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ok nevermind a watcher explains everything lmao

Arenado is good I'm shooting Dolby 

wrt to Arena

Not a traditional tracker like you seem to be, Michi. Probably something else though names escape me (watcher, fountain watch, something something). In any event, it's possible, too, that Dolby is immune to being tracked thus why you were still in the studio (if the flavor is literal I would imagine). Arena, on the other hand, could have witnessed a visit. That is, he was in the room with Glorious Bob when Dolby visited (throwback to "I read I read in my bed" or some such).

Normally I'd agree it could be immunity thing, and actually that was my first assumption and partly why I was extra interested in Dolby in the second day on top of what I was already looking at, though I also juggled the idea in my head that it could have been someone else who negated my power (which seemed unlikely since I hadn't mentioned my ability) or someone was protecting him.  When I replied to Mele, I was legit confused what would cause that result before I ran those possible scenarios in my head.

The problem is that I was given clarification earlier this night by our host as to what would cause that quiet result (which confirmed to me that I did in fact find nothing that first night), and the only two situations I was given were that either my target did nothing, or they weren't targeted.  So the idea of them being immune kinda got thrown out of the window, as did the idea that someone else used a power on them since I would have at least seen that they were targeted.

This changes everything.

REEVALUATION TIME!

ok nevermind a watcher explains everything lmao

Arenado is good I'm shooting Dolby

Ex wait! Michi claims his Tracker flavor result contradicts the watch result.

Things are messy rn.

Bear with me.

Assuming both Michi and Aren are NOT lying, these things all have to be true:

1) Aren watched GloriousBob (Mac) N1.
a) Aren saw Dolby visit Mac.
b) Mac died.

2) Michi followed Dolby N1.
a) Michi's result was posted as flavor: it was a whole lot of nothing.
b) Host clarification says that the only way to get a nothing result is if Dolby both did nothing and was not targeted that night.

3) For both statements to be true, there must exist a role that can switch players without targeting them.

4) There's probably a bus driver, and they are maf-sided.

5) The bus driver probably swapped Aerso and Dolby.
a) Aerso claimed no powers, therefore meeting the "does nothing condition" of Michi's tracking.
b) Aren would be unaffected by any driving since he targeted Mac, not Dolby.
c) This makes sense as a factional action, making Dolby most likely a wolf, not SK.
d) Lau's ability does not block NKs if Dolby is wolf.

@ExLight

If there is a bus driver in the game, shooting Dolby is a bad idea as he's the most likely to be swapped with town (probably Michi or Aren). I'd say shoot outside those 3 names, and I'd personally avoid shooting Vro, Aerso, or Ruguo.

Vote: No Lynch

this is a betrayal of momentus proportions

ExLight Quote

Which by the way is gross. Affirming that me and Dolby can't be same alignment is just nasty because a scum can just say that to have a follow mislynch when one of them flips green. If anything my interaction with Dolby shows that we're not likely to be scum together, which still includes the possibility of Town-Town; which is removed when people simply come here saying hurr durr you two aren't the same alignment

I'd be surprised if you both flipped town. I don't see anything wrong with that, seeing that you two are my largest scum-reads. I'm not going to say: "You're right, my top two scum-reads are probably just both town." I never said you couldn't be scum-scum. That's nothing I've looked into. That's something you added in there yourself.

I have literally claimed my role in-thread and the fact people aren't considering it before running their mouth first vomit nonsense shows they're either being malicious or straight up fucking lazy and should go back and do their basic shit before vomiting misvotes here. You're just saying you don't like my posts, then do us the basic and tell is WHAT you don't like about our posts? Because what I mainly did was complain that people were faking restrictions as a way of CWACing all Day which made things convoluted and more favorable to scum, what about looks so bad to the point of yall setting up the terrain for a CFD on me?
Is it my scumread on Dolby due to what I perceived as an attempt of rolefish information out of Laurentus? Is it my scumread on ENE over him overthinking scenarios and wordings to throw shade at people? Is it my disappointment at the players faking restrictions and providing no relevant content like reads? Step the fuck up and explain what you find so scummy about me because I've been busting my ass here and reaching closer and closer to the cap while yall almost getting modkilled for inactivity aint doing shit but bark at the wrong tree if yall remotely considering lynching me. I might be adopting a more aggressive posture this game but unfortunately this is the way it has to go when almost 1/2 of the game is barely saying anything or posting nonsense.

