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  • It’s no secret that we’ve wanted a Werewolf system for years now, but have put off actually making it. It’s a lot of work, and there always seems to be so many other things to do in Wintreath and in life, so it just got brushed off. To be honest, when @Laurentus asked if I could make a vote counting feature for the game that’s going on now, I was a bit incredulous. It’s taking me an hour to just read through the game’s posts, and you want me to spend more time developing for it? Really?

    But later on a feeling came over me that now was the time to do it no matter how much time and work it took, to the point that I coded through the night, got a few hours of sleep, and then coded through most of the day…13 hours in all! But here we have it, a basic, functional Werewolf system where none existed yesterday!

    For Game Hosts
    Game hosts have two abilities to support the vote-counting feature. The first is to advance the phase clock (because we need to know what day votes are being made for), and the second is to indicate that a player has died (because dead players shouldn’t be able to vote).

    For Players
    Auto-votes (as Laurentus called it) and vote counting! To vote, just use the [vote] BBCode, with the name of the player you are voting for between the tags. You can also use “Unvote” or “No Lynch” to indicate that you are actively choosing not to vote. The system handles Unvotes and No Lynches the same, but I recognize that depending on the game hosts may want to keep track of who voted for which (and we can code different things for them in the future if the need arises). If you’re switching your vote to another player, you don’t have to unvote and then vote for the player. Just directly vote for the player and the system will handle it.

    Obviously, it’s important that you spell the name of the player you are voting for correctly, because misspelled votes cannot be counted by the system. If you want to check if your vote has been counted, you can do that on the votes page by clicking “Votes” at the top of the Werewolf topic. All votes are listed in order of earliest post to latest post (so new votes would be at the bottom), as well as a count of who is voting for who so you know who has the most votes and who hasn’t voted yet. By default votes for the current game day will appear, but you can select any past day to see what went on in previous rounds.

    I hope that at the very least this will help hosts and players who before had to manually go through every post and count the votes.

    The Future
    If you have any questions about using the system, feel free to ping me in the current Werewolf game (if you’re playing it) or make a topic in Wolvesbane Tavern. I’m happy to answer questions or help as needed.

    I know this is a basic system, and over time I plan on adding more to it as I figure out what will most help hosts and players. If you have thoughts or ideas, please feel free to share them in the Wolvesbane Tavern forum! If and when we implement something will depend on a lot of things. For example, I can’t do anything that involves roles while I’m a player in the game we’re testing with. But we can at least discuss ideas and make plans on how to grow it over time. :D

    Also, if you would like to financially support the development I do for Werewolf and other things in Wintreath, I always appreciate our donators and Patrons! Donations first go to webhosting costs and other things the website needs, and then whatever is left over goes to me personally. Of course there’s no pressure, and donators don’t get anything in return that would give them an advantage in any aspect of Wintreath over anyone else. However, if you’d like to contribute, check out our donate page for information on how to do so through PayPal or Patreon! :)


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  • Already fixed a few bugs:

    • BUG: Spaces between the tag and the name within ([tag] name [/tag]) would invalidate a vote
    • BUG: Quoting a post where someone voted would be counted as a vote from you as well

    At least for the next few rounds of the current game, I would urge people to check the vote log and make sure their votes were registered, in case there are other bugs.
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  • So I can put spaces now?
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  • I think. Just between the tag and the name, not within the name (unless the name has spaces).
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  • Just browsing the first few attempts to vote, maybe also a good idea to make the tag case insensitive? bbcode tends to do that.
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  • Is it perhaps possible to add a dedicated vote button? Actually would be pretty useful even for shit like elections. Also, MU has a drop-down menu to select only from players currently in the game, which is also cool because then it doesn't have the risk of mistyping someone's name. 

    But yeah, this is incredible, and the changes made have already made a massive improvement to the way the game can be played. 
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  • The next update to the system will probably come later in the week. Got some other things to catch up on before then. :P

    I am keeping a list of bugs and requested features, though. :)
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  • Some Additional Updates

    Bug Fixes
    • Fixed issue where votes that were in posts with certain kids of quotes would not register
    • Fixed issue where people who weren't logged in could see host options
    • The vote tag is now case insensitive, meaning that VoTe will work just as well as vote
    • Dead players can no longer cast votes
    Host Features
    • Game hosts can now reverse a phase, helpful if it's been advanced too far :P
    • Game hosts can strike player votes from the record (the X) button by the vote list, which means the vote will not be counted toward the tallies. Hosts will be prompted for a reason, which will be displayed with the stricken vote.
    • Game hosts can now revive a player after they have died (this involved a complete overhaul of the player status system, which assumed that once dead players would remain so). This also required updates in the code that removed dead players from vote tallies.
    Player Features
    • Players can now select their vote from the vote dropdown, which is the last button on the list of BB buttons (beside the spoiler button). Selecting a player name will automatically place the vote, complete with player's name, in the editor. This was a pain in the ass to get working, btw. v_v


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  • Great work. Thank you so much. Is there a chance that along with being able to remove a players vote we could make a players vote count for more than one vote by host. I know in some games players can have a vote that counts for more than the normal
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  • Great work. Thank you so much. Is there a chance that along with being able to remove a players vote we could make a players vote count for more than one vote by host. I know in some games players can have a vote that counts for more than the normal
    Thank you. :)

    We've never had a game like that in Wintreath, but...would the player's vote have more weight for like a single turn, or throughout the game, or both?

    Also would like to hear from @Laurentus, @Michi, and @Ruguo on this if they have any thoughts on this (but don't feel pressured to if you don't have any thoughts :P).


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  • Great work. Thank you so much. Is there a chance that along with being able to remove a players vote we could make a players vote count for more than one vote by host. I know in some games players can have a vote that counts for more than the normal
    Thank you. :)

    We've never had a game like that in Wintreath, but...would the player's vote have more weight for like a single turn, or throughout the game, or both?

    Also would like to hear from @Laurentus, @Michi, and @Ruguo on this if they have any thoughts on this (but don't feel pressured to if you don't have any thoughts :P).
    Potentially both I'd think
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  • Great work. Thank you so much. Is there a chance that along with being able to remove a players vote we could make a players vote count for more than one vote by host. I know in some games players can have a vote that counts for more than the normal
    Thank you. :)

    We've never had a game like that in Wintreath, but...would the player's vote have more weight for like a single turn, or throughout the game, or both?

    Also would like to hear from @Laurentus, @Michi, and @Ruguo on this if they have any thoughts on this (but don't feel pressured to if you don't have any thoughts :P).
    Uh...

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    Yes, this is a feature I'd like to see, or a way for a host to manually edit someone's vote. Because I have definitely played with voting power before (Portal defs had people with no votes and botwolf have people with a finite amount of votes/6 votes at once). So it could be both, it could be they ran out of votes, it could be they never had a vote, it could be they stole someone else's vote and moved it.
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  • I'll, uh, discuss this once the current game concludes, lol. 
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  • Loving the new features so far, I love that you're making voting a super easy process, and I can't wait to see what comes up next.

    While I don't plan on jumping on the vote adding/subtracting/stealing board for my games anytime soon, I support the idea in the case of games where such roles exist.

    Though I'm eager to see what Lau is going to say on the subject.
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