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Vote: JamieIsBored

Sure. I didn't quite describe my concern in those terms, but it's a closely related idea. Generous or frivolous town reads without much confidence (on my part) that they are founded on the right things (which could be related to "staying on peoples'good sides").

What do you mean by founded on the right things? Are you agreeing with what they are saying?

I agree with some of their conclusions (e.g., townish on Cait). It's the rationale that I question more than the concluding reads. One example was their town read of me, which seemed to be driven by a philosophy I held in the argument between you and I (that posting a read without total confidence is appropriate) rather than something truly alignment-indicative. I'll extend that grievance to the fact that they didn't quite give a perspective about you.

Do you think they may be avoiding saying something about me? 

Please let me know if we're required to unvote before changing to a new vote.

Do you think they may be avoiding saying something about me?

Maybe. @JamieIsBored will have to speak to that and clarify their view of you. I will only flatly assess what I can see: they said I look "better" between the two of us, and that could imply solely good things for me and bad things for you, or it could imply that we're both town reads to varying degrees (or maybe something else). I would feel better if it wasn't left to vague interpretation.

The ways that people interact with loud arguments can sometimes be the most telling, so that's kind of where my attention has gone.

Do you think they may be avoiding saying something about me?

Maybe. @JamieIsBored will have to speak to that and clarify their view of you. I will only flatly assess what I can see: they said I look "better" between the two of us, and that could imply solely good things for me and bad things for you, or it could imply that we're both town reads to varying degrees (or maybe something else). I would feel better if it wasn't left to vague interpretation.

The ways that people interact with loud arguments can sometimes be the most telling, so that's kind of where my attention has gone.

When I read the look "better" I thought they meant that your arguing skills were better or something, that's how I viewed it, but yeah obviously waiting to hear what he has to say to expand on that. 

I have struggled to develop an impression about ExLight. Their posts are just kind of existent. They don't stand out to me or make me feel anything. It's difficult to convey a read like that without it seeming insulting, so I hope it's not interpreted that way. All contributions are appreciated.

well, talk to me then
ask me my opinion on something so I have a lead on what to work with since nothing is really raising a red flag to me

I can do that.

Earlier you voted for Jamie and then unvoted after they had made a contribution. First question: was the original vote inspired by actual suspicion? Second question: when you liked my expression of a ping on Jamie after that, what did you mean by that?

The vote was originally on Michi, which was mainly RVS.
He (Michi) doesn't really have a good history with being active in games, which I despite fairly a bit. I think outta like 5 games I played with them they had under 20 posts or subbed out in literally every game but one. I saw he had made a few fluff posts, so by voting I personally expected a reaction from him to see if he would had changed his inactive behavior and was willing to engage a bit.

Jamie is a friend of mine, since he's been part of the new gen on bulba. Him subbing in for Michi's slot makes him a person of interest because I know he's usually active and was interested in playing in new communities. I felt like this being his first outside game could generate some interesting response, since I'd expect him to try his hardest which could end up giving alignment tells he usually wouldn't give. So voting him ended up being a mix of following up the Michi vote + me having more meta on him than on most people + wanting to see if it would cause any sort of reactions.

I'm a bit surprised he's been this low activity and somewhat shallow with his posts though.

so how do I see the vote count

so how do I see the vote count

On the top of the page, under the thread title
there should be a few options that say "Players · Votes · Posts"

Actually, Cait is Null to me
Like I said I don't think her reaction was AI and I get mixed feelings from the mini beef with Luka and sudden shade at me

Separate note: I somewhat null on GloriousBob, but I also know them very well as a player. I am not bothered by their posts to this point and want to let them flourish a bit in their own way. I probably won't vote there today.

Earlier Cait mentioned that he was playing unlike Mac, who he claimed to be
Do you agree or disagree with her? Can you tell me a bit on what this Mac person is like?

Separate note: I somewhat null on GloriousBob, but I also know them very well as a player. I am not bothered by their posts to this point and want to let them flourish a bit in their own way. I probably won't vote there today.

Earlier Cait mentioned that he was playing unlike Mac, who he claimed to be
Do you agree or disagree with her? Can you tell me a bit on what this Mac person is like?

MacBob has been playing forum Mafia as long as I have, and they come in many forms. This is perhaps a low-key approach for them, but I've seen that before (and frankly this whole game is low-key). I wouldn't reduce their meta to any one description, and I'd broadly recommend against reading them with meta unless there is something specific to poke at (rather than nebulous assessments or vibes). I'm not sure what versions of Mac Cait has seen, though if the champs tournament inspires her view I would understand that. They both played in season 10. Bob isn't playing this game like a champs game, and I am not bothered by that.

I'm content to let them do their thing for the time being.

I wanna expand on this on the throwing hands part, now I know that Cait can be an aggressive player, like trust me, I be afraid to tussle sometimes LOL. But, I don't think scum right now in this forum will be trying to throw hands with people so early on, because it draws attention to them, I think they will be like meek. Like oh I don't want to get on anybody's bad side because if I say something wrong, I will be sussed out. That's how I'm thinking scum will be playing right now. So, anybody who is meek in my opinion, I will be voting you.

