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Do you want to start lynching by majority this round?

Yes
7 (87.5%)
No
1 (12.5%)

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Voting closed: February 24, 2021, 10:57:44 AM


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Vroendal
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  • So what information would be gleaned from lynching Moot. I mean as opposed to lynching you. You're both on the top of my list but I can sort of understand the argument behind ignoring a soft claim like that. After all any one of us could make a similar claim.
    We would gain a greater suspicion of Wisch for voting BSR yesterday despite sussing Moot in her first reads-list and saying she felt better about BSR in her second reads-list, we would gain suspicion of Gerrick for putting Moot as his top town read D1 and voting BSR yesterday (I missed the read-list earlier, but I've been reading back), and Michi for defending Moot as looking like his town self at one point and tunneling BSR, and Doc for avoiding any interaction reads we could make by not voting yesterday. One could also argue he's bussing Moot today, but tbh I'm really liking his posts despite his suspicious voting patterns this game.
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  • Calm down buddy, we didn’t even lynch the person you’re pushing forward yet.

    Can we do Vro? I’ll bake a cake for everyone if we do and he flips scum. And if he flips town I bake a whole cake just for him.
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  • Calm down buddy, we didn’t even lynch the person you’re pushing forward yet.

    Can we do Vro? I’ll bake a cake for everyone if we do and he flips scum. And if he flips town I bake a whole cake just for him.
    How about no. :) Baking is hard, just don't lynch me and avoid the work of baking the cake and the discouragement of being wrong.

    Who would my scum-buddies be if I'm scum anyway?
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  • some shit just happened to me and i think it will affect me for a while sorry if i kinda disappear

    Calm down buddy, we didn’t even lynch the person you’re pushing forward yet.

    Can we do Vro? I’ll bake a cake for everyone if we do and he flips scum. And if he flips town I bake a whole cake just for him.
    How about no. :) Baking is hard, just don't lynch me and avoid the work of baking the cake and the discouragement of being wrong.

    Who would my scum-buddies be if I'm scum anyway?
    i like baking
    it’s literally in the post i voted you
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  • some shit just happened to me and i think it will affect me for a while sorry if i kinda disappear
    i like baking
    it’s literally in the post i voted you
    Noted.
    Oh, nice. You should post some pic of what you bake sometimes.
    Oh, my memory retention is bad. If I was w/w with Anub, it would have been the much better play to let the Seer be coinflipped because I would have known for certain that Sapph was the Seer, and just stayed quiet in the thread and let the coinflip happen. If I was w/w with Doc, it's certainly an odd thing to do for Doc to gun for my death from D2, what would the point of that be? I can't really see that working out long-term because people would be suspicious once TGN was also lynched and flipped town.
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  • I think Ex is of the perspective that I and Moot aren't both wolves, I think the only reason he isn't going after Moot is that he's certain that I'm scum based on his reads, if he removes his certainty of me based on Moot's voting patterns and that we're not w/w, it becomes better to lynch Moot on a basis of gathering info on a prospective more active town member without lynching them, and hopefully lynching a wolf in the process.
    Sure, let's vote off people to get more information until there aren't any townies left. I can think of three people who would love that. [=

    Moot, if you're town why aren't you pushing me now?

    Ex and Doc have both built upon your suspicions from earlier in the game, yet now when it's to scum's benefit to keep me alive as a distraction, you go after Doc. It just seems odd that you seem to have left me by the wayside, you didn't even mention me yesterday.
    Because as I've said repeatedly at this point, I feel Doc is the most suspicious at this point, and that the case against him was and remains the most compelling. Why would I drop what I feel is the strongest case against someone to go after someone else? I made two posts in the last round, one emphasizing my suspicion of Doc and one with final thoughts when it looked like I was going to be killed. Besides an indirect reference to those pushing my killing over such ridiculous reasoning, you didn't factor much into either of those things.

    Speaking of ridiculous reasoning, at this point it looks like you're trying to find reasons to justify a vote for me and hope to find something that sticks after the Sapph one-sentence holy grail defense argument didn't convince enough people yesterday. You and Anubhav are pushing this way too hard and with way too little reasoning. It's too much like a few games back when Lau was pushing hard on Aragonn, it backfired, and Lau was exposed as the wolf. I think you're in the process of overplaying your hands, but please continue. Even if you succeed in killing me off, it'll let others know where they should focus their attention.

    at that point, frankly, i'll have given up on solving the game and just start congratulating scum for being so absurdly fucking effective at hiding under the goddamn radar
    and honest to god i don't much care if that sense of defeatism makes me look like scum or not because honestly it's been 7 days and our one good lynch looks increasingly like it happened entirely by accident, so if i wind up mislynched as a result of this post i'll just say 'well, thanks, now i don't need to worry about fucking up in WW anymore cause boy howdy has this sure been a shitshow for every member of town - bar the Defenders who are 100% MVP, seriously preventing 3 NKs (unless scum is fucking with us, but i'd really rather not believe in that possibility because if that's the case then i really would rather be dead and staring from the sidelines) is an absolute ledge moment - and it'll be a huge relief to just sit on the sidelines and watch the continual shitshow parade instead of actively participating anymore'
    "If you vote Moot, you'll get all this information! And if he's town, oh well, guess we'll have to wave the white flag cause those wolves are just way too cunning."

