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ENE, why are you liking the post that disagrees with your statement that LoS and I think alike?

It is with great hesitance that I post this preliminary reads list, because a lot of interactions are setting off flags but there are only 3 scum so not all the flags are red. 

Town Lean
Legacy (by virtue of dying early last game, I do not think I am as affected by his manifestly devious fake town leader playstyle, anyway the substance is his read list is way less confident than last game which implicitly points towards the same lack of information as town)

Gerrick (Nothing at present jumps out as departing from his modus operandi)

Anubhav Ghosh (I really don't see the alleged poor reasoning, especially with what information we currently possess.

Doc (Win by whatever method suits best even if "lame" gives me the same vibe as previous game)

Null
Laurentus (This is the most tricky one. I cannot, as of present, determine as to whether Lau is playing very strangely to lure incorrect reactions to scumbait or otherwise. As mentioned earlier, I treated his D1 vote as a joke, but that's based on a leveraged position of playing enough times with him. Looking back, his reasoning for Gerrick does prima facie appear overly serious for a joke vote, especially for Anub who has not played with him. In turn, Lau's rigorous push on Anub involved calling his reasoning poor and strawman, which I honestly cannot see. His open admission to this questionable pattern is the one giving me pause, and also a reason why I am not voting for him presently.)
cozmikrae
NyghtOwl
TGN
Eastern New England
taulover
Hydra
BraveSirRobin

Scum Lean
Colberius X (As mentioned by Lau if I recall correctly, nothing memorable as of yet. While this could be due to his first game since returning back, there is a difference in the level of helpfulness in scumhunting. To note this isn't a strong scum read, because I myself have been accused of not helping out much last game due to a decision to adopt a more passive playstyle and ended up being Seer)

Therefore,
Vote: Colberius X
Which is subject to change if there is more than just meta-reading on ENE

Oh, please, Sapph, if my vote on Gerrick was serious, one would think I would have pushed him at some point.

I know that, I am justifying Anub's overreaction

Where did I accuse him of strawmanning, by the way?

And explain where my reasoning doesn't hold up?

Where did I accuse him of strawmanning, by the way?

Here is one, amongst similar posts putting severe doubt on his judgement skills and questioning the alleged "inconsistency" in his reasoning abilities between the previous game and this

I don't get what's happening here, Anu. Your reasoning was razor sharp last game. Now you're grasping at straws and, to be blunt, pushing false narratives.

And explain where my reasoning doesn't hold up?

When Anub asked you "Also I am trying to figure out what actually is making you hesitant to lynch me", you replied "Town doesn't answer this question." For which I have explained in the previous day phase that throwing accusations without actually voting is usually a trigger for you to question the motive as Anub did towards you, but you simply dismissed him. After Gerrick's clarification they are not a defender pair, you then proceeded to tunnel him (which is justified when I look at your POV) only to then switch it to ENE based solely on Legacy's remarks on ENE's playstyle, which you class as a "good case" like what?

So my case on Anu wasn't as unreasonable as you just made it sound, good to know, that.

"Grasping at straws" is not a straw man, it indicates a severe reach that the available evidence doesn't justify, such as, oh I don't know, the whole tunnel based on my vote for Gerrick. He also somehow went from "this person looks the most scummy" to somehow also saying I'm probably town, but then also won't let go of his tunnel on me. A strawman, for reference, is when, instead of debating against a person's actual position, you create a caricature of the person's position and attack that.

And as for the case on ENE, LoS has a lot more meta on ENE, so I'm willing to trust it, especially since it holds water based on my own experience with ENE here and in XKI, at least for the portion about ENE occasionally trying harder as Town.

I have a theory , the problem is its really tough to put it down in the thread . For some reason I believe the seer might have had checked Lau out , and it was a gimmicky move from Lau in which he asked that it was justified to get himself checked first . The concept about him being the best townie if he is one would tamper with our minds and even if seer found him as a scum , we would be hesitant to hit Lau , and by the team we go anywhere , Lau can certainly make us go a total 180. The seer can't do a soft either , so Lau will go scot free if he is scum

I'm confused about what you're trying to achieve here, Sapph. If I was incorrectly tunneling Anu, and you're personally townreading him, I have to wonder why you're not relieved I'm moving off Anu. Also, if I was tunneling before, then what purpose does it serve to get me to focus on Anu again now?

