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That is to be expected, but I need more than that, lol. How are you currently reading the game?

That is to be expected, but I need more than that, lol. How are you currently reading the game?

Hectic. As for people:

A couple of reads

Town Lean:
- Empty

Null:
- Everyone else

Scum Lean:
- Laurentus
- LoS

I haven't really had the time to read people, I can probably give you more in a few hours.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Are you actually trolling right now?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Are you actually trolling right now?

Borderline trolling, yeah.

Like, did you just throw the two biggest bastards in the scum team and call it a day?

Like, did you just throw the two biggest bastards in the scum team and call it a day?

I have some vague (and probably wrong) reasons, but other than that pretty much.

Okay, pretty sure ENE is Town. Like, the level of not-giving-a-fuck this requires is just not something I associate with a Wolf.

Other theory is that LoS and ENE are scum buds, and he could be simultaneously distancing, while drawing me and his buddy into a team of some sort if LoS ever flips. But I'm not that paranoid yet.

And it's too early to start lolcatting, so I don't think that's what this is, either.

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/wiki/Lolcatting

I actually think ENE is scum.

Legacy of Smiles

With the exception of Nyght, does anybody who scumreads me have a reason for scumreading me besides being worried and/or not knowing how to read me? I feel like I should be null to most people based on the explanations they're giving.

Oh yeah no, if that's all it was, I'll go ahead and switch votes. I think I'm slightly more confident in Anubhav than Legacy, but Laurentus' hesitation had given me pause (hence his null-read in my list).

Switch Vote: Anubhav Ghosh

Wait, you actually SR me?

I assumed it was semi-joking or a reactions test.

Legacy, I'm scum-reading you because you seem to be the most scummy null I have, and I felt I needed a scum read. I'm not convinced you're scum, but I don't have a lot to go on especially since a quarter of the players are inactive and I'm town-reading a lot of players.

Would you be able to explain to me what makes me scummier than Hydra/taulover/ENE please?

Why are you so obsessed with not wanting to be scum-read? I don't understand it, people have explicitly stated that they won't go for you today and you're still trying to be null- or town-read by everyone.

Doc

What is RVS vote?

ISOing you to see if I was willing to actually vote for you instead of just reading you (esp. considering you're currently the biggest wagon, which I don't want to hop aboard unless I'm sure) I noticed you never got an answer to this question; RVS is 'Random Voting Stage', which is another term for a D1 vote made on basically no information whatsoever.

Now that that's been said, in the end I decided that while I'm still sus vis-a-vis Anubhav, I'd rather we had another wagon both for the reasons I outline above (I don't want to hop aboard the majority wagon unless I'm Sure) and for wagonomics reasons, since I'm obligated to vote today (as are Anubhav, BSR, Cozmik, ENE, Hydra, Nyght, and Tau) rather than no-lynching because of Rule 6.
Moreover, I'd prefer secondary wagon not be LoS, since even though I'm nullreading him, I acknowledge that that may well be driven by residual paranoia from last game rather than anything else, and so if we let him get lynched I think we're likely to be depriving town of a strong analytical mind.
Therefore on balance, I'm going to
Vote: ENE,
because thus far he has made exactly three posts, all of which are a single line and which give us no information to work off of. He doesn't have the least posts, but I think he has the least substance in his posts, and so among my nullreads he's the one I'm most comfortable offering up as a wagon.

Perhaps I would be more active if this game wasn't so hard to follow. I wasn't expecting this when signing up and reading this:

I figured I'd run a smaller game for those of you who want something a bit more calm but still fun.

@Eastern New England, Doc has indicated a desire to make you a counterwagon for today. I support this. What say you?

I don't support this.

People are using last game as an excuse to make bad / lazy reads on me and it's concerning, especially when I'm one of or the only scumread of people and the only reasons they give are "I'm scared of him from last game". Huge potential for scum to slip through the net by copying this.

I actually think ENE is scum.

Interesting, how so?

Oh, right, you have meta for each other?

I actually think ENE is scum.

Interesting, how so?

For people who aren't aware (I believe you are but for the sake of others) I have a lot of meta on ENE.

When he's active, he's definitely more of a tryhard town (much more than you'd expect honestly). As scum he's typically very inactive and doesn't solve anywhere near as much (and he also has a habit of trying to act towny only when pressured). The reads post was probably at least semi-serious and I don't see how a towny comes to those conclusions (particularly a person who self admittedly can't read me and usually has me as null / town lean when I'm town and has only ever scumread me before when he was a wolf himself).

I think he's scum trying to get a low-effort townread by posting something brazenly wolfy (particularly because of my habit to TR this sort of behaviour). The reads post seems pretty out of character for him  but especially him as town.

He was already on my radar before this but he was mostly null.

Would go into more detail but my fingers are cold.

Hmm. Can I get some outside perspective here? Am I really that scary that it would inspire someone to tunnel me this much?

I don't know how much inspiration the "Scary Lau" provided , but you and LoS were the only ones talking , in fact later on I wasn't tunnelling either , it was counter statements flying in .