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Here in time for EoD, though I'm still a bit busy

Vote: Sugar Moon

Two reasons: a. I hate ties and b. Projekt is at leat trying to defend themselves while Moon seemingly just shut down

so I found Oricorio's vote
This was an hour prior to EoD, and was used to break the tie in a very volatile gamestate
This is not a townclearing vote ever

it is, ties are coin flip

it makes so scum needs two votes on the other wagon to prevent the chance of one of them getting lynched, it solidifies the wagon and causes wolves to enter bus mode AFTER it

ok so

two counterpoints
1 - Bussing exists and idk why ur so set on this read when they are not towny
2 - Again, very volatile gamestate

We are not voting luka, abigail, rem, or mr. dingle hopper ever

please explain all of these in detail because I hard disagree with literally all of them

For Abby, taking Grace's ISO at face value Abby was green checked. We don't know this for 100% certain (it may be possible Rem was red-checked but Grace was terrible at communicating that) but it's not something I would ever consider when there are still two wolves remaining. Others could probably be questioned.

Pretty sure rem was who Grace was checking n2

can you fetch the post that might indicate that

Vote: Wintermoot

Its more that the context of her entry to d2 was to declare neon probably town then eod 2 she voted rem who was not a proper contention at the time and Winter was likely going over. So using that its likely neon town rem n2 check. But its all academic

is it weird that I get the other way around from this

Neon check and Rem town (?)

Here in time for EoD, though I'm still a bit busy

Vote: Sugar Moon

Two reasons: a. I hate ties and b. Projekt is at leat trying to defend themselves while Moon seemingly just shut down

so I found Oricorio's vote
This was an hour prior to EoD, and was used to break the tie in a very volatile gamestate
This is not a townclearing vote ever

it is, ties are coin flip

it makes so scum needs two votes on the other wagon to prevent the chance of one of them getting lynched, it solidifies the wagon and causes wolves to enter bus mode AFTER it

ok so

two counterpoints
1 - Bussing exists and idk why ur so set on this read when they are not towny
2 - Again, very volatile gamestate

bussing for no reason in a setup with basically a semi-bomb and a cop alive without having godfather is literally the most moronic thing anyone could do

if you're gonna dumbplay everything that we got from that voting interactions into WIFOM just so you can say your gutfeeling is the gospel we should just agree to disagree and move on

you're probably about to hit your cap due to ass post management anyway

We are not voting luka, abigail, rem, or mr. dingle hopper ever

please explain all of these in detail because I hard disagree with literally all of them

For Abby, taking Grace's ISO at face value Abby was green checked. We don't know this for 100% certain (it may be possible Rem was red-checked but Grace was terrible at communicating that) but it's not something I would ever consider when there are still two wolves remaining. Others could probably be questioned.

Pretty sure rem was who Grace was checking n2

can you fetch the post that might indicate that

Vote: Wintermoot

Its more that the context of her entry to d2 was to declare neon probably town then eod 2 she voted rem who was not a proper contention at the time and Winter was likely going over. So using that its likely neon town rem n2 check. But its all academic

is it weird that I get the other way around from this

Neon check and Rem town (?)

Yes.

We are not voting luka, abigail, rem, or mr. dingle hopper ever

please explain all of these in detail because I hard disagree with literally all of them

For Abby, taking Grace's ISO at face value Abby was green checked. We don't know this for 100% certain (it may be possible Rem was red-checked but Grace was terrible at communicating that) but it's not something I would ever consider when there are still two wolves remaining. Others could probably be questioned.

Pretty sure rem was who Grace was checking n2

can you fetch the post that might indicate that

Vote: Wintermoot

Its more that the context of her entry to d2 was to declare neon probably town then eod 2 she voted rem who was not a proper contention at the time and Winter was likely going over. So using that its likely neon town rem n2 check. But its all academic

is it weird that I get the other way around from this

Neon check and Rem town (?)

Yes.

but why would they enter saying neon is town if they checked rem

doesn't it cause this dumb issue on us not being sure who they checked if they flip

We are not voting luka, abigail, rem, or mr. dingle hopper ever

please explain all of these in detail because I hard disagree with literally all of them

For Abby, taking Grace's ISO at face value Abby was green checked. We don't know this for 100% certain (it may be possible Rem was red-checked but Grace was terrible at communicating that) but it's not something I would ever consider when there are still two wolves remaining. Others could probably be questioned.

Pretty sure rem was who Grace was checking n2

can you fetch the post that might indicate that

Vote: Wintermoot

Its more that the context of her entry to d2 was to declare neon probably town then eod 2 she voted rem who was not a proper contention at the time and Winter was likely going over. So using that its likely neon town rem n2 check. But its all academic

is it weird that I get the other way around from this

Neon check and Rem town (?)