The game isn't even inactive. I find it scummy of you for getting mad at people not giving a case why they're voting you and yet you're scum-reading people for "almost getting modkilled for inactivity". A game with a 2-post minimum over 48 hours will attract players that are only planning to post a couple times per day phase. And there's nothing wrong with that. Getting mad at them for being wrong (in your opinion) doesn't help.

Yes, I appreciate when players actively try to solve the game, but going on a rant when you have accumulated two votes and getting aggressive at low-posters isn't really the way to go. Your "aggressive posture" has nothing to do with you constantly trying to discredit people (my 2nd and 3rd post regarding Lau/Aerso; Anub, Gerrick and me for "shading" you; KoD's vote on you; literally all low-posters as well as a lot of the players with post restrictions).

Dolby was literally accused of being the serial killer, and I repeat: didn't refute it when he was called it, and despite of what it seems didn't refute it when they were called out by me about it (wasting time posting "do I really have to make a post saying I'm not the SK" is still not the same as saying "I'm not the SK", and so they still havent refuted the accusation).

Didn't you literally just say "[...] includes the possibility of town-town" between you and Dolby? Or are you just trying to come up with reasons why scum-reading Dolby is wrong when I do it, but correct when you do it?

The game wasn't inactive?
up to the last few hours of yesterday D2 had barely any posts from half of the members, this included KoD, Marzipan, Anubhav, Wischland, Silver, Gerrick, and *You*.
Not mentioning players that took a while to post stuff like Aerso, Arenado, Vroendal, and Mele.
If the game isn't inactive it's because of a few people like me, Dolby, and Lau who have been using their post cap as much as they can as opposed to you. 🙄 If the game is more active now maybe you should consider that it was BECAUSE players like me were constantly prodding for activity instead of coming here saying "uuh akshually game is active". You were barely in the thread unless you're lurking, who are you to evaluate the activity better than any of the previously mentioned members? Like jesus, you can just look for Hapi posts and you'll see she had to prod them multiple times inside and outside the thread to get the posting.

And you can be scumreading Dolby and/or me, but you're not doing that; you're picking two people who are on opposite sides of a discussion and saying "oh one of them MUST be scum", which is different from having arguments for both of them.

it makes literally no sense to say one of us isn't town rather than say we can't be scum together other than push an agenda on trying to lazily lynch both of us because you're not even bothering to present arguments on those reads other than just comparing us

We seem to have different ideas of inactive and I don't feel like arguing about what the definition of inactive is right now. Stop trying to white-knight active players and scum-reading less active players. It's counter-productive. A person being active or "inactive" is NAI either way. You seem to be pushing the idea that less active players don't have the right or the privilege to come with their thoughts and this form of activity-elitism hurts the thread more than anything. But of course my opinion is invalidated since I haven't hit the post cap.

Nowhere did I say "MUST" be scum. There is a clear difference between saying "ExLight and Dolby MUST be scum, I can't be wrong". I'd just be genuinely surprised if both of you are town. It's not impossible, though. I clearly stated a case for Dolby in my post replying to his quote and I've also given clear reasons I scum-read you in the post you are quoting, so I find it hard to believe that I'm not even "bothering to present arguments". One of my reasons was actually your attempts at discrediting people, which you have pretty much just proven in this post.

