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Lil' Wolf I: Party On, Wolves
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Sapphiron
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  • But Vro why would either of us be stupid enough to be outed as humans coincidentally? You haven't riddled me that.

    How was I in any way connected to the other wolf? And going from that thread, why are you only suddenly trying to take control of the game and narrative now? What changed to give you that sudden desire to control the narrative?
    He has been cleared by Lau, who has been cleared by Hydra. That suggest mech clear by Seer.
    okay I am not letting Vro die, 
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  • But Vro why would either of us be stupid enough to be outed as humans coincidentally? You haven't riddled me that.

    How was I in any way connected to the other wolf? And going from that thread, why are you only suddenly trying to take control of the game and narrative now? What changed to give you that sudden desire to control the narrative?
    One could argue that it's because you think that since you're in the PoE anyway, you might as well try to survive as long as possible.

    Doc town-read you, that could connect you. Most of my case on you is from PoE. I think a lot of players are town, and you're left. You also haven't been analyzing like you said you would be, while I'm not saying I think it's you for that, your lack of engagement is also not helping your case.

    I tried to take control from my first post, and I've had to exert more pressure now that it's clear nothing gets done otherwise.
    My activity levels btw are directly tied to the post limits. I'm able to post more often now, when before I couldn't.

    Do you seriously think it's me here? Who do you think it is?

    @TGN please vote tau. You mean "EBWOP" (Edit By Way Of Post) btw, not EIWOP. You can vote No Lynch.
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  • Didn't the round end over an hour ago?
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  • okay I am not letting Vro die,
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    Tie wouldn't lead to Vro dying tho
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  • okay I am not letting Vro die,
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    Tie wouldn't lead to Vro dying tho

    No, but if we don't lynch a wolf he's probably toast 
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  • Vro: Taulover
    Cozmikrae: Taulover
    Sapphiron: Anub
    Anubhav Ghosh: Vroendal
    Nyght: Taulover
    BraveSirRobin: Vroendal
    Taulover: Vroendal

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    Taulover: 3
    Vroendal: 3
    Anubhav Ghosh: 1

    Didn't vote: TGN


    Sapphiron's vote change was unfortunately not counted since it was made past the deadline, and as per the rule the phase ends exact at that time, regardless if I end it with a post.

    Nobody was killed during this phase, however @TGN has been modkilled due to 2 consecutive phases of not voting, despite being warned at the end of the previous Chillout time to do so.  He was a Wolf Bud.

    And it's time for everyone to just Chill Out! Roles, you know what to do by now.

    Sorry for the delay in this by the way, I've been going over something important today, so I completely neglected the time.

    This phase will end in 24 hours from this post.
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  • Quiet time is over.  @cozmikrae was killed during the night...they were the other Happy Wolf.

    Time for another party!  This phase will end in 48 hours from this post.
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  • Knew it, jesus.

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  • Well fuck. We need to hammer out some dam lynches. I am still on board with lynching Taul if that's the consensus.

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  • It's so painfully obvious at this point. 
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  • tau and Sapph, who do you think the human team is? You don't have to be sure, you don't have to be right, just state three names.
    If I'm being completely honest I'm not really reading anyone as Human particularly, I mostly just have people I think are villagers, and the remaining people being null reads.

    So (these are not in any particular order, mostly just ordered by going down through the player list in the OP):
    Seem to be villager based on behavior: Doc, Sapph
    Seemingly mechanically cleared: Vroendal, Hydra
    Null: cozmik, Nyght (Sapph has made interesting mechanical arguments for Nyght as defender but I haven't taken the time to think about it), TGN, Gerrick, Anubhav, Robin

    I haven't liked arguments made by NyghtOwl and Gerrick, but that's NAI.

    Hydra's and Robin's behaviors seem in line with the "old people who are busy" crowd. Something similar might also apply to cozmik, but I'm not familiar with her at all. Also the last-minute Gerrick vote was weird, especially after mechanically presumed villager (i.e. Vroendal) insisted that everyone vote for me. But that could just be chalked down to not thinking through Sapph's Hydra/Vroendal argument, since cozmik seems possibly busy.

    As stated in previous days, TGN's behavior and writing style just confuse me.
    If you remember your line of thinking at that point, would you be able to elaborate on the bolded line, tau?
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  • Huh.  Sorry got super bummed out about the game once LoS and Lau left.  :'(

    Umm... I'll vote: TGN to get him to analyze and also to avoid inactivity lynch.

    I'll also hopefully be available later in the week for actual analysis and stuff too :)
    Do you have thoughts at this time you would like to share?
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  • I'll have to take a second to look back at my own posts because I don't exactly remember the deflecting/directing comment off the top of my head. I though I had said that about another player.

    As far as my town core on him, it was because his strategy at the beginning seemed quite sound and we'll thought out. I'll get back to this when I get home from work.

    May I ask what you mean about the humans only being amongst me? I'm a bit confused on your wording.
    Are you able to branch out on your reasoning on the deflecting/directing comment?
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  • I haven't liked arguments made by NyghtOwl and Gerrick, but that's NAI.
    If you remember your line of thinking at that point, would you be able to elaborate on the bolded line, tau?
    I assume you're curious about the Nyght part, which I do vaguely remember, but for completeness' sake I'll also cover Gerrick first. Went back and checked, I was disagreeing with Gerrick's reasoning on how Michi must have picked out the older more inactive players (in particular, me and Hydra) to be the Humans. I didn't think it was good reasoning because if the roles were curated, it would make more sense to be nice to those players with less time and give them powerless town roles accordingly. Of course, that point was moot because Michi confirmed that roles were fully randomized.

    As for Nyght, I had disagreed with him on a previous day phase regarding his attack on LoS for supposedly understating his Werewolf experience.

    I've reproduced the relevant quote here:
    People consider me a good player AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

    Well, I'll at least try not to disappoint you.

    So here's the thing. We don't THINK you're a good player. We know you are. Which is why this kinda post comes off hella sus at the moment. And I think that's why I've got you on my scumreads at the moment.
    I say this with a great deal of hesitancy but I will also Vote Legacy of Smiles.

    I say hesitant because, while his whole, "shucks I'm not that good" statement earlier rang hella suspicious to me and I feel like his playstyle this game is just different enough from last time to be a mask, I know if he flips town I'm shooting myself in the foot because Doc is gonna be on my ass as he mentioned earlier if one of us is town the other is likely a wolf. That being said there's been a lot of deflection without any real direction coming from him.
    I get a feeling that it's more a big fish in a big pond moved into a much smaller pond and the feelings of inadequacy carry over from the big pond. It seems like a natural reaction to me, not really anything suspicious.

    It takes a certain mindset and situation to embrace the fact that you're actually good at a thing. For me personally for instance, in RL situations my instinctual reaction to any compliment is to profusely deny it. Given LoS' background and situation I am personally unsurprised at his response to being considered a powerful player.

    Thanks for pointing this out. Separately from your question, I had already been questioning my thoughts on NyghtOwl. For a while now I've just been assuming that he's mechanically cleared, when clearly he's not. In the potential case where Nyght is a Human, I'm concerned that (perhaps also after realizing how strongly town-viewed cozmik was) the Humans decided that it wasn't worth the constantly foiled night kills to keep the fake mechanical clear on Nyght. The role reveal as normal villager during the day immediately prior would then garner and carry over trust from the previous inaccurate read. Then again, it would be far simpler for it just to be that Nyght is an ordinary villager, so I'm really not sure. The timings line up too neatly for my liking.
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