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[Do you want to start lynching by majority this round?]

Do you want to start lynching by majority this round?

Yes

7 (87.5%)

No

1 (12.5%)

Total Members Voted: 8

Voting closed: February 24, 2021, 10:57:44 AM

If we look at the center stage name of the day one player announcement it would leave us with Kane's name in the exact middle of the list.

I don't have to time right now to make any longer analyses right now, but wouldn't it be far more likely that Sapph didn't see who one of the scum was and instead learned who two townies were, just based on numbers? Someone mentioned this before, but I think it'd make more sense to figure out who the townies Sapph had identified are, then trying to find the scum he probably didn't see.

Also the scum shouldn't have know that Sapph was a power role until he soft-claimed, since they don't have anyone with seer type abilities on their end (right?). They very likely were just going for what they thought was a town mislynch and were probably just working with the usual MO. Perhaps towards the very end after the soft claim they might have switched strategies to avoid getting TGN more votes or add on an extra vote on Sapph or something like that.

Right now I'm thinking TGN might still be a good info lynch. If he turns out to be scum that'll allow us to better analyze the votes from the last day phase.

I'm suspicious of BSR and Kane, basically for the reasons every one else is already citing.

Also kinda sus of Gerrick. On the one hand, his vote shortly after Sapph's on BSR may be an indication that the two were working together as part of a seer army. But Gerrick also didn't do anything to try and save Sapph later when just one vote on TGN would have done the trick. Was he offline at the time? Sorta a weird disparity, so I'm not really sure what's going on there.

The Seer couldn't build an army, and the defenders are not linked.

Just found out what this seer army is about and dang

 

I’m a bit confused as to why people are clearing Nyghts since he’s null-scummy to me, though.

Do we dare taking guesses on who scum might’ve shot that got blocked though? If we’re not fluking there should be stuff in-thread telling us who was more likely to get shot.

Yeah, still interested in hearing why Red Mones top town read Nyghts before.

I think taking guesses is a waste of time, especially considering how big the game is. Whoever they targeted is probably more likely to be a Doctor suspect, which would be easier for them to find and reason knowing who is Town.

Basically this:

Also Nyght was a town read because this is his first game and he seemed to have townie analysis d1 for his first game.

Decent town lean on NyghtOwl btw.

His question about lynching comes from a town mindset to me. It's exactly how I thought when I first starting playing.

Is everyone just sheeping that? I saw him popping in a lot of solid-Town reads.

If that’s the main (or even sole) reason that’s really not enough for me to even take him from a null read.

The Seer couldn't build an army, and the defenders are not linked.

Oh shoot, really? Well, nevermind then.

Just found out what this seer army is about and dang

 

I thought it was just some flavour, is there more to it?

I thought it was just some flavour, is there more to it?

Is a seer army not a thing usually? Almost every game in XKI has one. Basically the seer gets a group chat with the town they see where they can coordinate votes and arguments and whatnot. Makes it easier for town to win.

But enough on that, back to the matter at hand.

Used to be quite common here, but it's actually quite OP. Can't remember the last time we've had one.

I thought it was just some flavour, is there more to it?

Is a seer army not a thing usually? Almost every game in XKI has one. Basically the seer gets a group chat with the town they see where they can coordinate votes and arguments and whatnot. Makes it easier for town to win.

But enough on that, back to the matter at hand.

Oh wow, I've never heard of this being a thing before thanks.

Just found out what this seer army is about and dang

 

I thought it was just some flavour, is there more to it?

their seer adds green checked people into a friendly neighborhood apparently

oh someone answered already

Unfortunately, you either trust me or you don't. I am not going to commit the same sin as I have done last game, allowing over-investment in the game to result in roleclaiming and rule breach. That will have to do to explain for my detached way of playing this round. You guys will find out whether you are right or wrong in lynching me soon enough.

Also, I don't believe it's that implausible for a person to be given the scum role twice in a role. You guys make it sound like Doc wasn't consecutively Wolf before.

This last part seems quite interesting . TGN was a wolf in the last game . Sapph was a seer and so I think TGN might be a wolf , because at the dying moments he won't make a comment like that just in general with no indication. And here is the WIFOM , the obvious other wagon that could save him was TGN's , so to divert he could have had said so , not as a genuine scum read . Maybe all he read were townies.

Same goes for Doc

poem for reference

Life’s a theatre we enter into,
And here’s a sneak peak to our grand preview,
Curtains unfold quick be at the centre,
From the sides here comes your fellow actors.
Look at the script! Remember be genuine,
Audience dislikes the boring or brazen,
To tear in merry and grin in dismal,
Stay on stage and don’t reach for the aisle.
No, no, you have it backward,
Welcome to an absurdist stage staged for the absurd.

The way I'm reading Sapphiron's poem is as if he were in the point of view of one of the people he scanned. Unless there's an encrypted message as others seem to be trying to decode, it seems that there's only one player being talked about in the poem.

If we assume he scanned Melehan Night 1 based on this, and he died on Night 3, that means he had only scanned one other person on Night 2. My guess is that the poem is about this person.

The way it reads to me is that the curtains unfolding are the start of the game, and "quick be at the center" could mean someone jumping out to be in the spotlight. If you go back to the start of the game, you'll notice that this very easily fits Red Mones' first post. "From the sides here comes your fellow actors" could then just mean that the rest of the players entered the game following this. "Look at the script! Remember be genuine": after Red's initial post, he goes for something more serious/helpful. "Audience dislikes the boring or brazen / To tear in merry and grin in dismal" could refer to his behaviour which was neither quiet nor very agressive, while the latter could refer to the amount of emojis he uses. "Stay on stage and don’t reach for the aisle / No, no, you have it backward" could refer to how he was initially very active ("staying on stage" rather than "reaching for the aisle"), but in Day 3 he went very quiet ("reaching for the aisle" rather than "staying on stage").

This would give me the impression that Sapphiron scanned Red Mones and with the whole acting theme going on that he is scum. HOWEVER, with this post (which took place pretty early on Day 3 as if he wanted to leave a clue to clear Red), it appears that he's hinting that he's town. Ergo concordantly vis a vis, I believe that Red Mones is town.

Unless somebody else can scrape something from that poem or perhaps plug a different player into it that works out a little clearer.