Last post of the phase for me, but for those of you wondering where the maf-sided bus driver theory came from and why I believe it strongly over the possibility of Aren lying, I'm looking at this whole situation from a game balance perspective. Right now, we have at least 2 confirmed strong investigators, 3 if you believe Aren. That's a lot of strong investigators, and so there needs a way for the wolves to counter those investigators. The role that probably comes to mind immediately for most of you is godfather, but a maf-sided bus driver in an open setup where the roles are all known is also very effective. A bus driver in a closed setup like this, especially paired with a passive janitor, is even more effective, and I think an excellent balance to 3 strong investigators. Combined with the conflicting reports being easily explained by the presence of a bus driver, and I believe it is far, far more likely we have a bus driver than Aren lying.

To look at it from another angle, what does Aren have to gain by lying about his role and ability? Watching is not something easily faked, and it's a very high risk claim to make because the moment there's an inconsistency, like what happened this night phase, Aren becomes an immedate target. There is no benefit to Aren for claiming Watcher in a game where the roles are unknown. Therefore, it is incredibly unlikely that Aren is lying.

Also Lau, I expect you to come clean tomorrow. Or else.

Dunno if I'll read the thread before start of day. Can anyone tell me what's going on with Lau? Abbi sent me a recap of what's went on, but it was highlights. Mostly I'm wondering why people have followed his no lynch thing for 2 days. 

^{15 minutes until day start <3}

Becky walked into the apartment with the camera on and smiled at it. "Anyways thanks for coming around London with me. I don't know who's going to take you out tomorrow!" She turned off the camera and ran into the living room jumping over the back of the couch and sprawling out over it. Leigh walked into the room and smiled lightly.

"Never change Beck," she said, kneeling by the couch and ruffling her hair. "You're perfect."

"Thanks, any info on what you saw yesterday?"

"No but I did some research and it looks like there were several murders around London earlier this month it looks like over time the media just kind of stopped talking about it."

"That's really weird Leigh…" Becky's voice trailed off. "Maybe we should investigate it."

"I've been thinking about going out again…but not tonight Em would probably kill us before any murderer could." Leigh smiled. "Let's just relax tonight." She picked Becky up and sat down next to her, turning on the TV.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

"Good evening London," Liam smiled at the camera. "I'm your man on the street reporting live from downtown. Rumors are suggesting that a body was found around here last night but so far the police and the mayor's office are refusing to comment. I don't have much else to add here as I've been downtown all night and nothing has happened here."

The studio cut in smiling "thanks Liam we all are dedicated to finding out what is really happening in London. Now on to our top story Neon is back in London and all of her week-long shows have already sold out!"

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Inside a local pub a man walks in wearing a police uniform. 

“HEY!” the bartender says, looking at the officer. “It’s my number one customer, how’s it going chief?” 

“Jaxson,” the police chief said, clasping him on the shoulder, “I’m begging you give me your absolute strongest liquor.” 

“Just one of those days huh John?” the bartender asked, grabbing a bottle from behind the counter and reaching for a glass.

“Whole bottle please,” the chief said with a slight smile sticking out his hand. After a few hours he was two bottles in and absolutely sloshed when a police detective walked in covering his face. He smiled. “Hey Sammy, what do you want?” his words slurred.

“Might wanna step outside,” the detective said. “Only problem was I was hopin you’d be sober for this one.” The chief looked at the detective and sighed. Grabbing his coat, they walked into a back alley near the bar where the body of a young man lay. “Found this on my way to found you,” Sammy said coldly.

“Call Jacob, no lights, keep it quiet,” the chief said with a sigh.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

At the coroner's office a police detective slams the door open, nearly knocking it off its hinges. “Oh hello Jacob,” the coroner says without looking up from his work.

“Look Harold, I am really seriously going to need you to send me unredacted files,” Jacob clenched his fists, the anger in his voice palpable. 

“I don’t work for you Jacob,” Harold said with a laugh. “Know this, I would reveal what I know if I could, I find it odd that the chief and the mayor would specifically ask me to hide certain information in my reports, but I can not risk my job.”

