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Neon isn't cult so Gerrick isn't cult, but he's definitely flying off into self preservation mode. Guess you got him worried that regardless if Abi died he would too. Might be something worth looking into for any scanners out there.

Also Aers, your numbers are off because Neon got to start the game pulling a neighbor. Moon was first, I was second. Vro was third. Coz was fourth. You would have been fifth if ENE hadn't jailkept her to protect her. Gerrick just bounced in today. So if you wanna continue to argue that cult got to come in pre recruiting with members having their alignment hidden on the flip, I don't suppose I'll stop you but frankly you'll have to throw logic and reason out the window to do it.

Not sure what that last sentence means, but I didn't realize that she was able to start the game with a neighbor. That certainly changes the math somewhat so I'll have to rethink things with that in mind. Bit busy at work right now so it will have to wait until I get home this afternoon, or possibly tomorrow.

To be fair I started with a neighbor because our abilities relied heavily on each other. And I guess the cats entirely out of the bag now. 

So if you're worried about me changing wincons please look at my dead neighbors. Vro was mafia Batman exactly as I told you,  with a town Scarecrow of they found Ruby Red which honestly my town was an easy way to do. My fault really shouldn't of killed Vro.

Vro open wolfed in my town because they knew I could help and they were already outted by Moondrop anyways there was no reason to hide it. 

Moondrop is dead they were still town. I think you need to readjust your ideas on how I win. 

and lol I'm not letting you lynch moot

Why?

because he's a pretty important role for late game town

Vote: Neon Abigail

Mind telling me what role Moot has? Cause I certainly don't know it

I certainly don't have any idea what his role is, but I can tell you for a fact that he can steal a vote from someone and place it on the person that he votes for. I noticed a discrepancy in the vote totals listed at EoD1 compared with the number of names listed beside each recipient, but chalked it up to human error in the counting/posting of the results. At EoD2 it was more obvious, since we had the vote feature by that time and so the discrepancy could no longer be attributed to a mistake made by one of the hosts. At first I thought that he might just have 2 votes himself, but then I noticed that wagons that he didn't vote for were missing a vote on each of the first 2 days - that's how I came to the conclusion that he's stealing or redirecting votes rather than having multiple votes himself. That can be of massive benefit to the town at the end of the game.

And I don't care how you win, I simply know that your win condition does not benefit the town, it benefits you. Which means that you need to go. The fact that Vro 'openwolfed in your town because he knew you could help' is an argument FOR lynching you. If a confirmed scum was willing to work with you then that definitely proves that your interests and the town's interests are not the same.

This explains a lot from another thread actually lol

I certainly don't have any idea what his role is, but I can tell you for a fact that he can steal a vote from someone and place it on the person that he votes for. I noticed a discrepancy in the vote totals listed at EoD1 compared with the number of names listed beside each recipient, but chalked it up to human error in the counting/posting of the results. At EoD2 it was more obvious, since we had the vote feature by that time and so the discrepancy could no longer be attributed to a mistake made by one of the hosts. At first I thought that he might just have 2 votes himself, but then I noticed that wagons that he didn't vote for were missing a vote on each of the first 2 days - that's how I came to the conclusion that he's stealing or redirecting votes rather than having multiple votes himself. That can be of massive benefit to the town at the end of the game.

And I don't care how you win, I simply know that your win condition does not benefit the town, it benefits you. Which means that you need to go. The fact that Vro 'openwolfed in your town because he knew you could help' is an argument FOR lynching you. If a confirmed scum was willing to work with you then that definitely proves that your interests and the town's interests are not the same.

A scum who was not scum but yanno kill me, I've clearly worked with town. In fact at this point I think it's the wolves who are most scared of me because I can out them pretty easily yeah?

I have given you a wolf. I've given you the Arso it's not my fault they are unkillable. Vro open wolfed because they knew my town was the way they flipped town and they were right because my tracker had the info they would've needed.

But frankly I've been screwed since D1 and if you think that killing me benefits you that's the biggest mistake you will EVER make this game. And frankly I'd think hard about the odds you win the moment I die because fun fact my townies don't die when I do. And I'm still the one who knew what they were. What have any of you done for town?

So far the only dead wolf was me.  The dead 3P day 1 was me. Your knowledge of who the Arso is that was me too. I'm the only person who has given this town anything. Which should tell you everything you need to know about me.

I have given you a wolf. I've given you the Arso it's not my fault they are unkillable. Vro open wolfed because they knew my town was the way they flipped town and they were right because my tracker had the info they would've needed.

But frankly I've been screwed since D1 and if you think that killing me benefits you that's the biggest mistake you will EVER make this game. And frankly I'd think hard about the odds you win the moment I die because fun fact my townies don't die when I do. And I'm still the one who knew what they were. What have any of you done for town?

So far the only dead wolf was me.  The dead 3P day 1 was me. Your knowledge of who the Arso is that was me too. I'm the only person who has given this town anything. Which should tell you everything you need to know about me.