This is a decent summary of my concern with Jamie (though I know you weren't referring to a specific player).

Eh, my game usually focuses on hunting for softs so sorry if I’m not seeming aggressive. I prefer to figure out who is town and then go from there to find scum rather than the other way around.

Sure. I didn't quite describe my concern in those terms, but it's a closely related idea. Generous or frivolous town reads without much confidence (on my part) that they are founded on the right things (which could be related to "staying on peoples'good sides").

What do you mean by founded on the right things? Are you agreeing with what they are saying?

I agree with some of their conclusions (e.g., townish on Cait). It's the rationale that I question more than the concluding reads. One example was their town read of me, which seemed to be driven by a philosophy I held in the argument between you and I (that posting a read without total confidence is appropriate) rather than something truly alignment-indicative. I'll extend that grievance to the fact that they didn't quite give a perspective about you.

Do you think they may be avoiding saying something about me?

I have talked about you. I don’t believe you’ve had much of note other than asking why you weren’t a town read and your argument with JJJ.

Do you think they may be avoiding saying something about me?

Maybe. @JamieIsBored will have to speak to that and clarify their view of you. I will only flatly assess what I can see: they said I look "better" between the two of us, and that could imply solely good things for me and bad things for you, or it could imply that we're both town reads to varying degrees (or maybe something else). I would feel better if it wasn't left to vague interpretation.

The ways that people interact with loud arguments can sometimes be the most telling, so that's kind of where my attention has gone.

When I read the look "better" I thought they meant that your arguing skills were better or something, that's how I viewed it, but yeah obviously waiting to hear what he has to say to expand on that.

Looked townier imo. You were null at best.

I have struggled to develop an impression about ExLight. Their posts are just kind of existent. They don't stand out to me or make me feel anything. It's difficult to convey a read like that without it seeming insulting, so I hope it's not interpreted that way. All contributions are appreciated.

well, talk to me then
ask me my opinion on something so I have a lead on what to work with since nothing is really raising a red flag to me

I can do that.

Earlier you voted for Jamie and then unvoted after they had made a contribution. First question: was the original vote inspired by actual suspicion? Second question: when you liked my expression of a ping on Jamie after that, what did you mean by that?

The vote was originally on Michi, which was mainly RVS.
He (Michi) doesn't really have a good history with being active in games, which I despite fairly a bit. I think outta like 5 games I played with them they had under 20 posts or subbed out in literally every game but one. I saw he had made a few fluff posts, so by voting I personally expected a reaction from him to see if he would had changed his inactive behavior and was willing to engage a bit.

Jamie is a friend of mine, since he's been part of the new gen on bulba. Him subbing in for Michi's slot makes him a person of interest because I know he's usually active and was interested in playing in new communities. I felt like this being his first outside game could generate some interesting response, since I'd expect him to try his hardest which could end up giving alignment tells he usually wouldn't give. So voting him ended up being a mix of following up the Michi vote + me having more meta on him than on most people + wanting to see if it would cause any sort of reactions.

I'm a bit surprised he's been this low activity and somewhat shallow with his posts though.

I have been and will be busy today sorry. This is a different type of game than I’m used to. I’ll spend the night phase finalising thoughts on everyone and bring them to you all on Day 2.

I have struggled to develop an impression about ExLight. Their posts are just kind of existent. They don't stand out to me or make me feel anything. It's difficult to convey a read like that without it seeming insulting, so I hope it's not interpreted that way. All contributions are appreciated.

well, talk to me then
ask me my opinion on something so I have a lead on what to work with since nothing is really raising a red flag to me

I can do that.

Earlier you voted for Jamie and then unvoted after they had made a contribution. First question: was the original vote inspired by actual suspicion? Second question: when you liked my expression of a ping on Jamie after that, what did you mean by that?

The vote was originally on Michi, which was mainly RVS.
He (Michi) doesn't really have a good history with being active in games, which I despite fairly a bit. I think outta like 5 games I played with them they had under 20 posts or subbed out in literally every game but one. I saw he had made a few fluff posts, so by voting I personally expected a reaction from him to see if he would had changed his inactive behavior and was willing to engage a bit.

Jamie is a friend of mine, since he's been part of the new gen on bulba. Him subbing in for Michi's slot makes him a person of interest because I know he's usually active and was interested in playing in new communities. I felt like this being his first outside game could generate some interesting response, since I'd expect him to try his hardest which could end up giving alignment tells he usually wouldn't give. So voting him ended up being a mix of following up the Michi vote + me having more meta on him than on most people + wanting to see if it would cause any sort of reactions.

I'm a bit surprised he's been this low activity and somewhat shallow with his posts though.

I have been and will be busy today sorry. This is a different type of game than I’m used to. I’ll spend the night phase finalising thoughts on everyone and bring them to you all on Day 2.

I feel like there's certain urgency in getting content from your slot considering you seem to be slipping into the bottom of people's lists.
Ideally I'd prefer if you skimmed the thread and posted a few of your thoughts before phase ends.

Will you be around for EoD?