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Welp, not lynching didn’t cure ENE

Tmrw is likely Lylo

Welp, not lynching didn’t cure ENE

Spy, particle oil session.

Tmrw is likely Lylo

Punch.

I broke my posting restriction but I think it was technically over much earlier and I misunderstood the severity of it...

OML.

Anyways, I have an entire transcript of everything I've said.

All My Quotes Transcribed In Random Order

A day 1 read list, because why not?

Town

Aersoldorf

Neon

Amadeus
Dawsinian

Tashkanistan

Numbers

ragnarokio

Mafia

Any logics to go with these reads?

Let me see.

Aersoldorf waking up to being on the block and their ensuing reaction was less flailing than I expected from a wolf Aerso.
Neon, admittedly I'm not good at reading them, seems to be posting relaxed.
I thought Amadeus vote could come from town not sure about who to go for D1 -> also relaxed when pressured.
Dawsinian and Tashkanistan were both pretty much null to me.
Numbers is mostly a gut-read and it was based on them not having a profile picture, but also the reaction to Amadeus voting Dawsinian stcuk me as odd.
Ragnorokio just did random things and started a lynch train on Aersoldorf.

At this point, though, my Neon read is fading a bit and so is my Ragnorokio read.

Also Dawsinian, Neon and Numbers all voting without explanation is scaring me?? Like since when are we deciding to just randomly vote people and omit reasoning.

*crawls into ENE’s pocket*

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I hope it's warm in there!

I gave reasoning

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I can not find it. Where is it?

Intresting. I'm too lazy to read Sapphs iso someone give me info :p

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It was only three posts?

i missed that they had just replaced in. Their low activity makes more sense with that in mind.

Is there anyone here who, if they were a wolf, would be afraid of a town saph?

I'm not aware of you're alleged reluctance to NK fresh replacements although i can recall you unvoting in similar situations, so it makes sense in theory. In any case, Saph probably wasn't actually lurking (or not lurking, really) so i have no reason to suspect you anymore.

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Anyone who has played here before.

Did ENE meet the minimum post requirement d1? Maybe a weird punishment if that’s the case…

Path oil.

I did.

if i'm reading right they only had three posts yesterday so they were effectively a non-slot

numbers sometimes prefers to NK lurkers as mafia i think, so he probably looks somewhat worse for it

i don't really know enough about the metas of the players here to know if its telling in any other way.

they did vote aersoldorf yesterday so they look worse for it too. Does anyone more familiar with aersoldorf know whether they're the kind of wolf who'd NK someone who voted for them?

Vote: Numbers

Dinner, opponent!

Yeah, definitely!

As an example, if they can control the number of words in their sentences we could ask them to send us a message by using that.

Respond with a one word sentence for yes, respond with a two word sentence for no.

If you have something specific you want to say you can respond with a series of longer sentences where each sentence codes a single letter (so "posting restriction" might be something like:

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Dinner.

Yeah.

Vote: ragnarokio

Any reasoning you'd like to share?

Also I still don't know what to do with ENE's posts today. Anybody see a pattern to them to maybe help decipher?

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I need to make 20 posts to become normal. That is 6 more.

I feel bad that I would have abandoned this game because of outside drama. I'm going to finish this game or play until TGN can find me a suitable replacement.

Anyways

Reads

Town
Neon
ENE

Numbers
Aers
Daws

Rag

Scum

Mosquito Oppose?

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Why Rag?

I hope you are well.

Tmrw is likely Lylo

Punch.

Let me see.

Aersoldorf waking up to being on the block and their ensuing reaction was less flailing than I expected from a wolf Aerso.
Neon, admittedly I'm not good at reading them, seems to be posting relaxed.
I thought Amadeus vote could come from town not sure about who to go for D1 -> also relaxed when pressured.
Dawsinian and Tashkanistan were both pretty much null to me.
Numbers is mostly a gut-read and it was based on them not having a profile picture, but also the reaction to Amadeus voting Dawsinian stcuk me as odd.
Ragnorokio just did random things and started a lynch train on Aersoldorf.

At this point, though, my Neon read is fading a bit and so is my Ragnorokio read.

