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Do you want to start lynching by majority this round?

Yes

7 (87.5%)

No

1 (12.5%)

Total Members Voted: 8

Voting closed: February 24, 2021, 10:57:44 AM

If I were to rank all the current players from most to least townie, it'd probably look like this:

Red Mones
NyghtOwl
Legacy of Smiles
BraveSirRobin
Anubhav Ghosh
cozmikrae
ExLight
Wischland
Michi
Doc
Vroendal
Wintermoot
Gerrick

I don't really know tbh. When making this list, almost everyone has some kinda townie vibes, so I honestly can't even say this is even how I'd rank them. Also still kinda hung up on Gerrick, though his defenses have been decently strong. Not liking that Michi is still in his scum list though, cuz I'm not really seeing it.

I've been hung up on Gerrick for a few days for no really good reason, just a feeling. A small part of me just wants to vote, but I'm gun shy because of how many townies we've killed at this point. Red you mentioned just using PoE to find scum. How would we go about that? Pick the least townie of our reads and go off that?

I'm not red but PoE is how I find scum usually. It's part of the reason I was working on a town core earlier. If we can narrow down the list of possible suspects by finding townspeople, we will win a lot more easily. It is ten times easier to find an obvious town trying to be obvious compared to looking for scum who are hiding on purpose.

See I kinda feel like we've been doing that, and we've just lynched town with the exception of once.

Yeah, just checked, Doc's been on every single town wagon and was also not on Ruguo's wagon, which is incredibly suspicious. One could argue scum Doc wouldn't be so obvious, though.

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If I were to rank all the current players from most to least townie, it'd probably look like this:

Red Mones
NyghtOwl
Legacy of Smiles
BraveSirRobin
Anubhav Ghosh
cozmikrae
ExLight
Wischland
Michi
Doc
Vroendal
Wintermoot
Gerrick

I don't really know tbh. When making this list, almost everyone has some kinda townie vibes, so I honestly can't even say this is even how I'd rank them. Also still kinda hung up on Gerrick, though his defenses have been decently strong. Not liking that Michi is still in his scum list though, cuz I'm not really seeing it.

I've been hung up on Gerrick for a few days for no really good reason, just a feeling. A small part of me just wants to vote, but I'm gun shy because of how many townies we've killed at this point. Red you mentioned just using PoE to find scum. How would we go about that? Pick the least townie of our reads and go off that?

I'm not red but PoE is how I find scum usually. It's part of the reason I was working on a town core earlier. If we can narrow down the list of possible suspects by finding townspeople, we will win a lot more easily. It is ten times easier to find an obvious town trying to be obvious compared to looking for scum who are hiding on purpose.

See I kinda feel like we've been doing that, and we've just lynched town with the exception of once.

See I don't think so. I get the feeling scum has been pushing targets then getting everyone to lynch them under the guise of "well we're gonna keep coming back to them anyway". That's kinda why I've been avoiding the big wagons and voting for my sus targets instead (except for the one day I voted for TGN). They've been a bit too easy for my taste.

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If I were to rank all the current players from most to least townie, it'd probably look like this:

Red Mones
NyghtOwl
Legacy of Smiles
BraveSirRobin
Anubhav Ghosh
cozmikrae
ExLight
Wischland
Michi
Doc
Vroendal
Wintermoot
Gerrick

I don't really know tbh. When making this list, almost everyone has some kinda townie vibes, so I honestly can't even say this is even how I'd rank them. Also still kinda hung up on Gerrick, though his defenses have been decently strong. Not liking that Michi is still in his scum list though, cuz I'm not really seeing it.

I've been hung up on Gerrick for a few days for no really good reason, just a feeling. A small part of me just wants to vote, but I'm gun shy because of how many townies we've killed at this point. Red you mentioned just using PoE to find scum. How would we go about that? Pick the least townie of our reads and go off that?

I'm not red but PoE is how I find scum usually. It's part of the reason I was working on a town core earlier. If we can narrow down the list of possible suspects by finding townspeople, we will win a lot more easily. It is ten times easier to find an obvious town trying to be obvious compared to looking for scum who are hiding on purpose.

See I kinda feel like we've been doing that, and we've just lynched town with the exception of once.

See I don't think so. I get the feeling scum has been pushing targets then getting everyone to lynch them under the guise of "well we're gonna keep coming back to them anyway". That's kinda why I've been avoiding the big wagons and voting for my sus targets instead (except for the one day I voted for TGN). They've been a bit too easy for my taste.

I feel like we've had, and probably still have, a lot of townspeople who are going to be very easy to blamelessly mislynch.

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If I were to rank all the current players from most to least townie, it'd probably look like this:

Red Mones
NyghtOwl
Legacy of Smiles
BraveSirRobin
Anubhav Ghosh
cozmikrae
ExLight
Wischland
Michi
Doc
Vroendal
Wintermoot
Gerrick

I don't really know tbh. When making this list, almost everyone has some kinda townie vibes, so I honestly can't even say this is even how I'd rank them. Also still kinda hung up on Gerrick, though his defenses have been decently strong. Not liking that Michi is still in his scum list though, cuz I'm not really seeing it.

