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[Do you want to start lynching by majority this round?]

Do you want to start lynching by majority this round?

Yes

7 (87.5%)

No

1 (12.5%)

Total Members Voted: 8

Voting closed: February 24, 2021, 10:57:44 AM

I think some of those are a stretch, but also that is the most solid explanation aside from Nyght’s point about Kane. Though it may make sense that Mel and I were the first two scans seeing as we were both very active. Vro could have been another option, but he was playing defense most of the time while I was playing more offensively. Just out of curiousity, do you think vro could fit into that?

poem for reference

Life’s a theatre we enter into,
And here’s a sneak peak to our grand preview,
Curtains unfold quick be at the centre,
From the sides here comes your fellow actors.
Look at the script! Remember be genuine,
Audience dislikes the boring or brazen,
To tear in merry and grin in dismal,
Stay on stage and don’t reach for the aisle.
No, no, you have it backward,
Welcome to an absurdist stage staged for the absurd.

The way I'm reading Sapphiron's poem is as if he were in the point of view of one of the people he scanned. Unless there's an encrypted message as others seem to be trying to decode, it seems that there's only one player being talked about in the poem.

This makes sense as well

A Mel scan would make a lot of sense if we can only find one name because Sapphiron would only want to leave one name if he scanned Mel anyway.

I don’t understand

So I'm kicking myself that Sapph was still lynched even after I specifically stated that Sapph pretty much ONLY soft claims power roles when he's miffed at people who still suspect he's a "wolf" or something when he clearly isn't. 

Seeing as I know this very well, and seeing how Sapph acted rather identically in the LoTR game, I'm going to be immediately suspicious of those who are voting for him even though they have Wintreath Werewolf experience.  Consequently, my shit list presently is as follows:  Kane, Minish, Moot, and TGN. 

Crossing this with my calls after the first day, which was for reference:
Vro, NyghtOwl, Melehan, Cozmikrae, Ruguo, Gerrick, Wischland, and Minish, who I initially discounted because I liked the analysis, but now I'm definitely more suspect of because being in two townie kill chains is much more suspect, though not being around for EOD is definitely a valid excuse too, so I can't say still.  Coz is also suspicious as hell still, because of the literally 3 MINUTES BEFORE THE DEADLINE unvote. 

Vro though, while still oddly focused on killing me, did get someone to unvote Sapph, which would generally be enough to gain my trust, but I'm still unsure because he could still be a wolf coordinating with Coz, especially because he told the guy to UNVOTE rather than just vote TGN,  and just accepting a 50-50 of killing the Seer to appear less suspect.  TGN voting Sapph out of self preservation was fine at the beginning, but then keeping it after Sapph soft-not-so-soft claimed Seer is also SUPER suspect. 

I'm not sure who we should kill right now, but I have a feeling that some people who are actually villagers might be targeting me, so I would not be opposed to a self lynch of myself to prove to them that they are in fact wrong and get them to bark up a correct tree.  Then again, the analysis in this game generally has been quite sketch, apart from that of Minish, Smiles and HumanDawn, who I believe is the replacement for ENE, and the immediate posting after being brought in really makes me think town, because if I was brought in as a wolf, I'd definitely try to PM with my other wolves first. 

So if we have to kill me for people to do better analysis, I'm all for it, but I'd prefer if not, because analysis this game has been shit and I can't really count on the townies bringing it home rn because I'm not fully confident Minish is town. 

HumanDawn catchinh up is NAI
buh from my meta on him he's decently townie here

I don’t understand

A lot of people were thinking the poem spelt out only one name and were looking for a name to be spelled somehow.  I strongly believe that Sapphiron got two town results so it would be weird for there to be only one name in the poem. However, the poem somehow linking to only one person would make a lot more sense if Mel was the N1 check because Sapphiron doesn't need to bother to leave that for us as a clue as Mel is dead.

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That's a good post BSR, I was hoping town-aligned you would suss Minish there.
Does the TGN votes tell you anything?

However, the poem somehow linking to only one person would make a lot more sense if Mel was the N1 check because Sapphiron doesn't need to bother to leave that for us as a clue as Mel is dead.

Yeah, this is my assumption.

Vro could have been another option, but he was playing defense most of the time while I was playing more offensively. Just out of curiousity, do you think vro could fit into that?

No, Vroendal doesn't really match up in my opinion largely because his first post was quite late since he "as of yet ha[d] not much to say".