Also Dawsinian, Neon and Numbers all voting without explanation is scaring me?? Like since when are we deciding to just randomly vote people and omit reasoning.

So you find it odd when people point out factual inconsistencies?

Also why would you assume we randomly voted? Speaking for myself there was about an hour left before deadline so I made my decision on where to place my vote based on the already voted candidates to avoid simply creating a further tie.

Overall I would probably agree with most of your logic although I don't see Rag as doing random things.

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No, I thought the timing was odd

Yeah, but there has to be some sort of reasoning why you voted a person other than that it should be a tie.

What do you believe Rag is doing?

I don't think I'd call Sapph a lurker considering they just replaced into the game, and you should know I don't prefer to kill fresh replacements without strong justification for doing so Rag.

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Vote: Unvote

Hmm... I guess I buy it.

I’m inclined to believe that ENE isn’t a wolf. Which begs the question of why he is speaking gibberish. Maybe he had a seer type role but if he scanned an infected person he has to talk like that until we have a no lynch day? Can’t think of any other reason why he’d vote that way. Thoughts?

If he's a mylo type logic follower he might be voting no lynch to force a full lylo instead of a mylo situation.

Dinner.

Yeah.

I don't think there's any pattern to what the turtle is saying. Reads like gibberish to me, rather than some sort of hidden message. At the very least I don't think there's any discernable way to convert the letters or words into english script. It could be something more abstract.

I would guess its a result of mechanics, although if the turtle wanted to actually communicate with us i imagine they'd be able to find a way to do so while adhering to a posting restriction and so i feel like they're playing coy.

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I do not want to risk breaking my post restriction.

If there’s 2 wolves then we have to get it right today

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Vote: No Lynch

Oh shit, it's mis-lynch or lose!

@ENE, if you are able to control the number of words you post, then 1 word if you know the identity of an infected person and two words if not..

Spy, spy.

No, no.

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I'd hope the setup wouldn't put us into LyLo on day 2, although the optimal play will be to lynch a wolf today in any case so it doesn't really make a difference

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It makes a huge difference!

Welp, not lynching didn’t cure ENE

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No, it did not.

Probably should have had more discussion about who is most likely to have killed Saph. They had just subbed in.

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Yeah, it has to be someone with site meta.

I know this is the opposite reads list of D1, but I do think Aerso and Neon look worse for the night kill on Saph. Maybe also Dawsinian.

I'm still getting over the fact that I may have self-imposed this restriction for way too long. No, I didn't get any info, scum targeted me to shut me up.

Me doing NL was because I believe LYLO is better than MYLO, yes, and I think Numbers looks good after D2.

I also forgot we were in an infected game, so NLing wasn't the best move for us there in hindsight. Aerso going for it so easily is giving me red flags on him.

I'm the towniest town who ever towned

No, I thought the timing was odd

Yeah, but there has to be some sort of reasoning why you voted a person other than that it should be a tie.

What do you believe Rag is doing?

So you think I should have waited before revealing he was factually incorrect? Or are you saying you found it odd we were online at roughly the same time? 


Day 1 PoE isn't that complex, especially if you're focusing more on eliminating town leans from your pool than creating scum leans. You can see me running Amadeus through this over the course of the day in the other discussions that came up around them but they couldn't make it out of the pool, where as everybody else was comparatively easier to rank closer to town with the exception of trash/saph who was not an option because of the replacement. 

Rag just seemed to be normal posting. Nothing really stood out one way or the other. I might be experience biased though. 

I also forgot we were in an infected game, so NLing wasn't the best move for us there in hindsight. Aerso going for it so easily is giving me red flags on him.

I have already explained why I followed your lead. I thought you had been partially affected by scanning one of the infected. I furthermore thought that by having a no lynch day you would be cured. I was wrong in my assumptions but they were honestly what I thought needed to happen. Furthermore, I disagree with you that the NL was a bad idea. I would much rather give any seer type roles one more chance to identify the infected ones among us. Voting blindly yesterday could have ended the game before they got that chance. I would beg anyone with that power to look elsewhere tonight, I assure you that scanning me is a waste of your scan.

