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He was 2/3 tho so props, and we will still win so ExLight gets a victory pass

You mean me right? In my pushing of the wolf team? 

In fact the only reason you would be trying to sus me now is to try and set up a push on me to get exlite to vote me in lylo so it really only clears exlite and shades you further.

Maybe it's because we have two hunter claims and there can be only one? Plus, your voting record ain't the best, you slanked D1, tried and failed to jump off Grace D2, and just followed people the next two days so you didn't have to take responsibility for your votes, with yesterday being an anti-town hammer. Also don't act like you haven't been on my radar for a while. Stop hiding behind Golden and tell me why your claim is real and theirs isn't.

when was I anti town hammer?

My mistake, it was Golden. Still, you voted knowing they intended to hammer.

so?

Why did you make a vote that was blatantly anti-town?

You arent that dumb ori, you literally pointed it out in one of your attacks on me. I have been letting obvious town people control my vote. Its why Luka died over myself or Golden. You plan on taking me to lylo and you can have someone who I would give over my vote to there to control it.

So you're hiding behind other people. I mean, there's only one wolf left, so as long as they don't vote you there's no risk to that. Give me your actual thoughts, because as long as you keep hiding behind other people it's not like you're giving me anything to read you off of.

Whats wrong with hiding behind other people? No wolf would give away their vote d2 after a shitty d1, they are fucked. Wolves are in the minority to take away one of their votes is mechanical suicide. So you can call it hiding behind people. Or you can call it what it is. Suicide for a wolf. You are in a corner I get it so I dont want you to take this personally but this is a bad line to push. Hell if Golden wants me to vote you today I would do it because I trust golden more than I trust myself.

You didn't give your vote away D2, that's not what happened so don't lie. By D3 Winter was basically a free bus and you weren't even the one hard pushing them. Why not make it look like you're giving your vote away, then you don't have to look like an obvious busser? At that point, there is really nothing to lose as long as you're following someone who won't vote you.

Sorry who were you pushing D1? 

In fact the only reason you would be trying to sus me now is to try and set up a push on me to get exlite to vote me in lylo so it really only clears exlite and shades you further.

Maybe it's because we have two hunter claims and there can be only one? Plus, your voting record ain't the best, you slanked D1, tried and failed to jump off Grace D2, and just followed people the next two days so you didn't have to take responsibility for your votes, with yesterday being an anti-town hammer. Also don't act like you haven't been on my radar for a while. Stop hiding behind Golden and tell me why your claim is real and theirs isn't.

when was I anti town hammer?

My mistake, it was Golden. Still, you voted knowing they intended to hammer.

so?

Why did you make a vote that was blatantly anti-town?

You arent that dumb ori, you literally pointed it out in one of your attacks on me. I have been letting obvious town people control my vote. Its why Luka died over myself or Golden. You plan on taking me to lylo and you can have someone who I would give over my vote to there to control it.

So you're hiding behind other people. I mean, there's only one wolf left, so as long as they don't vote you there's no risk to that. Give me your actual thoughts, because as long as you keep hiding behind other people it's not like you're giving me anything to read you off of.

Whats wrong with hiding behind other people? No wolf would give away their vote d2 after a shitty d1, they are fucked. Wolves are in the minority to take away one of their votes is mechanical suicide. So you can call it hiding behind people. Or you can call it what it is. Suicide for a wolf. You are in a corner I get it so I dont want you to take this personally but this is a bad line to push. Hell if Golden wants me to vote you today I would do it because I trust golden more than I trust myself.

You didn't give your vote away D2, that's not what happened so don't lie. By D3 Winter was basically a free bus and you weren't even the one hard pushing them. Why not make it look like you're giving your vote away, then you don't have to look like an obvious busser? At that point, there is really nothing to lose as long as you're following someone who won't vote you.

Sorry who were you pushing D1?

Moon. You know, the first wolf that died

d3 vote
Wintermoot: 5 (Rem, RondoDimBuckle, ExLight, ☆ Princess Abigail ☆, GoldenOne)
Oricorio: 1 (Luka)

No Vote (Never Voted): Wintermoot, Oricorio, Bellepi



Oh look at this, ExLite and Golden were bussing d3. the wolf must be one of you two. Oh no

In fact the only reason you would be trying to sus me now is to try and set up a push on me to get exlite to vote me in lylo so it really only clears exlite and shades you further.

Maybe it's because we have two hunter claims and there can be only one? Plus, your voting record ain't the best, you slanked D1, tried and failed to jump off Grace D2, and just followed people the next two days so you didn't have to take responsibility for your votes, with yesterday being an anti-town hammer. Also don't act like you haven't been on my radar for a while. Stop hiding behind Golden and tell me why your claim is real and theirs isn't.

when was I anti town hammer?

My mistake, it was Golden. Still, you voted knowing they intended to hammer.

so?

Why did you make a vote that was blatantly anti-town?

You arent that dumb ori, you literally pointed it out in one of your attacks on me. I have been letting obvious town people control my vote. Its why Luka died over myself or Golden. You plan on taking me to lylo and you can have someone who I would give over my vote to there to control it.

