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Werewolf 32 - Caitlin's Werewolf - Town Wins
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Projekt Red
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  • Yeah Ori doesn't seem to know how to respond to this situation. Their PoV hasn't changed from page 2 despite the amount of information available since then.
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    Oricorio
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  • Yeah Ori doesn't seem to know how to respond to this situation. Their PoV hasn't changed from page 2 despite the amount of information available since then.
    And your read on my slot doesn't seem to have changed either. Your point being?
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    Projekt Red
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  • You caught me. I Haven't progressed on you at all in the pages you don't appear to have read based on your own lack of progression.
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    Projekt Red
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  • Actually, this should work better.

    I Actually have progressed on and off you in those pages.
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    Oricorio
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  • Actually, this should work better.

    I Actually have progressed on and off you in those pages.
    If making shit up counts as "progression", sure. Also love how you contradict your last post there.
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    Wintermoot
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  • I have read through all 200+ posts (in some cases again) and found a Werewolf Terminology list, so let's do this!

    np

    I see that's fine, I am on the other side a mafia nerd, I'm retiring to hosting mostly tho probably, but I just can't say no to Abigail

    how would you resume your process as a town, even if casual, what do you normally do?
    I hosted my first game last year. The whole game only had 90 posts, but I enjoyed the experience...more than playing, to be honest. But this seemed to be an important game for Abigail and Caitlin, was designed to be relatively casual, and I feel a bit bad for not being able to persuade more Wintreath people to join...so I figured I'd give it another try.

    Back in the day most of the people who played knew each other (as most of you obviously do), so I would look for things that seemed out of character for them, or for people who tried to drive the game to a particular place for no apparent reason. Then as the game went on and there was more data about who'd been killed as town and wolves, I'd go back and see how that vibed with previous votes and noteworth events. I'd take a lot of notes too, especially for the crazy 500 posts a day games, but I hope it doesn't come to that here.

    Upgrade nice but I'm never gonna blame you or the site or trash it when I know what you've done here

    That's why I am for Werewolf UI updates if and when you can do them and don't worry too much about how long it takes
    I think that's the kindest thing anybody's ever told me as Wintreath leader/admin/mod. <3

    The upgrade should at least be more mobile-friendly and internalize a lot of the features we're relying on hacky mods for, such as likes, notifications, and multi-quote. it's just that...well, SMF's default skin sucks, so I have to update that, then incorporate years of customizations and expansions. Werewolf shouldn't be too bad to do...I made it later on when I was a better coder, and most of the code is actually independent of the forum code. It's just more skin-work to get the options on the topic page (vote buttons, etc).

    Sorry, I don't often get a chance to talk about my work. ^-^

    If I didn't know better I'd think you were a host of MoD based on your ISO this game. What are your actual thoughts on the game?
    MoD? That one isn't in my dictionary. I assume you mean my posting about the technical aspects of things though...it's what I best know, I suppose, and given the chance I'd start promoting Wintreath in general. We can always use new members and Citizens in our community. ^-^ :P

    I feel like most of your posts are accusatory in some way, complete with judgements about how most players entered the game. It does come off as forceful and a bit contrived...I'm not sure that's enough for me to say you're suspicious though (although perhaps you would in my place :P). Your point about pushing a game forward by applying pressure is well-taken, and feels like something Laurentus might have told me once when we were chatting about MU games. Or you could be a wolf that hopes to come off as a townlead (did I use that jargon right?). Either way, you've made yourself a center of attention for the entire round, and I'm not sure it's been to your benefit regardless of your role.

    I don't understand the vote on Sugar Moon, although I'm probably just not comprehending...this game is heavy on jargon at times, and even with a dictionary it's a bit hard for me to process. @Rem mentioned his posts being contradictory, but I didn't understand how so. To some extent I wonder if he came under suspicion because he was the first to post his exact thoughts on all the active players. I haven't been able to focus on any theme behind his posts, so I don't have an opinion either way. That being said, I didn't agree at all when he said that starting out without meaningful interaction is suspicious. I can totally understand people wanting to start getting their posts in if they're busy and haven't had a chance to go over everything yet, especially when there's very little in the way of concrete facts. Not enough to cast any sort of judgement, just a disagreement.

    That being said, if that behaviour continued for multiple rounds I might be more open to that argument.

    It's completely irrelevant to the game, but I'm left wondering if Projekt Red is a furry (it's the "wuf wuf awooo", lol). That's not meant in a bad way, as Wintreath has an active furry community. More relevantly, I don't agree with the reasoning behind Oricorio's vote on them. Unless I missed something, Sugar Moon didn't wolfread them and went so far as to say not w/w. I don't get the idea of TWTBAW, but I gather getthing that vibe doesn't mean someone's a wolf. Anyone feel free to correct me if I've misunderstood any part of this.

    Rem has come across to me as helpful, though I might be putting too much emotion into our non-game interactions on here last night. I didn't like the suspicion on Bellepi for saying that their claiming to be sick is a cause for suspicion...that seemed super-cynical, to the point of being jarring enough to write about it here. I don't know how the game is played on other websites, but if someone claims to be sick I'll take them at their word...if that makes me naive, well, I've been accused of such for far more serious things lol. Still, Projekt Red claims to have experience reading Rem in their vote, and that's probably more relevant than my enjoying some non-game centered conversation with him last night.

    i caught some sort of illness and have been sleeping all the time/feeling awful so i havent really been focusing on the game as of late, i should get over it by next Day Phase cause i saw a doctor and got meds today

    but ill try my best to put together thoughts before EoD today
    Damn, I hope you feel better soon. :(

    I think the most powerful phase is day 1, since it has a tendency to be the most active and like you mentioned stuff is just thrown against the wall.