Also, I'm feeling much better about BSR after his defense of Sapphiron D3 as well as his post above.

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So I'm kicking myself that Sapph was still lynched even after I specifically stated that Sapph pretty much ONLY soft claims power roles when he's miffed at people who still suspect he's a "wolf" or something when he clearly isn't. 

Seeing as I know this very well, and seeing how Sapph acted rather identically in the LoTR game, I'm going to be immediately suspicious of those who are voting for him even though they have Wintreath Werewolf experience.  Consequently, my shit list presently is as follows:  Kane, Minish, Moot, and TGN. 

Crossing this with my calls after the first day, which was for reference:
Vro, NyghtOwl, Melehan, Cozmikrae, Ruguo, Gerrick, Wischland, and Minish, who I initially discounted because I liked the analysis, but now I'm definitely more suspect of because being in two townie kill chains is much more suspect, though not being around for EOD is definitely a valid excuse too, so I can't say still.  Coz is also suspicious as hell still, because of the literally 3 MINUTES BEFORE THE DEADLINE unvote. 

Vro though, while still oddly focused on killing me, did get someone to unvote Sapph, which would generally be enough to gain my trust, but I'm still unsure because he could still be a wolf coordinating with Coz, especially because he told the guy to UNVOTE rather than just vote TGN,  and just accepting a 50-50 of killing the Seer to appear less suspect.  TGN voting Sapph out of self preservation was fine at the beginning, but then keeping it after Sapph soft-not-so-soft claimed Seer is also SUPER suspect. 

I'm not sure who we should kill right now, but I have a feeling that some people who are actually villagers might be targeting me, so I would not be opposed to a self lynch of myself to prove to them that they are in fact wrong and get them to bark up a correct tree.  Then again, the analysis in this game generally has been quite sketch, apart from that of Minish, Smiles and HumanDawn, who I believe is the replacement for ENE, and the immediate posting after being brought in really makes me think town, because if I was brought in as a wolf, I'd definitely try to PM with my other wolves first. 

So if we have to kill me for people to do better analysis, I'm all for it, but I'd prefer if not, because analysis this game has been shit and I can't really count on the townies bringing it home rn because I'm not fully confident Minish is town.

This is nice BSR. Where were you D1 and 2?

Players:
1. Ruguo
2. Red Mones
3. Vroendal
4. Gerrick
5. Adorable Oracle Hapi
6. Anubhav Ghosh
7. Sapphiron - Cop
8. Wischland
9. Minish
10. Michi
11. Imaginative Kane
12. BraveSirRobin
13. TGN
14. Wintermoot
15. NyghtOwl
16. Melehan
17. Doc
18. Ogun of Valeria / Legacy of Smiles
19. Alexander Valentine / ExLight
20. cozmikrae
21. Eastern New England / HumanDawn

Final Vote Count:

Gerrick - 1 (Red Mones)
Sapphiron - 6 (Minish, Imaginative Kane, TGN, Wintermoot, Legacy of Smiles, Human Dawn)
BraveSirRobin - 2 (Gerrick, NyghtOwl)
TGN - 6 (Vroendal, Sapphiron, Wischland, BraveSirRobin, Doc, ExLight)

Not voting: Anubhav Ghosh, Cozmikrae, Michi

From Day 3 EoD, I'm mostly bothered with Cozmikrae for his unvote putting a soft PR at risk and Anubhav Ghosh ignoring the Sapphiron soft claim. ExLight said he didn't necessarily trust the soft PR claim, but his vote was actually on TGN, not Sapphiron, so I can't really get bothered by that (sorry ExLight for the disappointed comment earlier).

I am okay with throwing TGN a bone for voting Sapphiron for survival and in the case that Sapphiron could be scum to help clear him, and he's new at the game too.

I want to know where @Imaginative Kane, @Wintermoot and @Legacy of Smile were doing. For me and Minish we weren't around EoD and I was asleep when the softclaim happened. Phase updates at 7AM and I didn't make an alarm to wake up at that time.

Out of Cozmikrae and Anubhav Ghosh, I don't know which one bothers me more. They were both off plays. Cozmikrae comes off as more experienced than Anubhav to me, so his play is more suspect.

Vote: Cozmikrae

I am a she btw.