I know this is the opposite reads list of D1, but I do think Aerso and Neon look worse for the night kill on Saph. Maybe also Dawsinian.

I'm still getting over the fact that I may have self-imposed this restriction for way too long. No, I didn't get any info, scum targeted me to shut me up.

Me doing NL was because I believe LYLO is better than MYLO, yes, and I think Numbers looks good after D2.

This. This really, and I do mean really, bothers me. There's so much wrong here that I don't even know where to start. Let's just address them as they come to me.

1 - How in the blue blazes does Saph being the NK look worse for me? Or Neon? Or Dawsinian? Especially me though. I had just voted for Saph, and Saph returned an OMGUS vote on me. Zero percent chance I pull that particular trigger that night, unless I'm trying some insane power wolf strategy, which isn't out of my wheelhouse, but certainly not something I'd have had the time or energy to try overcoming while my daughter came to spend the weekend with me before school starts tomorrow. And how does it make Numbers look better? Why not bring Rag into this? That's the only name you haven't tossed out yet.

2 - "I broke my posting restriction but I think it was technically over much earlier and I misunderstood the severity of it..." - Not even sure what posting restriction you are referring to with this comment. You met the 5 post minimum D1 and D2, and you didn't exceed 20 posts N1. Scum targeted you to shut you up? You weren't silenced, merely rendered communicatively challenged. There were plenty of ways to get around that punishment. Especially if your words were transcribed 1 for 1 into new words, and repeated usage of the same word always resulted in the same resulting word being substituted. Just type a ton of gibberish words, then see what words get substituted. Now you know which word will result for a bunch of words you could possibly use. From there it's very easy to make an acrostic message. (for example: after discovering that using the word 'vote' results in 'never'; 'I' results in 'eat'; and 'Aerso' results in 'orange' you could have said Vote I Aerso Vote which would have resulted in Never Eat Orange Never. Would have been easy for us to identify the word NEON from that. It's a bit of work, but doable.

3 - You claim that you FORGOT that we were in an infected game and that's why you argue that NL wasn't optimal? Firstly, what difference does it make whether it's an infected game or not? And secondly, it was YOU who started that wagon. How in the world can you forget we're in an infected game when I spent multiple posts speculating that the cause of your speech impediment was because YOU MIGHT HAVE SCANNED AN INFECTED PERSON??

The more you say now that you can speak clearly, the more I'm beginning to suspect that you are one of the infected and are trying your best to sow confusion among our  ranks. First by speaking gibberish, and now by flip flopping all of your reads. It's as if you don't want the town to feel like they can trust anyone (which I know is pretty much the norm for these games, but it's very rare to see an entire reads list flipped backwards so suddenly).

Vote: Eastern New England


I know it's night. I'm just practicing for the day phase, assuming I survive that long.

ENE would be the first person I would scan at this point, if I had that ability...

And let's face it - your 'transcription' of what you meant to say vs how it actually came out? Easily faked, although probably not. There are a couple of tiny problems I've found with it.

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I hope it's warm in there!


You meant to type 6 words, and the gibberish contains 7?

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I do not want to risk breaking my post restriction.



In every other instance that you used the word 'I' it was changed to 'rate' - but not here. Your mistake or the hosts?

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Vote: No Lynch

Oh shit, it's mis-lynch or lose!




He word Lose is the same in plaintext and coded... Coincidence or not?

And let's face it - your 'transcription' of what you meant to say vs how it actually came out? Easily faked, although probably not. There are a couple of tiny problems I've found with it.

Rate lip particle introduce disturbance extend dangerous!

I hope it's warm in there!


You meant to type 6 words, and the gibberish contains 7?

Particle confuse session go column run cunning fun barrel fist.

I do not want to risk breaking my post restriction.



In every other instance that you used the word 'I' it was changed to 'rate' - but not here. Your mistake or the hosts?

Superintendent trench! Particle introduce shoulder accessible lose!

Vote: No Lynch

Oh shit, it's mis-lynch or lose!




HERE THE word Lose is the same in plaintext and coded... Coincidence or not?

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