So you're hiding behind other people. I mean, there's only one wolf left, so as long as they don't vote you there's no risk to that. Give me your actual thoughts, because as long as you keep hiding behind other people it's not like you're giving me anything to read you off of.

Whats wrong with hiding behind other people? No wolf would give away their vote d2 after a shitty d1, they are fucked. Wolves are in the minority to take away one of their votes is mechanical suicide. So you can call it hiding behind people. Or you can call it what it is. Suicide for a wolf. You are in a corner I get it so I dont want you to take this personally but this is a bad line to push. Hell if Golden wants me to vote you today I would do it because I trust golden more than I trust myself.

You didn't give your vote away D2, that's not what happened so don't lie. By D3 Winter was basically a free bus and you weren't even the one hard pushing them. Why not make it look like you're giving your vote away, then you don't have to look like an obvious busser? At that point, there is really nothing to lose as long as you're following someone who won't vote you.

Sorry who were you pushing D1?

Moon. You know, the first wolf that died

By D1 Sugar was basically a free bus and you weren't even the one hard pushing them.

d3 vote
Wintermoot: 5 (Rem, RondoDimBuckle, ExLight, ☆ Princess Abigail ☆, GoldenOne)
Oricorio: 1 (Luka)

No Vote (Never Voted): Wintermoot, Oricorio, Bellepi



Oh look at this, ExLite and Golden were bussing d3. the wolf must be one of you two. Oh no

Are you daft?

Anyways, lemme be actually dead serious now.

Oricorio, I am never voting ExLight here. I think you obviously agree with that. That leaves you and RDB in the F3.

As a reasonable human being player, I am going to tell you that if you are wolf, please do not get your hopes up. I am likely going to vote you. I will however still give you the opportunity to plead your case as that’s fair and valid.

I don’t see RDB ever being scum here not only due to their FPS, but the tone of their posts is incredibly good and there’s some moves they make that are absolutely wild for scum to do.

I scumread you due to your lack of direction and the simple fact that your LAMIST (Look At Me I’m So Townie) behavior is much akin to that of a mafia who is doing his best to look town by just complaining about people doing “anti-town” things. Nothing about the Rem vote was anti-town. It got us a Luka flip faster and cemented ExLight as town. It was done specifically to drag my scumread (you) into a scenario where you’re forced to towntell or die. If you are town and frustrated about all of the things going on, I want you to find a mafia - not just point out all the scummy things and say “wow that’s scummy”. 

In fact the only reason you would be trying to sus me now is to try and set up a push on me to get exlite to vote me in lylo so it really only clears exlite and shades you further.

Maybe it's because we have two hunter claims and there can be only one? Plus, your voting record ain't the best, you slanked D1, tried and failed to jump off Grace D2, and just followed people the next two days so you didn't have to take responsibility for your votes, with yesterday being an anti-town hammer. Also don't act like you haven't been on my radar for a while. Stop hiding behind Golden and tell me why your claim is real and theirs isn't.

when was I anti town hammer?

My mistake, it was Golden. Still, you voted knowing they intended to hammer.

so?

Why did you make a vote that was blatantly anti-town?

You arent that dumb ori, you literally pointed it out in one of your attacks on me. I have been letting obvious town people control my vote. Its why Luka died over myself or Golden. You plan on taking me to lylo and you can have someone who I would give over my vote to there to control it.

So you're hiding behind other people. I mean, there's only one wolf left, so as long as they don't vote you there's no risk to that. Give me your actual thoughts, because as long as you keep hiding behind other people it's not like you're giving me anything to read you off of.

Whats wrong with hiding behind other people? No wolf would give away their vote d2 after a shitty d1, they are fucked. Wolves are in the minority to take away one of their votes is mechanical suicide. So you can call it hiding behind people. Or you can call it what it is. Suicide for a wolf. You are in a corner I get it so I dont want you to take this personally but this is a bad line to push. Hell if Golden wants me to vote you today I would do it because I trust golden more than I trust myself.

You didn't give your vote away D2, that's not what happened so don't lie. By D3 Winter was basically a free bus and you weren't even the one hard pushing them. Why not make it look like you're giving your vote away, then you don't have to look like an obvious busser? At that point, there is really nothing to lose as long as you're following someone who won't vote you.

Sorry who were you pushing D1?

Moon. You know, the first wolf that died

By D1 Sugar was basically a free bus and you weren't even the one hard pushing them.

I was pushing them since basically the beginning of the day. Maybe if you hadn't slanked D1 you would actually understand what happened in the game

d3 vote
Wintermoot: 5 (Rem, RondoDimBuckle, ExLight, ☆ Princess Abigail ☆, GoldenOne)
Oricorio: 1 (Luka)

No Vote (Never Voted): Wintermoot, Oricorio, Bellepi



Oh look at this, ExLite and Golden were bussing d3. the wolf must be one of you two. Oh no

Are you daft?

yes. if you think that isnt sarcasm

In fact the only reason you would be trying to sus me now is to try and set up a push on me to get exlite to vote me in lylo so it really only clears exlite and shades you further.

