me.

Big Tex Founder, Governor and Delegate of Texas

After much thought, the secret of Texas' (and any region's) success consists of a variety of factors. In no particular order:

• Make the region as open as possible. This means not only on access, but on information. Tell the citizens what is going on within the region and encourage them to participate. Make the region one of inclusion, not exclusion. Secrets are only fun for those in on them, but do not make for a fun region. Be open.

• Talk to everyone, especially new arrivals to the region. The way we describe the game to players who ask for help is to wax philosophical with the following explanation. The gist of the entire game is words. Generally you "give" words by posting and sending telegrams; you "get" words in return. If you don't say anything to anyone then often no one will say anything to you. Everybody's style is different. Many are content to sit back and watch, many like to speak up and make their opinions known or comment on things in the game, their lives or whatever.

• Take notes. After 12 years of playing this game and meeting thousands of people, we cannot possibly recall it all. So, we take notes so we can review who we know and what we know about them. This is vital if you talk to everyone.

Those are some of, what we think, are the important parts of making a successful, lasting region. It may not work for everyone, but it has worked well for us and Texas.

Anumia 'The One, The Allfather' of Europeia

The most important thing about getting started is getting people talking. They don't necessarily have to be -working-, but they need to do more than spam. You can have the most efficient Government, but you need a -community- for a region to have staying power. A reason to log in daily and participate whether you are in the Government or not. Building friendships amongst the citizenry and according due respect especially for good works gives your region core strength. As for the Government and work in general: make it exciting, make it prestigious. Flattery and titles are no substitute; you need to develop a genuine feeling of prestige and engagement for those who are putting in effort to improve the region.

All in all, you want your region to feel like home for the people who reside within. If your community is a place to love and enjoy, people will naturally show up day after day to participate and make it better. Fostering that sensation is key to regional growth and longevity - if it feels like "just another region", it will not be nearly as successful.

So what are the lessons for all the wannabe founders out there? What do you need to make a region work? Leadership, having the right people, creating a constitution, putting the time in, vision, experience, an active founder, dedication and loyalty, persistent recruitment, finding your audience, patience, bonding, effective prioritization, image and presentation, openness, communication, memory, activities, integration… no wonder so many fail, it’s a tall order ticking all these boxes!

There is another ingredient I'd like to add: a unique selling point (USP). All the most successful regions have something original that makes them stand out from the crowd, whether it's representing a real world location (such as Canada, Texas and Belgium), playing a specific role within NS (such as Gatesville or Gay), or a particular theme or vision (like Wintreath, Region Inc or Mordor). If no one else is doing it, you have an advantage. If they are, make sure you do it better! Another key that I find is often forgotten: word of mouth. Yes, many players are recruited into a region, but a lot of the players that stay active are those who come as ambassadors or visitors, especially if you offer something different to their home region.

I would like to give a huge thanks to all the contributors for this article and the work they have put into their statements. Hopefully this will inspire some would-be founders, and we may see another great community launched into the rich tapestry that is NationStates.


[big][big]Stopping the Madness [/big][/big]
Should we boycott NS Marriages?
EDITORIAL | UNIBOT


Unibot breaks the “sweetheart” on NS Marriages…

Three marriage proposals. A week after becoming “single” again on NationStates, a player (who shall remain anonymous) received three marriage proposals. Yes, a week. There’s a point when good fun crosses the line and becomes systemic harassment – and I think that might just take the marital rubicon. Stories like these remind me that my experience as a male player on NationStates is radically different than an openly female player.

Remarkably, I don’t have most of the game closing in on me like a wake of vultures, or at least when they are, it’s after something I’ve done politically, not because of my gender or my sexuality.

I have to confess that most of this article will stand as a personal about-face for myself on my own prior beliefs regarding marriages on NationStates. I’ve been married twice on NationStates and I don’t intend to pursue a hat-trick any longer. Instead, I would like to share my reasoning with you as to why I won’t be pursuing a third marriage (besides the fact that it is incredibly tacky to continue to remarry) -- and I hope after reading, you too will be convinced that it is time to boycott this archaic social practice once and forevermore.

Certainly some marriages are indeed happy on NationStates. Individual cases have proved to be constructive, collaborative and playful relationships. However, individual cases set social expectations – and this is where the social practice of marriage goes terribly wrong in NationStates. Frequently, newer, male players see weddings for the first time and an expectation is built in their mind: I need a wife. However, as you will quickly realize, there are not enough women in NationStates around to satisfy this high demand, which only escalates the problem of accommodating a mob of male players pursuing marriages to sate some dire self-esteem issues.

These marriages aren’t about formalizing or recognizing some long-time friendship or partnership… no, no, no, you don’t even need to know the person to ask to marry them! Because it’s never about who you marry, but the fact that you’re married, period. Hence why men on NationStates barely wait to learn a female player’s nation name before asking them to marry them – because it’s about asking them first and sealing the deal, not about getting to know someone. This perpetuates the hawkish, aggressive state of affairs which I highlighted in the beginning of this article: a sad, pathetic status quo of young men, tolling around, hoping to fish a new shiny “wife-thing” from the pond.

Is this the kind of user experience we want for female players? Nay, it sounds like it would be incredibly harassing and downright annoying to experience first-hand.

The "million dollar question" that lies before us is how do we positively change the gender relations in NationStates?

I believe that the only true option is boycotting the practice of marriage in NationStates. In the case of monarchial and imperialist communities, where marriage plays an integral part in the politicking and the system of governance, the solution is less clear, of course. However, in Gameplay in general, boycotting can serve as a greater movement. Absolutely, it is a possibility that some of us are capable of some sort of respectful, pseudo-relationship in NationStates – however, it is also those some of us who set the standards of Gameplay and capture the imagination of newer players. Without being the change that we want to see in NationStates, we are not going to able to “break the cycle”.