Yes.

but why would they enter saying neon is town if they checked rem

doesn't it cause this dumb issue on us not being sure who they checked if they flip

I hate 50-50s. Well, at least we know that Abby/Rem isn't w/w? (If they are all blame goes to Grace) Still, I'm like 90% sure Abby is the green check, but as I say never underestimate the ability for town to do stupid things.

also volatile game state is when the good stuff shows up because people are too all over the place to be busy playing 5D chess, I doubt there are bussing shenanigans in oricorios tie break when the obvious instinct is to preserve the scumbud or just wait to see what town does and hope they can push the other direction

the latter being exactly what wintermoot did which is like
why I was very fine with his lynch yesterday 

dunno, i just find it weird that you're expecting there not to be a deepwolf when a scum was limmed d1

especially when any semblance of thread reading gives you 5 really easy townreads

if the cop check was likely Rem/Abbi then I'd probably prefer to stay away from these slots for now

Moot feels tied to Rem, so if Moot flips scum I'd prolly never want any of the Abbi/Rem

with the GoldenOne claim of being the hunter, I'd probably prioritize a Luka wagon over him

but from my experience with him he does some stupid WIFOM plays so if Rondo is legit hard counterclaiming hunter I would probably be about 50/50 on Golden's slot

mr. dragon ball z does not FPS as mafia there

abigail is green checked

rem's entire eod2 is impossible to scumread unless you are really bad

i am apparently the only person able to read luka but they are town

you, are presumably town

oricorio and winter are left

I'll help you lim winter, but I can tell you with confidence that I will not be nightkilled because oricorio would lose if they do so

We are not voting luka, abigail, rem, or mr. dingle hopper ever

please explain all of these in detail because I hard disagree with literally all of them

For Abby, taking Grace's ISO at face value Abby was green checked. We don't know this for 100% certain (it may be possible Rem was red-checked but Grace was terrible at communicating that) but it's not something I would ever consider when there are still two wolves remaining. Others could probably be questioned.

Pretty sure rem was who Grace was checking n2

can you fetch the post that might indicate that

Vote: Wintermoot

Its more that the context of her entry to d2 was to declare neon probably town then eod 2 she voted rem who was not a proper contention at the time and Winter was likely going over. So using that its likely neon town rem n2 check. But its all academic

is it weird that I get the other way around from this

Neon check and Rem town (?)

Yes.

but why would they enter saying neon is town if they checked rem

doesn't it cause this dumb issue on us not being sure who they checked if they flip

You're not reading what I say. Night 1 neon, night 2 which is a different night, last night where loona died if grace was alive would have checked rem because she voted them and her post when she voted them told us not to listen to her. If she was alive today she would have told us the outcome 

We are not voting luka, abigail, rem, or mr. dingle hopper ever

please explain all of these in detail because I hard disagree with literally all of them

For Abby, taking Grace's ISO at face value Abby was green checked. We don't know this for 100% certain (it may be possible Rem was red-checked but Grace was terrible at communicating that) but it's not something I would ever consider when there are still two wolves remaining. Others could probably be questioned.

Pretty sure rem was who Grace was checking n2

can you fetch the post that might indicate that

Vote: Wintermoot

Its more that the context of her entry to d2 was to declare neon probably town then eod 2 she voted rem who was not a proper contention at the time and Winter was likely going over. So using that its likely neon town rem n2 check. But its all academic

is it weird that I get the other way around from this

Neon check and Rem town (?)

Yes.

but why would they enter saying neon is town if they checked rem

doesn't it cause this dumb issue on us not being sure who they checked if they flip

I hate 50-50s. Well, at least we know that Abby/Rem isn't w/w? (If they are all blame goes to Grace) Still, I'm like 90% sure Abby is the green check, but as I say never underestimate the ability for town to do stupid things.

It's not a 50/50 to say otherwise is scummy 

dunno, i just find it weird that you're expecting there not to be a deepwolf when a scum was limmed d1

because scum could've avoided sugar being lynched d1 easily with that tiebreak

there's no reason to WIFOM this hard D1 if it only makes their team a lot weaker to the town power roles, there isn't a proportional pay off even if one of the scum looks better from the vote

if oricorio had voted red instead of sugar then red would've likely been the lynch and he'd be in a good spot since breaking ties is usually townie and it would give a lot of breathing room for sugar (specially if they eventually came to vote self-preserv)

the fact they did the other way around and made it impossible for sugar to be safe even after a possible self preserv is significantly townie

if anything ME being a dumbass and retying the votes to try to get another similar key vote interaction was scummy, but I strongly do not believe oricorio's vote was