So... actually this is my lack of experience showing here. I understood that Sapph was softing a role, but as I wasn't voting for him, I wasn't concerned with it. But at the end, I got caught up in sudden flash of intuition and last minute scum reads (Vro, Ghosh and ExLight). Suddenly concerned that I was lynching a townie, I jumped off the boat, forgetting to consider that I was putting a potential power role in danger. Hindsight is 20/20, I won't be doing that again. I completely agree, a vanilla townie TGN should have been sacrificed to save the seer. The whole concept of wagonomics and how my vote factors into influencing a lynch I didn't personally vote for is kinda new to me.

Not sure why Vro didn’t tell Anubvh to vote TGN to save Sapph since he clearly noticed what was going on and asking someone to vote their townlean doesn’t really seem like an excuse to let this happen.

When Anubhav voted he made a tie, I told him to unvote which put TGN in the majority once again. He asked if he should vote on another wagon and I said yes. I was then indisposed and was unable to see or comment on cozmik's unvote which forced a coinflip until after the lynch had already been decided by Lau.

This is a good explanation of this. This alliance weirded me out a lot.

Well for myself, I know that a few things I want today is to get BSR as a main wagon contender today, have @Legacy of Smiles tell what they found suspicious about Kane, and have @Wintermoot talk more. With that in mind I shall start the vote on

Vote - BraveSirRobin

What is your reasoning for voting for BSR so often?

New tinfoil theory, TGN is the lynchproof scum and that’s why they were overlyconfident D2. A scumbuddy points out that even though he wouldn’t die from a lynch it would still expose him since he’s the only one like that. He then starts panicking at the idea of getting lynched.

This is an interesting theory. I actually forgot that we had a power wolf like that. Even if exposed though, would we be able to do anything once we discovered their identity?

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That's a good post BSR, I was hoping town-aligned you would suss Minish there.
Does the TGN votes tell you anything?

Uh what?
How does him sussing me prove his alignment at all. Especially considering I'm town so if he were scum it would make sense to sus me since others already have.


Also @BraveSirRobin, if you're town you never let yourself get lynched for info. You fight tooth and nail to show your towniness because you're the only person you can trust 100%.

Vro though, while still oddly focused on killing me, did get someone to unvote Sapph, which would generally be enough to gain my trust, but I'm still unsure because he could still be a wolf coordinating with Coz, especially because he told the guy to UNVOTE rather than just vote TGN,  and just accepting a 50-50 of killing the Seer to appear less suspect.  TGN voting Sapph out of self preservation was fine at the beginning, but then keeping it after Sapph soft-not-so-soft claimed Seer is also SUPER suspect.

Point of order; the telling Anubhav to unvote took it from a tie to TGN 1 vote ahead. It was Cozmik's unvote that put it into a tie, and RNGesus got Sapph killed.
I'm still soft sus on Vro but I've grown dramatically less so after that move; if he'd told him to actively vote TGN...that probably actually wouldn't have changed my mind very much, since if TGN flipped scum I'd have considered that a bus play because of how I've been tunnelling, and if he'd flipped town I'd just be confident Vro was town.
In any case, I'm sold on the possibility of TGN being the Armored Titan. On the one hand, if we went for a lynch on him and found out for sure, that'd be a 'waste' of a lynch, since it wouldn't actually work. On the other hand, sure would be nice to have a Sure Thing right now. Especially since I now know that, in the event Vro and TGN are linked, they'd have to be scumbuds, since Lau noted that the Seer never formed a squad and the defenders/'doctors' as y'all seem to prefer calling them aren't in contact.
So, fuck it, Vote: TGN.
Consistency.

This is an interesting theory. I actually forgot that we had a power wolf like that. Even if exposed though, would we be able to do anything once we discovered their identity?

I mean, not really, but we'd lower the odds of each other individual player being scum from 3/17 to 1/8. I like that just from a 'being less paranoid' perspective - and based on interaction with other players gives us a better sense of who their scumbuds are.
IMO, if he's really the Armored Titan, knowing who one of the scum is for sure beats not knowing even if it's otherwise a 'waste' of a lynch.

Yeah, I have messed up a lot these past few days, hopping in the wrong people and missing the soft claim from Saph.

I'm kinda at a loss at the moment. I don't have any idea where people stand at the moment and I feel a little useless.

I think for this day phase I'm gonna abstain on voting. I just have no clue what I'm so ng and I need to go back and review things from a more critical standpoint as opposed to going with my gut instincts on things like I have been.

Apologies if this upsets anyone.