On this note, I should say even if we accomplish this collective about-face on the issue of marriage, there will still be a load of issues with sexism that we will have yet to have addressed in NationStates Gameplay, but at the very least, eliminating the practice of marriage will remove one area where it directly and obviously affects the user experience of female players.


[big][big]FIFA World Cup comes to NationStates![/big][/big]
COMMENTARY | TRR NEWS



The FIFA World Cup may begin tomorrow in Brazil, but some regions in NationStates have taken it upon themselves to bring the game to NationStates as well.

Three regions, The Rejected Realms, Lazarus and The South Pacific, all close friends and allies, will be observing the FIFA World Cup hoping to achieve victory or at the very least celebrate and cheer on one of the many teams competing in the international sporting event.

This unique cultural activity began as a suggestion from Unibot, Delegate of The Rejected Realms and Libetarian Republics, Officer of Internal Affairs in The Rejected Realms (who initially suggested a FIFA-related poll). Each of the involved regions was given four days to choose which team they would support during the FIFA World Cup and all three regions agreed to not choose to support the home team and expected winner, Brazil.

“I just thought it seemed like a fun idea,” says Unibot, “I’ve never had a team in the FIFA World Cup who I could support on a partisan basis – Canadians aren’t exactly known for their football. It’s going to be a blast getting to cheer on “my” team for once”.

The Rejected Realms chose England as their regional team with 40.7% supporting the English in a regional poll held last week.

“Couldn’t have found a better fit for The Rejected Realms,” says Unibot delightedly, “not only are a number of our contributing members, English, but our region feels very English. We’ve got an enviable public broadcasting service, a collective stiff upper lip and a penchant for complaining about the weather from time to time, or at the very least, complaining about something!”

Lazarus, likewise, chose Germany after a long, enthusiastic regional discussion on the tournament.

“I'm glad that Lazarus, The Rejected Realms, and The South Pacific are able to come together in a friendly competition about the World Cup,” Funkadelia tells The Rejected Times.

Funkadelia, the Vice Chairman, explained that the choice was a natural one for Lazarus, because Germany is the home country of Marx and Engels, the fathers of Communism.

“Personally, I am excited for some friendly competition with TRR and TSP!” says Funkadelia.

Meanwhile, The South Pacific will be donning blue, white … and orange during the FIFA World Cup, in honour of the Dutch. In real life, of course, The Netherlands played a major role in colonizing the actual South Pacific. The South Pacific took a vote, via regional poll and decided to support The Netherlands with a narrow lead (32.5%) over the other popular choice, The United States (26.5%).

Kringalia, Delegate of The South Pacific, shared his enthusiasm for the tournament with The Rejected Times over a Dutch breakfast (which could put a diabetic into the hospital).

“I am really excited about this activity,” says Kringalia, “The South Pacific has chosen to support the Netherlands in the FIFA World Cup and this will be a great opportunity to unite as a region and celebrate this awesome sporting event. I’m also glad that we are able to join Lazarus and the Rejected Realms in this celebration and wish the best of luck to their teams as well”.

The delegate also admitted his love for Amsterdam, having visited there once.

“It was so quiet and relaxing,” says Kringalia, “and so many people used bikes instead of cars”.

The first matches for the representative teams begin on Friday and carry through till Monday…

[TSP] Netherlands v. Spain. June 13, 3:00 PM EST.
[TRR] England v. Italy. June 14, 6:00 PM EST.
[LAZ] Germany v. Portugal. June 16, Noon EST.


[big][big]TRR, Osiris Agree to Milestone Non-Aggression Pact[/big][/big]
COMMENTARY | KOGVURON

The Rejected Realms and The Osiris Fraternal Order have agreed to a Non-Aggression Pact. The treaty, which was ratified on June 9th in Osiris and on June 11th in TRR, provides for reciprocal diplomatic recognition and non-aggression. The act passed with similar numbers in both regions: 13-5 in The Rejected Realms and 13-7 in Osiris.

For some, the treaty represents the triumph of "pan-sinkerism" over traditional defender-raider lines. TRR and Osiris, on opposite sides of the military spectrum, seem to be setting aside their military differences in hopes of closer GCR cooperation. The benefits of the treaty were touted in both regions, as the resultant increased security and political recognition were seen as mutually beneficial. In TRR especially, this seemed to be the case, with very little resistance to the treaty coming from the citizenry. In fact, the pact was proposed by The Rejected Realm's delegate, Unibot, often cited as one of the leading moralist defenders.

In Osiris, however, some citizens believed that the treaty was not in the region's best interests. It sparked rather contentious debate between supporters and detractors of the bill. The pro-pact faction was led by Cormac, Vizier of Osiris, who ardently supported and defended the bill, saying that Osiris's relations with other sinkers were more important than military partisanship. The opposition was led by a variety of Osirans, with Venico and Cassius Cerebella being two of its major detractors. The major reason cited by them was the perceived uselessness of the treaty, with Venico saying, "I see no reason for this treaty... Useless treaties are useless."

Overall, this treaty provides a welcomed improvement in relations between Osiris and The Rejected Realms.

Unibot told The Rejected Times that he was "excited" about the new security pact.

"Today, The Rejected Realms returns to recognizing Osiris" says Unibot, "and it can do so on fresh footing between neighbors who act like neighbors. It's a great thing to see. Unlike The Empire, which lead Osiris with self-serving, dysfunctional personal politics, The Osiris Fraternal Order has proven itself to be a more stable, lawful government for whom we are happy to share a welcoming mat. We both put aside our reservations for a shared goal: peace and as I told the Assembly, I'll take peace. Peace is good".

We here at The Rejected Times hope that this pact is the start of a new chapter for two regions that have often been at odds with each other in the past.