I've been hung up on Gerrick for a few days for no really good reason, just a feeling. A small part of me just wants to vote, but I'm gun shy because of how many townies we've killed at this point. Red you mentioned just using PoE to find scum. How would we go about that? Pick the least townie of our reads and go off that?

I'm not red but PoE is how I find scum usually. It's part of the reason I was working on a town core earlier. If we can narrow down the list of possible suspects by finding townspeople, we will win a lot more easily. It is ten times easier to find an obvious town trying to be obvious compared to looking for scum who are hiding on purpose.

See I kinda feel like we've been doing that, and we've just lynched town with the exception of once.

See I don't think so. I get the feeling scum has been pushing targets then getting everyone to lynch them under the guise of "well we're gonna keep coming back to them anyway". That's kinda why I've been avoiding the big wagons and voting for my sus targets instead (except for the one day I voted for TGN). They've been a bit too easy for my taste.

I feel like we've had, and probably still have, a lot of townspeople who are going to be very easy to blamelessly mislynch.

Yeah, and I'm worried they're setting up Wintermoot to be the next one. I do have Moot near the bottom of my list, but not because I think he's scum, but because the lack of posting has not given me anything to go off of. The fact that Anubhav is setting up a wagon on him is actually quite interesting.

I may end up just voting Doc today.

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If I were to rank all the current players from most to least townie, it'd probably look like this:

Red Mones
NyghtOwl
Legacy of Smiles
BraveSirRobin
Anubhav Ghosh
cozmikrae
ExLight
Wischland
Michi
Doc
Vroendal
Wintermoot
Gerrick

I don't really know tbh. When making this list, almost everyone has some kinda townie vibes, so I honestly can't even say this is even how I'd rank them. Also still kinda hung up on Gerrick, though his defenses have been decently strong. Not liking that Michi is still in his scum list though, cuz I'm not really seeing it.

I've been hung up on Gerrick for a few days for no really good reason, just a feeling. A small part of me just wants to vote, but I'm gun shy because of how many townies we've killed at this point. Red you mentioned just using PoE to find scum. How would we go about that? Pick the least townie of our reads and go off that?

I'm not red but PoE is how I find scum usually. It's part of the reason I was working on a town core earlier. If we can narrow down the list of possible suspects by finding townspeople, we will win a lot more easily. It is ten times easier to find an obvious town trying to be obvious compared to looking for scum who are hiding on purpose.

See I kinda feel like we've been doing that, and we've just lynched town with the exception of once.

See I don't think so. I get the feeling scum has been pushing targets then getting everyone to lynch them under the guise of "well we're gonna keep coming back to them anyway". That's kinda why I've been avoiding the big wagons and voting for my sus targets instead (except for the one day I voted for TGN). They've been a bit too easy for my taste.

I feel like we've had, and probably still have, a lot of townspeople who are going to be very easy to blamelessly mislynch.

Yeah, and I'm worried they're setting up Wintermoot to be the next one. I do have Moot near the bottom of my list, but not because I think he's scum, but because the lack of posting has not given me anything to go off of. The fact that Anubhav is setting up a wagon on him is actually quite interesting.

I may end up just voting Doc today.

shouldn’t the fact Anubhav is setting a wagon on him make him a more interesting lynch?

Wintermoot has some interactions with Vro too, and I feel like they can’t be scumbuds together.

Doc I’m on the fence on whether or not to scumlean or null him.

What are everyone’s opinion on BSR again? He was a major point of discussion before and I’m not sure if we reached any conclusion regarding him.

Well, shit. Check out this posts from BSR:

I'm not opposed to a Kane or a Moot lynch (see my reasoning from earlier and general sus-edness of Moot, Minish and Kane), but because one might come with some good info last minute, I'll vote for the smaller wagon (Moot) at the present time because I have no idea when EOD is

Vote: Wintermoot

2/3 of those flipped town.

Wintermoot - 3 (Anubhav Ghosh, BraveSirRobin, NyghtOwl)

@BraveSirRobin has dropped to the very bottom of my list now. Anything to say? You're now my vote for today.

You posted before me Ex, check out my above post concerning BSR.

This is all coming from the assumption that Moot is town though, which I honestly can't say.

Gerrick ISO

Votes for Michi Day 1 as a joke.
Discusses the fact that discussion is good for town (Proceeds to post only 28x over an 80page and counting game)
Claims game is on back burner.
Scum reads Michi (after the joke vote!), Sapph and BSR.

Discusses Vro and Michi link. Votes Vro for vote flipflop. Still scumreading Michi. Also lightly mentions Ruguo as scummy (potential town points for that).
Red scumreads Gerrick, Gerrick offers to vote Ruguo, admits not a very effective ploy.
More discussion with Red, votes for Ruguo.
Susses Minish based on Mel's analysis, susses Red as potentially bussing Ruguo, votes BSR.