    Speaking of where people should focus their attention, basically, if I come up town as I know I will, Doc refuses to provide any insights as to how that can be or where the rest of town can go from there. Perhaps there's a reason for that other than defeatism. Perhaps if I'm killed as town people should focus their attention on Vro, Anubhav, and yourself.


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    I need to consider a moment.

    Most recent scum lists (some have been formed from extra Null reads closest to scum leans, and some have BSR removed from them) -

    Red's: Doc, Vro, Gerrick
    Vro's: Wisch, Moot, ?
    Gerrick's: cozmik, Michi, Moot
    Anubhav's: Moot, Ex, Wisch
    Wisch's: cozmik, Vro, Moot
    Michi's: Doc/ExLight/Gerrick/Red Mones/Wintermoot
    Moot's: Doc, Vro, Anubhav
    Nyght's: Vro, Moot, ?
    Doc's: Moot, Gerrick, Wisch/Michi
    Legacy's: Moot, Doc, Gerrick
    Ex's: Vro, Anubhav, Doc
    cozmik's: Gerrick, Ex, ?

    Numbered order of how many players have recently been sussed in a scum list based on above -
    Moot - 8
    Vro - 5
    Doc - 5
    Gerrick - 5
    Ex - 3
    Wisch - 3
    Anubhav - 2
    cozmik - 2
    Michi - 2

    Those who haven't been sussed -
    Red, Nyght, Legacy

    If I have made a mistake or you would like to update this please say something.
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    Numbered order of how many players have recently been sussed in a scum list based on above -
    List of players organized by how many susses are put on them in most recent scum lists -
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  • "If you vote Moot, you'll get all this information! And if he's town, oh well, guess we'll have to wave the white flag cause those wolves are just way too cunning."
    Eh, I was mostly saying 'I think we should lynch you, but if we collectively decide not to and lynch me instead, honestly I'm good with it' because I was in a pretty vile mood this afternoon and didn't care about the game anymore.
    Then I took a nap!
    Now I feel a lot better.
    The moral of the story is not to post in WW when you're in a bad mood, I guess. Which is kind of a weak moral.
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  • In regards to my vote on BSR last day phase, I'd like to point out that I was the second person to vote for BSR, at a time when Wintermoot had 4 votes, after which I went offline till the end of the day phase. How is it my fault that there was a sudden wagon shift to BSR? It's not as if I made a particularly persuasive post in an attempt to convince people it was BSR, since I didn't have any particularly strong suspicions of anyone. Plus, Wintermoot wasn't particularly high on my reads list either, so there's that.

    Right now I'd be ok with a Moot, Anub, or Vro lynch, though I haven't decided which I'd prefer most. Moot should make sense based on the my list from last day phase plus I do think there's information we could gain from it. Anub is definitely a change from last day phase, but I'm really weirded out by the sudden aggressiveness and confidence. It seems super out of place. Vro is looking more and more scummy, probably due to Ex's argument, which I hold in high regard, and that they seem to be acting more offensively by pushing others as a large part of their defense, which strikes me as different from last game.
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    In regards to my vote on BSR last day phase, I'd like to point out that I was the second person to vote for BSR, at a time when Wintermoot had 4 votes, after which I went offline till the end of the day phase. How is it my fault that there was a sudden wagon shift to BSR? It's not as if I made a particularly persuasive post in an attempt to convince people it was BSR, since I didn't have any particularly strong suspicions of anyone. Plus, Wintermoot wasn't particularly high on my reads list either, so there's that.

    Right now I'd be ok with a Moot, Anub, or Vro lynch, though I haven't decided which I'd prefer most. Moot should make sense based on the my list from last day phase plus I do think there's information we could gain from it. Anub is definitely a change from last day phase, but I'm really weirded out by the sudden aggressiveness and confidence. It seems super out of place. Vro is looking more and more scummy, probably due to Ex's argument, which I hold in high regard, and that they seem to be acting more offensively by pushing others as a large part of their defense, which strikes me as different from last game.
    That is true enough. I don't think anyone is blaming you though, my suspicion lies in that your reads appear to have changed from earlier regarding BSR and Moot, and I'm not seeing why or where they changed except to benefit Moot in that situation. Beyond that, you yourself actually feel different to me from last game, the types of posts you're making also have changed from I remember as mostly game analysis in LOTR to reads lists now, which while I like both, it's still a difference that I've noticed. Perhaps if you were to engage players more your reads would become more clearly defined for yourself? You definitely engaged more with players last game. When defenses of my original arguments fail to convince my attackers, I move on to attacks of my own, I don't recall that being quite different from last game. Ex accused me of hyper defensiveness earlier btw, do you want to analyze anything to do with that?
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  • In regards to my vote on BSR last day phase, I'd like to point out that I was the second person to vote for BSR, at a time when Wintermoot had 4 votes, after which I went offline till the end of the day phase. How is it my fault that there was a sudden wagon shift to BSR? It's not as if I made a particularly persuasive post in an attempt to convince people it was BSR, since I didn't have any particularly strong suspicions of anyone. Plus, Wintermoot wasn't particularly high on my reads list either, so there's that.