[big][big]Osiris severs relations with Lazarus[/big][/big]
Anti-Imperialism sparks diplomatic controversy
COMMENTARY | TRR STAFF


Osirans hold their shoes to Lazarus.

Osiris has severed relations with Lazarus. Calling Lazarus’s path towards anti-imperialism, a threat and insult to Osiris, Severisen, Pharaoh of Osiris, in a recent open letter, criticized the rumored internal discussion in Lazarus which concerned plans to use propaganda and even direct force against Osiris’s fellow sister sinker, Balder. Open hostility with virtually all of Osiris’s allies, made the move both easy and necessary, according to the Pharaoh.

“We believe that the People's Republic of Lazarus has chosen of its own free will to take a stance of hostility toward our allies and indeed, toward the principles that our region has chosen to adopt,” says Cormac, Vizier of Osiris.

“We will not tolerate this stance of open hostility and this stated intention to take aggressive action against our allies and still make pretense that there can be friendship between our regions”.

Milograd, Director of Lazarene Foreign Affairs, told The Rejected Times that the move had been inevitable.

“It would've happened sooner or later,” says Milograd, “our relationship fell in stature once George was purged and Cormac was allowed to start advocating for a coup of us despite being Vizier of Osiris, and, really, it's no secret that the PRL opposes imperialist regions”.

When asked whether the allegations against Lazarus (that it hadn’t “ruled out” direct force against Balder) were true or not, Milograd laughed.

“No LOL,” says Milograd, who refused the presses from running his statement without the “LOL” retained, purely for the sake of justice, we were assured.

“There is absolutely no place where the LLA is seriously considered being used offensively against Balder, or anywhere, at that,” says Milograd.

Later, the next day, Milograd called out Osiris’s move publicly on The North Pacific boards, denying the allegations of interregional aggression and condemning the lack of prior diplomatic dialogue.

“Our commitment to non-violence is as strong as it was at the time we created embassies with Osiris,” says Milograd unwaveringly, “We were never granted the courtesy of clarifying your worries. You, as a diplomat from Osiris, should've spoken to us if you were concerned, and we would've cleared up the matter fairly quickly. But you avoided that”.

Since the time of the announcement, officials have clarified that one of the major concerns surrounding Lazarus had been Funkadelia’s anti-imperialist rhetoric displayed while on the campaign trail. The outspoken Vice Chairman is considered the front-runner to win the ongoing elections in Lazarus, which began today – the same day as the announcement. Some Lazarenes that spoke with us suggested that this move might be an attempt by Osiris to sway the elections, while others still suggested that plan could see the opposite outcome as Lazarus, the mother sinker, coalesces together around what they consider to be a diplomatic insult.


[big][big]How Regions Get Growth Wrong[/big][/big]
OPINION | AFFORESS

Writing for "The Leaky Bucket" series...

If you're in a user-created regions (any region that was not the default starting point for your nation), you've probably wondered how you can make your region bigger. Bigger is better. Most regional administrations have recruitment as a core theme. Some even have "Recruitment Ministries" or departments, with individuals dedicated to recruiting new members to their fine regions. Recruitment is "good". I have never seen a region that actively discourages new members from joining (password regions excluded).

As a preface: I'm not going to tackle whether bigger regions are better regions, today. I don't think bigger is universally better. But due to the way NationStates is designed, in general, bigger is better. This is a whole different tangent, and there are design flaws (or features!) that make this the case.

So how do regions get bigger? It's the economy recruitment, stupid! Your region needs new members to gain population. There are a variety of ways to recruit new members, and most of them involve telegrams of some form. The reader has doubtless received one of these finely crafted instruments of manipulation, with its siren call to move to greener pastures (and likely deleted it, posthaste). Ever since recruitment was legalized (most recruitment was illegal before 2011) nearly every region worth the term, and many more that don't, have launched tens of thousands of these telegrams in the hopes that a lucky few will hit their mark, swaying users to their fair shore. Nowadays, the number of recruitment telegrams being sent is enough to blot out the sun in most areas of NationStates. (At the peak of recruitment, all telegram communication was being slowed to a crawl due to the massive volume of recruitment telegrams. Recent changes in how telegrams work has alleviated this)

The standard solution to this barrage of telegrams is for regions to fight fire with even more fire. After all, if they can increase the number of telegrams they send, then they have more chances someone will see theirs. This ends up as a lesson in what the tragedy of the commons is. While it is entirely reasonable for individual regions to increase recruitment through increased volume, the net effect is that all the regions spin their wheels ever-faster, to simply stay in the same place. (This behavior has been observed in biology and has been given the name "The Red Queen Hypothesis", which lifts its name from a character in Alice in Wonderland)

This maelstrom, while entertaining for the average bystander, causes regions to miss the point of recruitment in the first place. Recruitment isn't simply for recruitment's sake, the original goal was to make your region bigger, to increase its population. Recruitment is only half of the equation. Every day, nations cease-to-exist. After 28 days of inactivity, their nation is vaporized, leaving behind nothing more than dust and memories. And these nations are ultimately ignored, even though they are the reason your region is shrinking. Recruitment can't expand your region if you are losing members to attrition. Filling a leaky bucket is an endeavor in pointlessness. The faster you pour water in, the faster it exits out the bottom. The same is true with regions, the more members they have, the more members die each day.

Why do people quit NationStates? Did they just forget how awesome the site is? If a player took enough time to read your recruitment telegram and move to your region, why didn't the region take the energy to reciprocate that? Why didn't you collect the contact information for the player (email addresses or chat handles)? No a forum doesn't count - the forums most regions have on NationStates are pure garbage. If your region isn't taking the same time to actually meet, get to know, and talk to its new recruits, as it does filling the leaky bucket, why are you surprised with the results?