You gave us a wolf who wouldn't help you by outing his team. And the 3p on D1 was the most harmless 3p ever according to the flavor at EoD - I haven't even bothered trying to find what that role actually was that game because there's a lot of difference between previous roles and their counterparts this game. And claiming that you gave us the Arsonist also hasn't really helped us because we don't know how to kill him.

It only makes sense that you and Gerrick and NoName would all say that the cult members don't die when you do. Maybe that's true, and maybe it's not - you'd all say the same thing either way. Coz hasn't come forward with her input yet but I would expect her to toe the line with the rest of your mutants. Beat your chest all you want, the only thing you gave the town was Vro, who refused to help you by outing his team. I'm not concerned with helping your cult win, I'm trying to give the town a win. Those are clearly two different goals.

And I'm no longer interested in joining your tea parties.

A scum who was not scum but yanno kill me, I've clearly worked with town. In fact at this point I think it's the wolves who are most scared of me because I can out them pretty easily yeah?

Then out them and let's move forward. Keeping their identities to yourself only further proves that you don't have the town's best interests at heart.

A scum who was not scum but yanno kill me, I've clearly worked with town. In fact at this point I think it's the wolves who are most scared of me because I can out them pretty easily yeah?

Then out them and let's move forward. Keeping their identities to yourself only further proves that you don't have the town's best interests at heart.

Sometimes it feels like nobody listens. I learn the role of anyone in my town. In other words scum hunting = me. I am the hunter. 

I have given you a wolf. I've given you the Arso it's not my fault they are unkillable. Vro open wolfed because they knew my town was the way they flipped town and they were right because my tracker had the info they would've needed.

But frankly I've been screwed since D1 and if you think that killing me benefits you that's the biggest mistake you will EVER make this game. And frankly I'd think hard about the odds you win the moment I die because fun fact my townies don't die when I do. And I'm still the one who knew what they were. What have any of you done for town?

So far the only dead wolf was me.  The dead 3P day 1 was me. Your knowledge of who the Arso is that was me too. I'm the only person who has given this town anything. Which should tell you everything you need to know about me.

You gave us a wolf who wouldn't help you by outing his team. And the 3p on D1 was the most harmless 3p ever according to the flavor at EoD - I haven't even bothered trying to find what that role actually was that game because there's a lot of difference between previous roles and their counterparts this game. And claiming that you gave us the Arsonist also hasn't really helped us because we don't know how to kill him.

It only makes sense that you and Gerrick and NoName would all say that the cult members don't die when you do. Maybe that's true, and maybe it's not - you'd all say the same thing either way. Coz hasn't come forward with her input yet but I would expect her to toe the line with the rest of your mutants. Beat your chest all you want, the only thing you gave the town was Vro, who refused to help you by outing his team. I'm not concerned with helping your cult win, I'm trying to give the town a win. Those are clearly two different goals.

Oh no I never asked Vro for their scum buddies I just listened to what they had to say. I have you scum because I was invested in town. Still am but at this point you're turning on me even though I've clearly told you every single time I got info on a bad guy.

Kill me. Die on this hill. If your town and your voting me you lose. If you're scum and your voting me,  well yeah I've shown I can kill you. 

if neon isn't cult then what the hell is going on today

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[unvote]Neon Abigail[/unvote]

one of these gotta work right

I certainly don't have any idea what his role is, but I can tell you for a fact that he can steal a vote from someone and place it on the person that he votes for. I noticed a discrepancy in the vote totals listed at EoD1 compared with the number of names listed beside each recipient, but chalked it up to human error in the counting/posting of the results. At EoD2 it was more obvious, since we had the vote feature by that time and so the discrepancy could no longer be attributed to a mistake made by one of the hosts. At first I thought that he might just have 2 votes himself, but then I noticed that wagons that he didn't vote for were missing a vote on each of the first 2 days - that's how I came to the conclusion that he's stealing or redirecting votes rather than having multiple votes himself. That can be of massive benefit to the town at the end of the game.

And I don't care how you win, I simply know that your win condition does not benefit the town, it benefits you. Which means that you need to go. The fact that Vro 'openwolfed in your town because he knew you could help' is an argument FOR lynching you. If a confirmed scum was willing to work with you then that definitely proves that your interests and the town's interests are not the same.

I like how you just up and decide this super shady move is pro town with no basis what so ever. 

As for the last sentence in my last post, it's basic. There is no logical nor reasonable basis for your assertion that Neon is cult. It's strictly fear mongering. Meanwhile I've been providing multiple counter points in the form of her headstart and dead neighbors not flipping cult. If you took five minutes to think on it you'd probably see how bjorked a cult would be in such a situation. This is likely why Ex has quelled. But I think your Wolfy blood lust is getting the best of you here and it's likely going to be the death of you. 

@ExLight, Neon is towing my line because I made it clear that I was dousing her last night. Survivor 3ps are easy to take control of when you're an unstoppable killing force.