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[Do you want to start lynching by majority this round?]

Do you want to start lynching by majority this round?

Yes

7 (87.5%)

No

1 (12.5%)

Total Members Voted: 8

Voting closed: February 24, 2021, 10:57:44 AM

On consideration, there was a good stretch in here where if Vro was in fact town (and 0 (the last 12ish hours) / 1 (the last ~10ish hours) scum had voted thus far, which remains a distinct possibility), they could have just hammered and forced the mislynch.
The fact that that has not happened does once again incline me to think there might be something to this. Enough of something to leave it to one more vote to hammer.

Vote: Vroendal

If we have a single mislynch here we might still lose even if we lynch scum next Day (aka armored titan). If we’re on the right track with Vro and an alternate wagon appears scum might just powerwolf and get away yet with another mislynch.

Moot gives little information compared to Vro, and isn’t nearly as scummy in my opinion. Moot flipping scum clears Vro and that’s it. Vro flipping scum likely clears Gerrick, Moot, and Michi. It’s not hard to see which one is better here.

I already presented a really strong case on Vro based solely from D1-D3; and I could make one that is ten times larger if I were to do D4-D8. You’re saying you just can’t see scum Vro doing the work he’s doing in thread right now, but if he really cared why would he only start putting effort in analyzing stuff like votes not after 3 or 4 mislynches in a row (most of them also pushed by him), but only when his ass is on the line.

Please, by splitting wagons that’s likely turning this into another 50/50.

Lynching the armoured titan shouldn't make us lose at ELO because we should go into the day on an even number of players unless another defender save happens.

Alright, the Vro thing. If you're absolutely never going to not vote Vro when given the option unless Moot flips scum then the only options today should be Vro and Moot. Out of the two, I stand by Moot being the more likely of the two but I also think it's a very risky lynch (because if Moot/Vro are somehow t/t then lynching Moot today loses us the game).

Honestly, I'm struggling to argue against the Vro lynch any more. I think we've hit the point where until Vro dies, 90% of the discussion will just be about Vro and we will just lose if Vro is alive, even if he's town. I really don't want Vro to get lynched today but we can't win this unless we come to an agreement on him today honestly.

I hate this feeling so much.

Okay, so Vro did violate the rule about not revealing, and his soft claim of defender was too hard.

I can't recall exactly where the post was made, but I did save the quote. My penalty to Vro, which I told him about privately, was that I would add one extra vote on him, meaning he'd need only 5 votes to reach majority.

Why we don't lynch a PR soft here -
1) Of the two PR's left, the town has only noted one claim, in a host of mislynches this increases the possibility that it is real.
2) There are 10 players left, if town mislynches and the wolves get a kill (very likely with a PR dead) there will be a 3v5, if town mislynches again and the wolves get another kill, they just win.
3) The loss of any PR makes the wolves' jobs significantly easier at any stage of the game, if the PR's hadn't blocked three kills, the wolves would only need a mislynch today.


Town can not be throwing down votes willy-nilly, especially since lynch-by-majority is likely to be enabled. If you see a case against someone, argue it and push it instead of voting it right away.

And this means Vro is the lynch here. He was the Town defender, Mikasa Ackermann.

Vote count:

Vroendal - 5 (ExLight, Gerrick, Red Mones, Anubhav, Doc)
Michi - 1 (Vroendal)
Wintermoot - 1 (Legacy of Smiles)

And this means it is immediately night phase.

Michi is being removed from the game for failing to vote 3 times. He was the Beast Titan.

The remaining defender has just lost the ability to self-heal.

Anubhav Ghosh was killed during the night. He was the defender, Levi Ackermann.

Since he is now dead, I can explain the reason for the penalty. He revealed his role publicly.

Ok given what we know of the now deceased Defenders (rip) and who their targets were as they described last day phase (me N1, Red Mones N2, and Legacy of Smiles N3), that means two of the following four are scum:

ExLight
Doc
Wintermoot
NyghtOwl

And I'm leaning towards the latter two.

I’m an idiot sandwich, and I’m sorry for ever tunneling.

I hate how Anubhav died giving us wrong information on the Night 1. I’m assuming they meant Night 1 rather than Night 2 for Mel.

Hey Gerrick, I couldn’t help but notice you had the same picks for N5 and N7 as both defenders. And before they posted their list. Quite the coincidence or?

Vro left us with some pretty good vote timelines, it should help us identify scum based on Michi’s flip.

I’m inclined on voting Moot this phase, but after that fiasco of a performance I don’t even wanna open my mouth much more for the rest of the game.

Anubhav was a sub on D2, which I'm guessing is why he said his N2 target instead with his list. So since on N1 Vroendal was the only active Defender, he defended me, and I didn't die, I think that can pretty clearly clear me.

And yeah, I just chose the players who I thought were most towny on those nights. It seems both Defenders felt the same way.

Clarification: Anu was a sub for N1.

Oh I was going off this:

Also I subbed in at N2  , so that's when i begin it

That's weird as it's wrong since he played D2 anyway.
Also going back it appears that he did sub in during N1 and not at the start of D2. Huh

Okay so first off: ExLight, I've seen worse tunnels on miles less evidence than what you had. Don't beat yourself up because of it.

Defender targets:

Anubhav Ghosh
Night 1 -
Night 3 - Red Mones
Night 7 - Legacy of Smiles

Vroendal
Night 1 - Gerrick
Night 3 - Red Mones
Night 7 - Legacy of Smiles

Like Gerrick said, pretty sure this should mechanically confirm me and Red. As for Gerrick, we can't confirm him unless we know what Anubhav actually selected N1. Was it revealed that he no targeted for certain somewhere? If so, that means Gerrick is confirmed too.

ExLight
Doc
NyghtOwl
Gerrick
Wintermoot

2 wolves, 3 lynches (or 2 lynches if we get the armoured titan first).

ExLight
Doc
NyghtOwl
Gerrick
Wintermoot

2 wolves, 3 lynches (or 2 lynches if we get the armoured titan first).

Ex/Doc
Ex/Nyght
Ex/Gerrick
Ex/Moot
Doc/Nyght
Doc/Gerrick
Doc/Moot
Nyght/Gerrick
Nyght/Moot
Gerrick/Moot