[big][big]Nazi Europe Invaded[/big][/big]
War on Nazis Rolls On...
COMMENTARY | JOE BOBS


Propaganda from the Front...

On June 3rd, Nazi Europe was invaded by a united force from The North Pacific, The UIAF (i.e., The New Inquisition, The Land of Kings and Emperors and Albion), The ISRA forces of Osiris and Balder, Europeia, Lone Wolves United and Kantrias, with reinforcements from Mazeria, The Red Fleet and The MT Army.

At the time of going to press, the region is still held by this force and is passworded, under the lead, Tancerlo, with Evil / Blue Wolf masterminding the invasion.

"The raid on NAZI EUROPE is one of the most successful and important missions the NPA has ever done," stated The North Pacific's Minister of Defence, Gladio. "This was an excellent opportunity for us to work with our allies and shows that when we work together we are a force to be reckoned with and it shows our strong commitment to the cause against Nazism."

Opposition to fascism and Nazism in NationStates is a powerful uniting force which is respected by many and has clearly been able to draw a large support base, as Tancerlo has received 94 endorsements, representing one of the largest piles in recent memory. Evil Wolf stated on the RMB that "Today, we have achieved a victory over the impossible. People gave up on ever being able to control this region, and we have proved them wrong". Meanwhile, Vippertooth of the MT Army commented that "something deeply hateful has been allowed to fester here for far too long. For over a decade of Anti-fascist fighting as the leader of The MT Army I have witnessed countless Nazi/Fascist regions fall, this one has been the most resilient but history shows that they all fall in the end, it’s just a matter of time. NE has a long history of heinous crimes/raids against innocent regions and its ruin is way overdue. I am glad to be still around to witness and be a part of this, thank you to all involved, it is an honor to fight alongside each and every one of you. The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do nothing!"

However, this view is not held by all. "Repeal "Liberate NAZI EUROPE" passed this spring under a heightened understanding that the War on Nazis was helping to perpetuate the growth of Nazi communities.

"This absolutely is a step backwards for NationStates Gameplay," says Unibot, Delegate of the Rejected Realms. "We were just moving forward from the "War on Nazis" - admitting to ourselves that aggressive action against Nazi communities feeds the recruitment of Nazi communities. The original "War on Nazis" began because it was squarely in the interests of those involved - independents looking for something to do desperately, imperialists looking to make uncompassionate fools out of of defenders, invaders wanting to use these missions as stepping stones towards Nazism. I thought we had moved past this, but apparently not. The sad reality is these folks always wave the banner of "we're doing the right thing", but they're insulting the memory of those who fought in the War against real Nazi communities, while perpetuating the growth of Nazi communities. This is an international circlejerk, not a compassionate stand against prejudice and genocide".

Whatever the reason behind the invasion, or the effects thereof, it is unlikely to be the final word in the Anti-Fascist movement in NationStates. Wherever the next battle may be, it is likely to be just as controversial.


[big][big]The Rise and Fall of National Sovereignty[/big][/big]
OPINION | GRUENBERG

National sovereignty - the argument that individual nations should have broad authority and the World Assembly restrictions on its powers - took a long time to become established as a reputable argument. The World Assembly, in its current form or in its previous incarnation as the NSUN, is fundamentally designed to erode national sovereignty: it has far more teeth than comparable real world international organizations, with the authority to rewrite national laws and legislate on domestic matters. Despite this - or perhaps in part fuelled by that game mechanics situation - national sovereigntists worked hard to promote the legitimacy of their arguments, and then achieve real success. For a time, their successes were so real that the prevailing conventional wisdom in the World Assembly was decidedly national sovereigntist - "NatSov" - in tone; even that (largely imaginary) biases on the part of moderators were perceived in favour of the camp. Now, that hard work all appears to have been in vain, and the intellectual legacy of national sovereignty lies in tatters. The modern generation of national sovereigntists have no legitimacy.

The rise and fall of national sovereignty in the NSUN/WA is sometimes mapped to the fortunes of Gatesville, easily the most prominent "anti-UN/anti-WA" region. Once a powerful force in gameplay politics and one of the largest UCRs, their influence has relatively declined (and their region relocated entirely). But in truth, Gatesville was not the most significant or successful national sovereigntist region - simply the loudest. Texas and Antarctic Oasis have had more actual impact on the course of the WA and the legitimacy of national sovereignty arguments. Despite labelling every repeal a "victory for Gatesville", the authors of those repeals usually found themselves scratching their heads trying to recall any assistance in drafting or campaigning from the region.

Instead, other factors significantly contributed to the rise of national sovereignty - and those same factors now correlate to its fall. Easily the biggest boon for national sovereignty was the advent of repeals. For the first couple of years of the NSUN, no resolution could be repealed. That legislative process meant that resolutions were destined to pile up and it was impossible for those wanting to limit the NSUN's power to ever push back. Repeals changed that: national sovereigntists soon realized they could use repeals to target resolutions they felt had encroached on national rights. Initial efforts were faltering - a repeal of "The 40 Hour Workweek" failed, a repeal of a resolution legalising prostitution saw it quickly replaced by another  resolution legalising prostitution - but over time the method was refined and became an important component of national sovereigntist policy. Powerhungry Chipmunks is easily the most important player in the entire history of the NSUN/WA game, and the lack of credit he is afforded is a bit embarrassing.

Yet today, it's not even clear that national sovereigntists know how to write repeals. Confronted with the spectacle of an "International Criminal Court", their attempt to repeal it is founded on lies, misunderstandings, and misrepresentations, and yet fails to ever once make the basic principled argument that such a Court should not exist. The intellectual timidity of this approach is matched by the rank lack of principle in the accompanying forum conduct, refusing to even engage in a debate about the merits of the repeal. It is a distressing sign of a lack of faith in one's own beliefs to refuse to open them to public scrutiny - and saddening to recall national sovereigntists of previous eras who would have thirsted for an opportunity to mount a passionate repeal argument against a resolution of the nature of the ICC without being scared of their own shadow.