“HAROLD!” Jacob shouted slamming the metal table. “You are going to ruin everything. This whole investigation is at risk if I can’t get the info I need. People are in danger! More civilians are going to die.”

“I’m sorry Jacob my hands are tied,” he sighed, “please leave my office and come back when you are more calm.”

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ExLight was killed last night he was REDACTED a member of REDACTED and his role was REDACTED

Day 3 begins now day 3 will continue until 4 PM Central on April 6th unless a majority is reached before then! Majority is currently 8 votes.

Also this


@Eastern New England
@Michi
@Gerrick
@TGN
@Aersoldorf
@Dolby
@Marzipan
@Anubhav Ghosh
@Laurentus
@KingofDominaria
@Arenado
@Vroendal
@Ruguo
@Wischland
@Melehan
@Minish

Fucking christ, could you guys spew more info into the thread if you tried? The fact Ex didn't get a kill off means his ability failed. If you have not already revealed your role, don't do it, under any circumstances. 

Okay, so I need to address a few things: Mel, your theory is rock solid, and I really don't know how the hell I'm going to convince you, because I myself am only given so much info to work with. One thing I know for absolute certain (unless the host is quite literally fucking with me, in which case LOL): If No Lynch succeeds for a day, there shouldn't be a scum kill. 

Frankly, I've been playing a WIFOM game with a certain role I was warned was hunting me the whole time, so I figured the best way to succeed was to stoke the fires just enough to make people think I might be 3P by delivering my info in a very care-free and memey way, but leave enough info out there should I get killed for people to piece together what the real intent behind my mission was after I flipped. That has horribly backfired since it seems literally all alignments are going to be redacted until we achieve some conditional, so I'll just say it straight: if your plan is to vote-wall me or someone else today to back up your "or else" threat, you are quite literally throwing the game, Mel. 

There are certain things I am not allowed to say about my role, so frankly I'm amazed that my plan has come as far as it has, and I honestly don't expect I'll succeed today, but if I do, I would have satisfied the main objective of my role card and frankly it won't matter if the person hunting me kills me anymore, Town should have a significantly reduced threat. 

...it seems literally all alignments are going to be redacted until we achieve some conditional...

At the coroner's office a police detective slams the door open, nearly knocking it off its hinges. “Oh hello Jacob,” the coroner says without looking up from his work.

“Look Harold, I am really seriously going to need you to send me unredacted files,” Jacob clenched his fists, the anger in his voice palpable.

“I don’t work for you Jacob,” Harold said with a laugh. “Know this, I would reveal what I know if I could, I find it odd that the chief and the mayor would specifically ask me to hide certain information in my reports, but I can not risk my job.”

“HAROLD!” Jacob shouted slamming the metal table. “You are going to ruin everything. This whole investigation is at risk if I can’t get the info I need. People are in danger! More civilians are going to die.”

“I’m sorry Jacob my hands are tied,” he sighed, “please leave my office and come back when you are more calm.”

...it seems literally all alignments are going to be redacted until we achieve some conditional...

At the coroner's office a police detective slams the door open, nearly knocking it off its hinges. “Oh hello Jacob,” the coroner says without looking up from his work.

“Look Harold, I am really seriously going to need you to send me unredacted files,” Jacob clenched his fists, the anger in his voice palpable.

“I don’t work for you Jacob,” Harold said with a laugh. “Know this, I would reveal what I know if I could, I find it odd that the chief and the mayor would specifically ask me to hide certain information in my reports, but I can not risk my job.”

“HAROLD!” Jacob shouted slamming the metal table. “You are going to ruin everything. This whole investigation is at risk if I can’t get the info I need. People are in danger! More civilians are going to die.”

“I’m sorry Jacob my hands are tied,” he sighed, “please leave my office and come back when you are more calm.”

I'll note the irony of this post-game.