Maybe it's because we have two hunter claims and there can be only one? Plus, your voting record ain't the best, you slanked D1, tried and failed to jump off Grace D2, and just followed people the next two days so you didn't have to take responsibility for your votes, with yesterday being an anti-town hammer. Also don't act like you haven't been on my radar for a while. Stop hiding behind Golden and tell me why your claim is real and theirs isn't.

when was I anti town hammer?

My mistake, it was Golden. Still, you voted knowing they intended to hammer.

so?

Why did you make a vote that was blatantly anti-town?

You arent that dumb ori, you literally pointed it out in one of your attacks on me. I have been letting obvious town people control my vote. Its why Luka died over myself or Golden. You plan on taking me to lylo and you can have someone who I would give over my vote to there to control it.

So you're hiding behind other people. I mean, there's only one wolf left, so as long as they don't vote you there's no risk to that. Give me your actual thoughts, because as long as you keep hiding behind other people it's not like you're giving me anything to read you off of.

Whats wrong with hiding behind other people? No wolf would give away their vote d2 after a shitty d1, they are fucked. Wolves are in the minority to take away one of their votes is mechanical suicide. So you can call it hiding behind people. Or you can call it what it is. Suicide for a wolf. You are in a corner I get it so I dont want you to take this personally but this is a bad line to push. Hell if Golden wants me to vote you today I would do it because I trust golden more than I trust myself.

You didn't give your vote away D2, that's not what happened so don't lie. By D3 Winter was basically a free bus and you weren't even the one hard pushing them. Why not make it look like you're giving your vote away, then you don't have to look like an obvious busser? At that point, there is really nothing to lose as long as you're following someone who won't vote you.

Sorry who were you pushing D1?

Moon. You know, the first wolf that died

By D1 Sugar was basically a free bus and you weren't even the one hard pushing them.

I was pushing them since basically the beginning of the day. Maybe if you hadn't slanked D1 you would actually understand what happened in the game

Nah I enjoyed having a weekend showing up a day late was great. I had to do literally nothing and a wolf was got. Wolves really shot themselves in the foot on that one

Anyways, lemme be actually dead serious now.

Oricorio, I am never voting ExLight here. I think you obviously agree with that. That leaves you and RDB in the F3.

As a reasonable human being player, I am going to tell you that if you are wolf, please do not get your hopes up. I am likely going to vote you. I will however still give you the opportunity to plead your case as that’s fair and valid.

I don’t see RDB ever being scum here not only due to their FPS, but the tone of their posts is incredibly good and there’s some moves they make that are absolutely wild for scum to do.

I scumread you due to your lack of direction and the simple fact that your LAMIST (Look At Me I’m So Townie) behavior is much akin to that of a mafia who is doing his best to look town by just complaining about people doing “anti-town” things. Nothing about the Rem vote was anti-town. It got us a Luka flip faster and cemented ExLight as town. It was done specifically to drag my scumread (you) into a scenario where you’re forced to towntell or die. If you are town and frustrated about all of the things going on, I want you to find a mafia - not just point out all the scummy things and say “wow that’s scummy”.

Have you ever played with me before? I get the "LAMIST" accusation a lot, which is stupid because basic things like knowing your alignment is town and actually caring about town winning is considered "LAMIST" when it's basically just being town. What do you think I'm doing here but trying to find mafia? What do you want me to do here, just say "x is mafia" ad nauseum instead of trying to figure it out? Pushing people for responses is part of basic solving processes, and if ExLight was posting here I'd be doing it to them too (although I agree they're very unlikely to be mafia, given their pushes on the two flipped wolves so unless wolves have gone for a balls-to-the-wall "hard bus two teammates so the third endgames", which I doubt is a strategy they'd want to risk given the Seer in the setup, and even then that world makes no sense given that Winter apparently tried to save Moon, okay I think I just convinced myself into being okay with just leaving them as town. Wow that was a tangent)

I lost my train of thought here, but the point I'm trying to make here is when you get to LyLo you have to slow down a little and consider everything that happened throughout the game. I've solved games at LyLo before, but that didn't come by hard tunneling and sticking myself into assumptions I've made in previous phases.

Oricorio, there’s a way to make this really easy

If you vote NL, we can skip to F3 and you can automatically find the wolf - and then your casing should be easier, correct?

Exlite is basically Bus to victory which is lol but also after d1 its not a winning stratergy to keep on the wolves so yeah its gotta be ori

I have killed exactly the same number of wolves as Ori so naturally I am the best one to take to lylo but its hilarious to me that ori went belly up and no voted the same day that winter did. And I was right. D1 there was 1 wolf on each wagon (project red/sugar/no vote)

Oricorio, there’s a way to make this really easy

If you vote NL, we can skip to F3 and you can automatically find the wolf - and then your casing should be easier, correct?

Bad deal. If you're honest about being the Hunter and targeting me, then the wolf can just shoot you and win the game.