Nor does modern national sovereignty have any kind of intellectual consistency. Its lead drum-banger is Mousebumples, proudly proclaiming the soubriquet of an "adorably marvellous NatSov" as delegate of Monkey Island, but wielding far more influence through her roles in Europeia, Texas, and as a newly crowned moderator (a role that should seriously call into question conflict of interests; other moderators have avoided such questions by transferring their WA activities to puppets); she has even seen fit to recently publish various "Lessons" on the WA through the Dispatches feature. Yet this is the same player who vigorously campaigned for "Reproductive Freedoms", possibly the least sovereignty friendly resolution in the combined history of the NSUN and WA. Whatever one's personal beliefs, a political philosophy of "national sovereignty, except for  uteruses", makes absolutely no sense. Maybe it's not so surprising there is an unwillingness to mount an intellectual defence of it.

There was a time when national sovereigntists were so successful in the NSUN/WA that moderators had to make up new rules to try to check their power: a rule limiting arguments in repeals, and a rule limiting "blockers" (resolutions preventing the WA from legislating on certain issues, such as nuclear weapons ownership or prostitution legality). Both are to this day vague and difficult to understand, but it's instructive to remember a time when moderators had to struggle to find a way to address the national sovereignty movement. Now, such have their arguments declined in substance and their intellectual consistency withered away that it's impossible to imagine such a situation: if anything, the moderators' disgraceful conduct during the recent attempts to repeal "Rights & Duties of WA States" demonstrate they're inclined quite the reverse tendency.

Until the national sovereignty is willing to reconsider its core principles and work out what it actually stands for, no one should take it seriously. All of which, for those who remember the heyday of the national sovereignty movement, the campaigns of the National Sovereignty Organization, the essays of Frisbeeteria and HotRodia, the legislative successes of Powerhungry Chipmunks and Jey, and the sheer sense of fun which Omigodtheykilledkenny and Yelda added to the game, is not a cause for celebration, but for mourning. Irrespective of one's positions on any particular political issue, or on the total vision of what the WA should do or stand for, seeing such an important bloc shame themselves into nothing is a clear sign of how completely the WA game as a whole has declined.

Awesome! It's nice to see The Rejected Times come to Wintreath, even if it's just one volume.

Moot, if you want TRR Times to be regularly posted in Wintreath, you have only to ask!

Another special posting, Chanku interviewed alongside Loop, in my new supplement!

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This week, Joe Bobs speaks with Winreath's Chanku and The East Pacific's One Infinite Loop. Enjoy!


[big][big]Rising Stars #1: Chanku[/big][/big]
FEATURE | JOE BOBS

The first in a series of interviews with the future leaders of NationStates.

It is easy, with hindsight, to see the paths that led some of the great players of NationStates to the peaks at which they eventually came to reside, but it is far harder to look to the future and judge which players who are currently climbing the ranks within one or more regions will one day be a powerhouse of the game. This series will attempt to do just that. Will we get some wrong? Undoubtedly, yes. I would imagine the vast majority. Players may lose interest, their region may die, or they may stumble into some political blunder that will tarnish them forever. Hopefully, one or two will eventually find themselves in the NationStates Hall of Fame.

The first player under the spotlight is Chanku of Wintreath. Chanku is the Jarl (Minister) of Foreign Affairs, a position he gained following Horse's departure, and was previously Jarl of Information in a hotly competed election which saw the largest turnout in Wintreath history. He has also previously been Speaker of the Underhusen (Congress), a considerable number of positions considering he only joined the game in October last year. Impressively, he combines the activity and energy of youth with leadership and control of his department, all of which suggests we will be seeing more of Chanku in the months and years to come.

JB: What has been the biggest learning curve for you in NationStates?

C: I'm not really sure. I think it was learning more about regions and learning what threatens them.

JB: That's interesting, do you mean specifically threatening in a military sense or in other ways?

C: In a military sense.

JB: Who would you describe as your mentor?

C: To be honest there isn't one single person. Charax, Wintermoot and Daws have definitely helped out a lot.

JB: What has been your biggest challenge so far?

C: I'd say it was me getting the Foreign Affairs Department temporarily; I had to prove myself.

JB: So was Foreign Affairs new ground for you? What are your impressions of diplomacy in NS so far? Any tips you've picked up?

C: Well, to be honest it's rather interesting. A little boring in my opinion, but interesting nonetheless.

JB: Boring and interesting? The paradoxical nature of diplomacy! What advice would you give someone who is coming into the diplomatic field?

C: Well, try and get to know people in the region you end up going to, if you are acting as an ambassador. Also, try and stay on top of things that occur in regions, even if you aren't deployed to that region, or have embassies with them. Try and be on the IRC as often as you can. Finally, tell your superior if you are going away for a few days, because this way they can find someone to take your position (especially if your regional dispatch is almost due) while you are away.

JB: Where do you see yourself in a year’s time?

C: I'm not really sure. More than likely I'll still be in Wintreath and I'll more than likely be the Jarl of Foreign Affairs still, unless I take over a new position.

JB: If you were to move into a second region, where would it be? As someone who has only worked in a user-created region, do the bright lights of the game-created regions hold any attraction to you?

C: Not really. Although if I were to be in a second region it would be the GRA or RIA as they both seem rather nice.

JB: What area of the game would you most like to expand into that you are not currently involved with?

C: Heh, there's a lot. I definitely have room for improvement everywhere. However I would like to expand more into the cultural side of things, and possibly even expand into World Assembly stuff as well.

JB: What advice would you give to newcomers?