    Assume AI stuff was answered but if not it just means alignment indictive.

    What happens most of the time is wolves just interact with each other without thinking because if you try to force yourself not to interact with your partner it just create pretty noticeable discrepancies between the slots.
    That's the exact opposite of the thinking behind most traditional Wintreath games, where most people use a No Vote option because they don't want to accidentally vote off a townie and get the game off to a bad start. They reason that it's better for wolves to vote someone off because at least there's hard data to go on during the next day. Your point is well-taken though...this first day has certainly seen some dramatic moments lol.

    That makes sense too...wolves would want to interact normally. It was just hard to see wolves pre-planning interactions around each other on the first day, and the consensus seems to be that that's not really a thing.


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    Rem
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    let me see if i can organize my opinion on sugar

    Sugar comes to the thread and says:

    -I agree with: red and oricorio not w/w. (I said i thought their interaction was not w/w)

    -Abi town lean because I'm agreeing with her posts more than Rem's (Ok i asked which posts? never got an answer, I wanted an answer because I agreed with Abigail too in some points)

    -I refuse to read rem's effort so null (ok why? you are reading abi towny because effort, so why not me? i ask if this is somehow a meta read because they know me. No response. I have said many times that amount of effort is not Alignment indicative for me so I'm curious)

    -Then sugar puts the rest in sus because they did the bare minimum (ok now the effort thing to me sounds more personal, why not townread or engage with my points if you want to find my alignment?)

    () stuff are my thoughts and as you can see it just feels fabricated, and maybe they know me but don't want me to know? or wolf partner knows me and sugar read that in their chat?  not very likely tbh I think they know me and slipped with missmatched reasons to read the people he did

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    Rem
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  • about the "no vote" it's generaly agreed that not yeeting is just giving control to scum, only way you see "sleep" or "no vote" currently is if you are in mylo so you force the mafia to kill 1 more person, making the pool of possible mafias smaller

    example: 6 players 4 town 2 mafia is mylo since if we vote wrong mafia wins next day

    you sleep and it goes down to 3 town 2 mafia after the night kill

    making it generally easier for town to find the wolves
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    Projekt Red
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  • I'm not a furry unfortunately.

    Yeeting a townie is a better start than a no-lynch, if only because the info generated is far more than can be gained from night kill analysis.

    And I'm not sure I could get much from one night of NKA.

    Why is Rem casing themselves as being aligned with Sugar while pushing sugar.
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    Rem
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  • I'm not a furry unfortunately.

    Yeeting a townie is a better start than a no-lynch, if only because the info generated is far more than can be gained from night kill analysis.

    And I'm not sure I could get much from one night of NKA.

    Why is Rem casing themselves as being aligned with Sugar while pushing sugar.
    I'm not
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    Projekt Red
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  • I'm not a furry unfortunately.

    Yeeting a townie is a better start than a no-lynch, if only because the info generated is far more than can be gained from night kill analysis.

    And I'm not sure I could get much from one night of NKA.

    Why is Rem casing themselves as being aligned with Sugar while pushing sugar.
    I'm not
    You're pointing out that they treated you specifically weird which was something I noticed awhile back. Them specifically aligning their thoughts with yours but not pocketing you was what I noticed actually but yeah.
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    Rem
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  • right no my brain is in

    Sugar

    abigail if sugar flips red

    loona(?)

    1-2 in bellepi/master/Rondo/Grace for poe tomorrow

    I don't think it's winter

    I don't think it's red

    I don't think it's Oricorio

    I recon this is not great but Rondo(0) Grace(0) master(whatever) bellepi(2)
    Rem
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    Rem
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  • I'm not a furry unfortunately.

    Yeeting a townie is a better start than a no-lynch, if only because the info generated is far more than can be gained from night kill analysis.

    And I'm not sure I could get much from one night of NKA.

    Why is Rem casing themselves as being aligned with Sugar while pushing sugar.
    I'm not
    You're pointing out that they treated you specifically weird which was something I noticed awhile back. Them specifically aligning their thoughts with yours but not pocketing you was what I noticed actually but yeah.
    and i would point that if he was my partner because.....?

    I'm no wolf amateur
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    Projekt Red
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  • I'm not a furry unfortunately.

    Yeeting a townie is a better start than a no-lynch, if only because the info generated is far more than can be gained from night kill analysis.

    And I'm not sure I could get much from one night of NKA.

    Why is Rem casing themselves as being aligned with Sugar while pushing sugar.
    I'm not
    You're pointing out that they treated you specifically weird which was something I noticed awhile back. Them specifically aligning their thoughts with yours but not pocketing you was what I noticed actually but yeah.
    and i would point that if he was my partner because.....?

    I'm no wolf amateur
    You didn't exactly.

    But you do bus when you feel the need.
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    Rem
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  • I'm not a furry unfortunately.

    Yeeting a townie is a better start than a no-lynch, if only because the info generated is far more than can be gained from night kill analysis.

    And I'm not sure I could get much from one night of NKA.

    Why is Rem casing themselves as being aligned with Sugar while pushing sugar.
    I'm not
    You're pointing out that they treated you specifically weird which was something I noticed awhile back. Them specifically aligning their thoughts with yours but not pocketing you was what I noticed actually but yeah.
    and i would point that if he was my partner because.....?

    I'm no wolf amateur
    You didn't exactly.

    But you do bus when you feel the need.
    do you think I would feel threatened by this thread state?

    I would laugh my ass off and afk I would have 5 potato sack slots to hide behind

    and intead of helping the loudest town you want to kill me

    which is the most phoenix thing to do
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