    Right now I'd be ok with a Moot, Anub, or Vro lynch, though I haven't decided which I'd prefer most. Moot should make sense based on the my list from last day phase plus I do think there's information we could gain from it. Anub is definitely a change from last day phase, but I'm really weirded out by the sudden aggressiveness and confidence. It seems super out of place. Vro is looking more and more scummy, probably due to Ex's argument, which I hold in high regard, and that they seem to be acting more offensively by pushing others as a large part of their defense, which strikes me as different from last game.

    As of confidence and aggressiveness , I would say the little experience i have collected might have made me excited(it has tbh) and I think I can't be just the one who will go unheard and unseen , as for one of my earlier post which HD questioned about , and it went under-the-radar post , whereas I wanted it to be a post to get some fishes out of water(scum out of their lair). I don't want that to happen again .

    U can see my aggressiveness and confidence as a tool to get some attention , and when u get attention , u might get to know who is who .
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  • Stay on TGN, if no active support appears, I'll lynch him to save Sapph and for info and accept that Doc will attack me tomorrow should I survive.
    You...realize that if TGN flips townie, that because I've made crystal clear that I consider the two of you linked at this point that I would accordingly consider you townie?
    So the only reason you'd need to 'accept' that I'd attack you if the TGN lynch goes off is if you're both scum?

    Okay so I think this is the post of Doc's that I don't understand / disagree with the most and I'd like you ask Doc to expand on this please.

    On D2, you made points towards you scumreading both Vro and TGN independently and then, after D2 votings, you said that you believed that Vro and TGN's refusal to vote each other made then a likely pair. This is all fine, I don't necessarily agree with your reasoning but I can at least follow your thought process.

    This post confuses me. How can you be sure that one of Vro/TGN being town means that the other is town? I understand that you think the opposite is true (one being wolf making the other wolf) here but you independently scumread both before you believed their interactions to be wolfy and I don't see anything that you've written that suggests a t/w pairing would be impossible.
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    I need to consider a moment.

    Most recent scum lists (some have been formed from extra Null reads closest to scum leans, and some have BSR removed from them) -

    Red's: Doc, Vro, Gerrick
    Vro's: Wisch, Moot, ?
    Gerrick's: cozmik, Michi, Moot
    Anubhav's: Moot, Ex, Wisch
    Wisch's: cozmik, Vro, Moot
    Michi's: Doc/ExLight/Gerrick/Red Mones/Wintermoot
    Moot's: Doc, Vro, Anubhav
    Nyght's: Vro, Moot, ?
    Doc's: Moot, Gerrick, Wisch/Michi
    Legacy's: Moot, Doc, Gerrick
    Ex's: Vro, Anubhav, Doc
    cozmik's: Gerrick, Ex, ?

    Numbered order of how many players have recently been sussed in a scum list based on above -
    Moot - 8
    Vro - 5
    Doc - 5
    Gerrick - 5
    Ex - 3
    Wisch - 3
    Anubhav - 2
    cozmik - 2
    Michi - 2

    Those who haven't been sussed -
    Red, Nyght, Legacy

    If I have made a mistake or you would like to update this please say something.

    I think there are some important things we can take from this.

    We have 12 players left and 8 of them suss Wintermoot. The players who don't suss moot on that list are himself, ExLight (who has intermittently being scumreading moot), Red Mones and cozmikrae. This makes it seem likely that Moot has 1-2 wolves minimum scumreading him (especially looking at who doesn't have him as scum) regardless of if he himself is a wolf or not. It's really weird that so many people have widely scumread him over the past few days, then, and none of his wagons have been successful. Suggests that if moot is town, wolves are keeping him alive on purpose and if moot is a wolf, wolves are probably distancing from him by SRing him but haven't been actually voting him.

    If Moot is town, the reason why the majority (if not all 3) wolves are sussing him is probably to detract from one of the other major targets (Vro, Gerrick or Doc). It's possibly worth noting that Moot scumreads two of those three people.

    I get the impression that there is almost certainly a wolf at 3 or below on the list (but I don't think we should lynch here today, I would much rather just go from the person who we think is most likely to flip red).

    My question for everyone who wants to answer: is Moot a townsperson who is being pushed as an easy mislynch by the wolves or is he a semi-caught wolf with his buddies trying to distance from him post-flip by scumreading him (but seemingly not pushing)?
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  • The more I read of cozmik, the more town she feels to me honestly.
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