C: Find a region that you enjoy being in and get to know people, then find an area you love or enjoy being in, such as Military Gameplay or World Assembly stuff, and work with it. Also if you aren't sure about something, ask.

JB: Thankyou so much for taking part in this interview and being the first in our Rising Stars series!

C: Alright, thanks for the interview, this is a rather large honor in and of itself, as I never expected to be interviewed!

Do you think you have spotted a rising star? Please send your tips and predictions via telegram to Joe Bobs.


[big][big]The Class of 2002 #1: Infinite Loop[/big][/big]
FEATURE | JOE BOBS

The Class of 2002. Those rare few who have survived from the game's creation, or thereabouts, to the present day. Almost twelve years of gameplay, longer than High School, a university degree, or most marriages! These players have carved the culture of NationStates and established many techniques, institutions and tropes that are part of our day to day NS lives in 2014. This series will provide a brief profile of these players and ask for their views on the game.

Infinite Loop is synonymous with The East Pacific and the namesake and architect of Loopism, TEP's own brand of Francoism. Loop arrived in NationStates during the Fark migration of 2002. He is one of the originators of invader-defender gameplay and also one of the initiators of the anti-Nazi movement. He created the first TEP forum and is the region's longest serving Delegate (and was almost made Founder of the region in June 2003).

JB: Who was your biggest influence in the early days?

IL: Well the other Farkers, we were a tight knit group of up to 80 and just the chemistry we had worked well off each other.

JB: Anyone you'd like to name for the record?

IL: Haha, no. Sufficed to say about half are still out there.

JB: What changes to the game do you believe have had the most impact?

IL: Invasion, when we created it the game was tame and nothing happened, invasion was the game's equivalent of the wheel.

JB: I'd have to agree. Recalling that the moderators considered invading equal to griefing in the early days, did you ever think it would become a cornerstone of gameplay? And what do you think to the emergence of imperialism on NationStates?

IL: Yeah, the fact that so many things came about because of invasion, like founders and moderators. It is inevitable, the whole imperialism thing, it lends itself to the mechanics of the game.

JB: What has been the most unexpected event you have witnessed?

IL: Catching Gres using his uber multi-account to attack all those regions when he attacked the EP was the original, but seeing Hell come about from a Nazi Founded region where they fled when the Farkers took Germany, to a semi-socialist region who drove most of the Nazis away.

JB: You were one of the first anti-Nazi raiders in the game. This month saw a large invasion of Nazi Europe. Did you ever think this particular struggle would be continuing almost 12 years later?

IL: Not me, we. The Farkers didn't care for them, still don't, and as long as there are people they will exist, they come from the deep xenophobic part of the reptilian brain. I do stand by the comment that though it is just Israel v Palestine, the Nazis did create hell, therefore they have a right to be there. It is a user created region, not a system seized region.

JB: What has given you the most satisfaction?

IL: The EP,I was technically gone from the game since 2010 after my laptop was stolen and I only had periodic access to the game and the forum, but it survived and prospered. And seeing Farkers still out there working of course.

JB: I think it's fair to say you were very missed in The East Pacific during your absence. There are of course challenges with getting back into the game after a lengthy absence. Do you ever think of throwing in the towel?

IL: Not really. I said long ago that I intended to, if possible, be the last nation to blink out of existence. I appreciate being missed, heck finding out that 5/25 was a holiday about me made me feel good!

JB: What was your biggest disappointment?

IL: Long ago there was an "Election" for a new game mod, they had the election like three times, and I won them all but my association with the Farkers caused me to be passed over. Even with all the good I've done in the game, that one period of 4 to 5 months kept me from being able to really give back and serve the greater good of the game.

JB: Is Modship on the agenda now?

IL: If chosen I would love to serve the game, it is the best way to give back to that which has given me so much fun.

JB: What is your opinion on the current state of affairs? How does it compare?

IL: It's about the same as it ever was, there is an old quote about kids being disrespectful heathens and society being sick and dying and it was said by Plato or somebody ages ago, but it still applies today because things are more the same than they are different.

JB: What advice would you give to others who want to last as long?

IL: Find something you like to do and stick with it, the game is just a validation tool of an offsite forum; sometimes you need to find your offsite forum to be happy and keep it fresh.

JB: An interesting view on the game! The balance between in-game and regional forum is different for different people. It sounds like you're very much in the regional forum camp, is that fair to say?

IL: An NS society grows on its offsite forum, where you make the rules you abide by. The game forums are best for international meetings and seeking advice and assistance.

JB: Who do you believe has made the biggest contribution to NationStates?

IL: Me of course! Honestly I don't think one person has been the biggest influence and I'm not going to do the old 'oh Max because he created the game' thing, NS is the work of thousands of people from all walks of life, to try to single out just one person as best would be foolish. Everyone who logs in every day deserves a pat on the back for this virtual world we have cobbled together from a little marketing ploy meant to sell a few books and keep folks attention for a week or two.

JB: I agree, NationStates is a game of communities for sure. One final question. The East Pacific has seen the rise of the doctrine of Loopism. What do you think of what some may call 'cults of personality' that have arisen around prominent figures such as yourself and Franco's Spain?

IL: Personality cults are not always a bad thing, when you get down to it even religion is a personality cult. People like to have something to follow or provide a theme, and as long as that theme is good then there is benefit to what grows out of it. If you look at it objectively even Franco's Spain had a good side-effect, look how many communities came into being from his brief time in the game. And had I not been in The East Pacific then the modern Rejected Realms may not exist, because Gres got banned trying to overthrow me and Kandarin was able to come to power and lay the groundwork for the Rejected Realms.

JB: Thank you so much for your time Loop, and thank you for being the first to be featured in this series. It's been very interesting and I hope you've enjoyed it too.