Analyzes Sapph's poem as a Red Mones check.
Susses Doc based on mention of "Armored Titan," votes Doc.
Retracts opinion, but leaves vote until another target is found. Susses Minish and I.
Unvotes Doc, apologizes.
Votes TGN, asks about Exlight.
Defends TGN...

Votes me.
Defends against Ruguo link, thought voting for Ruguo would be sus.

Posts new reads list.

I still can't quite put my finger on it, but Gerrick is definitely scum lean for me.

ExLight I'm still extremely uncomfortable with. Aggressively accuses me of not understanding the worth of a pinky swear, (I mean, obv...?) that's the only defense I've seen/noticed. Seems like a great way to defend a meta that will one day get flipped and used as a wolf defense. Great "get out of scum reads free" card. Claimed that HD and Minish would back this up, both recognized and refused to defend it.

Doc, Michi, Wintermoot, and Wischland are all null for me. Doc feels town, but also feels skilled. Skilled enough to completely fool me, so I hesitate to call it either way.

Vro, I'm still flip flopping on. (ha!) Slightly town lean right now though.
BSR, I have next to no info on, but town leaning.
Legacy and Anubhav I'm town leaning as well

Red Mones is probably top town for me. As well as Nyght.

Well, shit. Check out this posts from BSR:

I'm not opposed to a Kane or a Moot lynch (see my reasoning from earlier and general sus-edness of Moot, Minish and Kane), but because one might come with some good info last minute, I'll vote for the smaller wagon (Moot) at the present time because I have no idea when EOD is

Vote: Wintermoot

2/3 of those flipped town.

Wintermoot - 3 (Anubhav Ghosh, BraveSirRobin, NyghtOwl)

@BraveSirRobin has dropped to the very bottom of my list now. Anything to say? You're now my vote for today.

This is good. This is how we caught Ruguo out too.

I value the worth of my pinkie promise and I’d never break it.

It’s a green check for me in every game I play as town, and if I ever broke it it would completely lose its value, which is something I wouldn’t want since it’s not only something I’m proud of but something that helps me win games as town because it excludes me from PoE improving my chances. Considering an average person has a 3:1 ratio of games as town (opposed to mafia/indept) it’s not really too hard to understand why its integrity is important for me.

I’ve played with two players that had a full No Lying Policy which they applied to literally every game; there was never reason do doubt their playstyle and the things they said. Similarly I don’t think there is a reason doubt something like occasional pinkie promises that I usually use when people in games I’m either overactive or not engaged to prevent discussion around me that I know will be harmful for Town. You don’t know my meta so this is the easiest and better route for everyone.

I don’t know why HumanDawn and Minish didn’t take it seriously as town, and I’ll legit be an upset brat about that after the game ends. I have over a dozen mafia games and even around half a hundred ultra casual popcorn games where I took it deadass seriously.

I’m literally acting as an Innocent Child role here, and even discussing lynch me is surreal.

*Similarly I don’t think there is a reason doubt something like occasional pinkie promises that I usually use when in games I’m either overactive or not engaged to prevent discussion around me that I know will be harmful for Town.

idk where I was going with that “people” umu

Well, shit. Check out this posts from BSR:

I'm not opposed to a Kane or a Moot lynch (see my reasoning from earlier and general sus-edness of Moot, Minish and Kane), but because one might come with some good info last minute, I'll vote for the smaller wagon (Moot) at the present time because I have no idea when EOD is

Vote: Wintermoot

2/3 of those flipped town.

Wintermoot - 3 (Anubhav Ghosh, BraveSirRobin, NyghtOwl)

@BraveSirRobin has dropped to the very bottom of my list now. Anything to say? You're now my vote for today.

This is good. This is how we caught Ruguo out too.

Well here's some more voting history then:

D1: No vote from BSR
D2: Didn't vote for the Ruguo wagon
D3: Voted for a townie wagon (TGN over Sapph, claimed they knew Sapph was a PR based on his hints. This is a pretty easy situation for scum. Get some town cred for not voting Sapph, but still mislynch a townie no matter who dies)
D4: Votes for TGN again, a townie

This is all circumstantial though, and it assumes Moot is town, but if we assume BSR is scum, then these actions make perfect sense.

If you look at my TGN reasoning, I quite clearly stated that I wanted the information about TGN, so that's a complete misrepresentation. 

Also, I'd hope you'd realize that I'd be a smart enough wolf to not kill those that I was "suspicious" of in the game.  Like that's textbook wolf suicide stuff, and completely irrational. 

And I definitely don't think anyone should be comfortable with assumptions about anything, given that people we thought were associating seem to have very little association now.  But I digress.  If it would help the town for me to die, by all means kill me, but it's clearly an illogical and irrational move at the present time.