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Lil' Wolf I: Party On, Wolves
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  • It's my mistake for splitting the vote the previous day phase, but I ain't gonna make the same mistake this phase. We should come to a consensus way before the day phase ends, and fix the votes in. 
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  • I will stand for the consensus , who is the consensus scumread?
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  • It is yet to be determined, just that based on previous day discussion it's between tau and BSR 
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  • @Vroendal

    Okay, so it took me quite a while to find the post you were talking about because I wasn't talking about Doc. I just have terrible clarity when posting on forums.

    The deflecting comment was about LOS. I was commenting on how last game he'd spent a lot of time directing the conversation so I knew he had some decent reasoning capabilities. It was me tunneling on him.
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  • As far as my role reveal goes, I'd been debating it for a day or two before hand because I wasn't sure if I was allowed to. I didn't know if revealing that I wasn't a power role would get me modkilled the same as revealing as a power role. So I checked with Michi that day to make sure it was okay. 

    Once I got the clearance to do so I did it. And like you said, the Humans took advantage of that and made their move. In hindsight it may not have been the best idea. But I also didn't want to have it come back on me later on if the actual defender was night killed. 
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    Why BSR?
    And why BSR over tau or Nyght?
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  • My guess would be BSR's general lurkiness. But it's not really a solid tell. I'm curious as to why you've suddenly hopped on me as a possibility. I get that it seems odd, the timing of my role reveal(or lack thereof). However, I have been actively trying to root out what suspicious activity I can using my limited knowledge of the game. 

    Do you have any reason to suspect me? Is there any behaviour which has struck a nerve that I might be able to explain? And is there anything that I can do to help with said rooting out of humans?
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  • My guess would be BSR's general lurkiness. But it's not really a solid tell. I'm curious as to why you've suddenly hopped on me as a possibility. I get that it seems odd, the timing of my role reveal(or lack thereof). However, I have been actively trying to root out what suspicious activity I can using my limited knowledge of the game.

    Do you have any reason to suspect me? Is there any behaviour which has struck a nerve that I might be able to explain? And is there anything that I can do to help with said rooting out of humans?
    I suspected cozmik to be the final defender since before I subbed in. While Legacy put you high in his read lists, you started off putting him low and actually made a push on him, the nature of your push did not indicate to me that you were a pair. Cozmik on the other hand was both put high in reads lists by Legacy and put Legacy high in reads lists herself, making me think they were the most likely to be paired. Granting that, I've had you as a possibility for a while now via PoE and doubt, but in the interest of confusing the humans with Sapph's theory I didn't make it clear until cozmik had defended one more player.

    Putting Doc high in your reads list in the early game could indicate that you were helping him to go deep and were keeping him off the chopping-block early on as a result of having multiple players buy into his towniness. The push on Legacy does give me pause as well, getting rid of someone who's a stronger player here early on would be very beneficial to the human team.

    Despite this, I'm still town-reading your behavior and content, added with the comparison in behavior from the last game. I just want to be extremely careful here as our numbers whittle down, we also no longer have a defender to prevent night kills.

    I think I'm going to help with the tau lynch here, and if I've been wrong then I'll re-read once more and reassess. I just need to prove this slot as one or the other alignment to feel safer about progressing. If tau flips town then I'll examine you again.

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  • Huh.  Sorry got super bummed out about the game once LoS and Lau left.  :'(

    Umm... I'll vote: TGN to get him to analyze and also to avoid inactivity lynch.

    I'll also hopefully be available later in the week for actual analysis and stuff too :)
    Do you have thoughts at this time you would like to share?
    Yeah, mostly that I'm not entirely sure why tau is garnering so much suspicion.  I don't really think that's reasonable, hence why I definitely support keeping him around.  It seems far too convenient to cast him as a wolf, when we have other candidates for suspicion, including yourself (for domineering and such) and Nyght (just for generally behaving similarly to last game).  

    Consequently, I'm far more comfortable with a Nyght lynch than a tau one, because the tau one seems WAY too convenient.  And if there's anything that the last game has taught us, it's that convenience and surface analysis usually is the friend of the wolves (or in this case, the humans).  That being said, I'm not particularly invested again, as I said, because no Lau/LoS, but alas.