Join us in the next edition to hear from another of the Class of 2002.

What unfortunate timing, I have to say.

Regardless of what has happened, Chanku is still one of the first people I think of when I think of Wintrean natives. He's held a variety of positions and gotten his feet wet in many areas, and I think with time, growth and further experience he will go on to do great things. I still very much think he's a rising star, even if he could not continue to be our Jarl of Foreign Affairs now. And sometimes setbacks aren't so bad...Steve Jobs said getting fired from Apple was the best thing to happen to him.

And yes! It would be lovely getting TRR Times! I kinda thought that was something only reserved for GCRs

I'll check with Uni, but I can't see it being a problem. I can post it here for you.

You might have to upgrade TRR back to an embassy though, posting all those long pieces in one thread might get messy. Up to you!

And yeah, we've all had our setbacks over the years, no one would learn if they didn't make mistakes!

Or if there weren't any issues, perhaps it would be a good opportunity to start a new area for both foreign and domestic newspapers. The issue we have had up to now is that we have no papers in the region that are active or would generate enough activity to start a dedicated area, but The Rejected Times is probably the most active publication in the game right now.

Between that, The Wuufu Warble, and perhaps the Wintreath Guardian, it might draw a good bit of activity...if that would be acceptable, of course.

I can't imagine that would be a problem, most of the GCRs have a similar set up.

Wonderful! That's the way it'll be then.

Just let me know if Unibot has objections or anything.

This week, Joe Bobs speaks with UDL's  Applebania  and The Rejected Realms's Crazy Girl.


[big][big]Rising Stars: Applebania[/big][/big]
FEATURE | JOE BOBS

The second in a series of interviews with the future leaders of NationStates.

In the first issue of Rising Stars, we spoke to Chanku of Wintreath. Unfortunately, the next day, Chanku was removed as Jarl of Foreign Affairs due to low activity. We are hoping this is not the beginning of a 'curse of the Rising Stars'! And we wish the best of luck to Chanku in his future endeavors. We have all had a setback or two in our time!

In this issue, we are talking to Applebania. You may know him from Wintreath, Osiris, Europeia, Liberal Haven, United Provinces of Hyrule, Asgard or the GRA. Or more likely, you may know him as the darling of the Gameplay forum, where respected players have taken a shine to this energetic, smart and enthusiastic new player. His attempt to launch the region of The Burning Sea as the 'don't take yourself so seriously' region was met with praise from many. He also wrote the recent Liberate Liberal Haven proposal. We sat down and asked him what it takes to get so far so fast, and how to make it as a newcomer these days.

JB: Who would you describe as your mentor?

A: Haven't really thought of this one before. I'm going to go for an unorthodox choice here, saying that the regulars at #udl have really helped me out in terms of learning how to defend. Yes, I did just name an entire IRC channel as my mentor. Deal with it.

JB: Interesting answer! Any names in particular you'd like to give a shout out to?

A: Ravania, the current chief of the band, was the main guy who really showed me the ropes.

JB: What has been your biggest challenge so far?

A: Trying to get a region off the ground: It's harder than it looks! You have to do an insane amount of administrative work, and combine that with the fact that I'm awful at recruiting has led to the Burning Sea failing to get off the ground.

JB: What has been the biggest learning curve for you in NationStates?

A: Again, probably the sharpest difficulty curve is getting a region off the ground.

JB: I'd agree, region building is the toughest challenge in NS. Are you interested in getting involved in regional governments elsewhere? If so, what aspects of government interest you most (e.g. foreign affairs, internal affairs, the WA, etc)?

A: Probably foreign affairs: While I tried to get The Burning Sea off the ground, I really enjoyed writing foreign updates, and despite my lack of social skills (:p), I can be at least somewhat diplomatic (:p again)

JB: Where do you see yourself in a year's time?

A: To be quite frank, I'm not entirely sure. I'll probably still be a defender, though still being with the UDL I'm not sure about. I'll probably have joined even more regions (Thinking of putting puppets in Spiritus and TEP at the moment) and maybe might have actually gotten one off the ground! Also, if Delegate-Elect has been implemented by then, I'll probably be using that to great extent in order to end raids before they even begin, mainly by frantically trying to contact anyone who would even vaguely be willing to help out.

JB: Do you think joining lots of regions is key to developing as a player in NS, rather than devotion to a single region?

A: I personally believe so. By confining yourself to one region, you miss out on quite a bit. For example, if one confined themselves to a military-only region, such as The Black Riders, they would be missing out on regional politics quite a bit.

JB: What area of the game would you most like to expand into that you are not currently involved with?

A: Roleplaying. I often roleplay on other sites, however I haven't actually gone and joined any of the big roleplay regions here, or posted much in II or at all in P2TM, so, yeah, doing that at some point.

JB: What advice would you give to newcomers?

A: Dive in. Do everything, speak to everyone, whether it be arguing in General or preventing a raider from pillaging a region. There's a lot more to NS than it seems, so just go, and do what you want to do!

Do you think you have spotted a rising star? Please send your tips and predictions via telegram to Joe Bobs.


[big][big]The Class of 2002: Crazy Girl[/big][/big]
FEATURE | JOE BOBS

In the first of this series, Infinite Loop told us about the early days of invading, his years in the wilderness, and that he has not yet ruled out a Modship. In this issue, we speak to one of the pioneers of the Defender cause, and someone who has already attained the coveted title of 'Mod': Crazy Girl.

Crazy Girl is a game moderator and recipient of SC49 'Commend Crazy Girl'. She has been involved in one capacity or another in The Rejected Realms and the RRA for over a decade, and was one of the early political leaders in The Pacific, where she was one of the most vocal opponents of Francos Spain in the fledgling New Pacific Order. She was Secretary of Defence of the ADN and led the liberation of The North Pacific in 2004. She has been a long-term admin of The Rejected Realms forums and was Delegate of The Moon. We sat down for, oh, about a hundred cups of coffee and explored the mind and memories of Crazy Girl.