I stand corrected, I used the wrong terminology - I saw straw and just put strawman, and in retrospect it’s a wrong use of language. Also I need to sleep so see ya guys tmr

So my case on Anu wasn't as unreasonable as you just made it sound, good to know, that.

"Grasping at straws" is not a straw man, it indicates a severe reach that the available evidence doesn't justify, such as, oh I don't know, the whole tunnel based on my vote for Gerrick. He also somehow went from "this person looks the most scummy" to somehow also saying I'm probably town, but then also won't let go of his tunnel on me. A strawman, for reference, is when, instead of debating against a person's actual position, you create a caricature of the person's position and attack that.

And as for the case on ENE, LoS has a lot more meta on ENE, so I'm willing to trust it, especially since it holds water based on my own experience with ENE here and in XKI, at least for the portion about ENE occasionally trying harder as Town.

The scummy to town and vice versa stuff , that is quite normal , being scummy on D1 is a method to bring people out in the open , which is why I considered you town for being scummy .

I have a theory , the problem is its really tough to put it down in the thread . For some reason I believe the seer might have had checked Lau out , and it was a gimmicky move from Lau in which he asked that it was justified to get himself checked first . The concept about him being the best townie if he is one would tamper with our minds and even if seer found him as a scum , we would be hesitant to hit Lau , and by the team we go anywhere , Lau can certainly make us go a total 180. The seer can't do a soft either , so Lau will go scot free if he is scum

Lmao, is this a soft for you/Sapph as the Seer and a person who got scanned?

So my case on Anu wasn't as unreasonable as you just made it sound, good to know, that.

"Grasping at straws" is not a straw man, it indicates a severe reach that the available evidence doesn't justify, such as, oh I don't know, the whole tunnel based on my vote for Gerrick. He also somehow went from "this person looks the most scummy" to somehow also saying I'm probably town, but then also won't let go of his tunnel on me. A strawman, for reference, is when, instead of debating against a person's actual position, you create a caricature of the person's position and attack that.

And as for the case on ENE, LoS has a lot more meta on ENE, so I'm willing to trust it, especially since it holds water based on my own experience with ENE here and in XKI, at least for the portion about ENE occasionally trying harder as Town.

The scummy to town and vice versa stuff , that is quite normal , being scummy on D1 is a method to bring people out in the open , which is why I considered you town for being scummy .

So your argument boils down to Too Wolfy To Be A Wolf?

even if seer found him as a scum , we would be hesitant to hit Lau , and by the team we go anywhere , Lau can certainly make us go a total 180. The seer can't do a soft either , so Lau will go scot free if he is scum

That’s quite wild, again the Seer can just put Lau as the only person in scum lean and proceed to make a case. Seer is allowed to soft indirectly via read list.

I'm confused about what you're trying to achieve here, Sapph. If I was incorrectly tunneling Anu, and you're personally townreading him, I have to wonder why you're not relieved I'm moving off Anu. Also, if I was tunneling before, then what purpose does it serve to get me to focus on Anu again now?

First, my entire read list is fluid. Also my issue isn’t with you voting for Anub, it’s how you tunnelled him and then switched it to ENE via Legacy’s sole testimony, and I believe you just explained but I haven’t thoroughly read through it and shan’t comment   

So my case on Anu wasn't as unreasonable as you just made it sound, good to know, that.

"Grasping at straws" is not a straw man, it indicates a severe reach that the available evidence doesn't justify, such as, oh I don't know, the whole tunnel based on my vote for Gerrick. He also somehow went from "this person looks the most scummy" to somehow also saying I'm probably town, but then also won't let go of his tunnel on me. A strawman, for reference, is when, instead of debating against a person's actual position, you create a caricature of the person's position and attack that.

And as for the case on ENE, LoS has a lot more meta on ENE, so I'm willing to trust it, especially since it holds water based on my own experience with ENE here and in XKI, at least for the portion about ENE occasionally trying harder as Town.

The scummy to town and vice versa stuff , that is quite normal , being scummy on D1 is a method to bring people out in the open , which is why I considered you town for being scummy .

So your argument boils down to Too Wolfy To Be A Wolf?

Exclusively for D1 , yes . But in your reads list you took it in a totally opposite way.