    So, if people agree with me, I'll go Vote: Nyght


    I'm just really not seeing the tau stuff.  Especially because Colby was clear.  So... why is tau suspicious?
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  • Yeah, mostly that I'm not entirely sure why tau is garnering so much suspicion.  I don't really think that's reasonable, hence why I definitely support keeping him around.  It seems far too convenient to cast him as a wolf, when we have other candidates for suspicion, including yourself (for domineering and such) and Nyght (just for generally behaving similarly to last game). 

    Consequently, I'm far more comfortable with a Nyght lynch than a tau one, because the tau one seems WAY too convenient.  And if there's anything that the last game has taught us, it's that convenience and surface analysis usually is the friend of the wolves (or in this case, the humans).  That being said, I'm not particularly invested again, as I said, because no Lau/LoS, but alas.

    So, if people agree with me, I'll go Vote: Nyght


    I'm just really not seeing the tau stuff.  Especially because Colby was clear.  So... why is tau suspicious?
    Trying to prompt discussions is a good thing I'd say, domineering doesn't have to be a bad thing, I pushed against cozmik from being lynched multiple times for one, which definitely worked in our favor for the moment. Would you be able to describe how Nyght has been acting similarly to last game? I've actually thought he was acting differently, having more active participance and a general different feel. Legacy also had what I thought was a pretty good analysis of Nyght starting off, leading Legacy to town-core read Nyght.

    I agree that I've had qualms about tau's lynch being convenient, but with now 1 human left, and TGN having not participated much earlier, I don't think it's too outside of the realms of possibility. If this were following the format of last game, you could be looking at Sapph as well.

    tau is suspicious to me for making safe early-game posts, Doc having made a conscious choice to push Sapph instead, and for not having had what I would call a particularly townie tone or desire to solve until his latest post just now.

    Calling tau too convenient a lynch when there's only 1 human left feels like a Wine In Front Of Me argument. What makes Nyght more suspicious than tau? Because we're leaning to lynch tau instead right now? I'm not following why that makes Nyght a better lynch exactly. The town has been needing to consolidate on a lynch for 2 Day Phases now, if we don't lynch today our chances of winning will be worse. If we lynch tau now and he's a townie we'll be able to move on much more easily into figuring out who the real human is without the constant doubt and distraction.
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  • There's 3 humans total, so be sure to get rid of them before they decide to gang up and beat the hell out of all of you.

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    I'm assuming that since the OP has stated there are 3 humans total and Doc and TGN are gone, the 2 Humans is merely a slight oversight, but maybe it would be good to get that checked because my view of the game will be dramatically changed if there are in fact 2 humans remaining.
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  • There's 3 humans total, so be sure to get rid of them before they decide to gang up and beat the hell out of all of you.

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    I'm assuming that since the OP has stated there are 3 humans total and Doc and TGN are gone, the 2 Humans is merely a slight oversight, but maybe it would be good to get that checked because my view of the game will be dramatically changed if there are in fact 2 humans remaining.
    OH WAIT... I'm dumb, I got confused by TGN being a "Wolf Bud" I feel stupid now, feel free to mock me. Alright I'm back to thinking it's tau and BSR. :p
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  • Huh.  Sorry got super bummed out about the game once LoS and Lau left.  :'(

    Umm... I'll vote: TGN to get him to analyze and also to avoid inactivity lynch.

    I'll also hopefully be available later in the week for actual analysis and stuff too :)
    Do you have thoughts at this time you would like to share?
    Yeah, mostly that I'm not entirely sure why tau is garnering so much suspicion.  I don't really think that's reasonable, hence why I definitely support keeping him around.  It seems far too convenient to cast him as a wolf, when we have other candidates for suspicion, including yourself (for domineering and such) and Nyght (just for generally behaving similarly to last game). 

    Consequently, I'm far more comfortable with a Nyght lynch than a tau one, because the tau one seems WAY too convenient.  And if there's anything that the last game has taught us, it's that convenience and surface analysis usually is the friend of the wolves (or in this case, the humans).  That being said, I'm not particularly invested again, as I said, because no Lau/LoS, but alas.

    So, if people agree with me, I'll go Vote: Nyght


    I'm just really not seeing the tau stuff.  Especially because Colby was clear.  So... why is tau suspicious?
    So I'm really confused by your analysis. Last game I did my best to keep quiet and make posts that were as vapid as possible outside of my first post day 1. I've been coming in each day and checking in. I've explained the reasons behind my thinking(flawed though it may have been.) 

    I find it suspicious that you seem to condemn surface analysis and in the same breath say you're not interested in the game and thus providing bare minimum. 
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