JB: Who was your biggest influence in the early days?

CG: A rag tag group of defenders I stalked. Later on it was Greymarshes and Siggi. (Respectively Commander and High Commander of the RRA.)

JB: In the last issue, I spoke with Loop, who of course as a Farker was one of the earliest invaders. You have been a long time Defender, what is your opinion on the current state of the invader-defender conflict, and what do you think about the rise of Imperialism?

CG: Invaders pretending to be "the good guys" annoys me. Dare to be the bad guys. I knew plenty of invaders back in the days who prided themselves to be the bad guys and defenders having fun being the "good guys". Not for moralistic reasons, but because it was fun. Leave the "natives" (loaded word, I know) alone, and focus on the fun battle together. Imperialism is utter nonsense and is one of the reasons why people are often annoyed with R/D. Grab a region, hold it possibly for one or two updates, kick some defenders, or get kicked, and leave. I think by searching for conflict with other groups, as amusing as it might seem, gameplayers might be cutting into their own fingers a little. The old invasion rules were far, far from perfect... but they kept other groups relatively safe while we had our fun little battles. The problem was that it was often very difficult to tell who was who and if rules were actually broken. It was not entirely enforceable.

JB: What changes to the game do you believe have had the most impact?

CG: Founders/passwords/eject&ban and of course, after that, influence.

JB: Can you give us any hints about what future changes we can expect?

CG: Well, there are the changes posted in the Summit forum: http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=258968 Other than that, who knows what our lovely admins will come up with to make the servers explode?

JB: What has been the most unexpected event you have witnessed?

CG: A load of delegates (including my arch enemy at the time Francos Spain) being removed from their delegacy. Turned out later an admin I will not mention made a little typo.

JB: You were an opponent of Francos Spain, what do you think of the continued existence of Francoism and the NPO today?

CG: I wasn't aware anything was still alive in the Pacific? I'll also have to add that I probably wouldn't still be in NS hadn't that whole conflict come up and shot me pretty much into infamy.

JB: What has given you the most satisfaction?

CG: I'd like to say retaking The North Pacific, but I think that is more of an accomplishment... it was actually the comradery in the RRA in its old glory days. We had a great group of people there.

JB: What was your biggest disappointment?

CG: Gamewise I'd say I was quite disappointed when I found out the Commander of the Pacific Army turned traitor and was spying on us, or the time where Neut (a former mod) ordered us out of the Pacific when Francos Spain accidently got deleted and we tried to grab the delegacy. The biggest personal disappointment however was that some people on both sides went too far on occasion, as in gloating when someone died or something bad happened to them in real life. In the end, the other player is a person sitting behind a keyboard as well, playing the same game. Keep that in mind when typing your posts and comments.

JB: Very true, and sadly something many often forget. What have been some of the best debates or threads you have seen in the main forum?

CG: Ah, there have been many over the years, the thread where we asked for a Gameplay forum, the number of threads on the Pacific drama, the Bastard Mods threads of which I always was a big fan. And one that always makes me laugh is a thread actually hidden away in the NationStates forum with irc quotes from the official mod channel, a little glimpse into insanity: http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=7117363#p7117363

JB: What is your opinion on the current state of affairs? How does it compare?

CG: As an old fart, I'll give my obligatory "Back in the days it was all a lot better!", which is not entirely true. Some things were better, it was easier to defend more regions, easier to kick invaders out... but you also had to walk on eggshells a bit, because banning the wrong person could mean losing your nation. And of course it meant a lot of difficult decisions for moderators to make.
Secondly I think the Security Council has managed to add an interesting layer to Gameplay and it involves a little more politics which is a nice touch.

JB: Some have commented that it is much harder to get proposals passed these days, and commends and condemns seem to be particularly tricky. Do you think the World Assembly is still as accessible as it once was?

CG: After the obvious ones, it's time to commend/condemn the less obvious ones, I guess. Which might be trickier, but if you know how to make a proper proposal, a proper case for it and you campaign for it, it really should not be all that difficult.

JB: What advice would you give to others who want to last as long?

CG: Have fun. It seems so simple, but that really is the keyword. Fun. If it stops being fun, take a step back.

JB: Excellent advice! Who do you believe has made the biggest contribution to NationStates?

CG: Max Barry. (Never hurts to do a little sucking up to the big boss.)

JB: Haha, well it is true in many ways. But OK, who has made the second biggest contribution?

CG: Overall, relevant for everyone... I'd say Salusa. It may not always be apparent, but he has done a lot for the game, both behind the scenes and the more visible stuff. And I think he is a little underrated there. So I'd like to give some well-deserved recognition to him.

Join us in the next issue to hear from another of the Class of 2002.

Again, I feel bad about the poor timing with Chanku...it was just standard procedure, and he was warned multiple times throughout the month that he would need to be more active...I didn't really have any choice. But I'm sure he'll bounce back if that's where he wants to put his efforts.

Also, go Applebania! Sadly he hasn't been horribly involved in the region, but from what I know of him he seems to be a go-getter kinda sort. I think we'll be hearing more of him.

Finally got the news area done! As we talked about before, I split this into the news area, and you can feel free to post any new editions as new topics here.

Hey Moot, where do you want me posting the new bumper issue of TRT? Which forum?

Also, the coding is geared towards ZB/IF2. This issue is very, very long and going through tidying the code for Simple Machines would take a long time. Do you mind if I just post it as is?

There are no alignment tags, do you use 'big' or 'size=14' here? It's coded for 'big'.

Heyo! We have a dedicated news forum now, located here!

You can post it as is, and we use the size tag. We're just difficult like that.