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Do you want to start lynching by majority this round?

Yes
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No
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Voting closed: February 24, 2021, 10:57:44 AM


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  • Less than 2 hours to go, I present an original poem written by yours truly, titled Performance

    Life’s a theatre we enter into,
    And here’s a sneak peak to our grand preview,
    Curtains unfold quick be at the centre,
    From the sides here comes your fellow actors.
    Look at the script! Remember be genuine,
    Audience dislikes the boring or brazen,
    To tear in merry and grin in dismal,
    Stay on stage and don’t reach for the aisle.
    No, no, you have it backward,
    Welcome to an absurdist stage staged for the absurd.

    I never liked poetry in English Literature... It always sounded like it was trying to be edgy without saying anything interesting or remotely coherent, but this is good.

    I bolded and underlined stuff that could be helpful or relevant, taking the first letters and reading them from top to bottom and bottom to top, but I can't make sense of LACFLATSNW, or WNSTALFCAL. Maybe it's from a different angle or place? I really hope this is actually important because if you spend the time to make an original poem which means nothing then... :M
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  • IDK... I think TGN is town.

    TGN didn't soft a power role. Sapph did.

    Even if you think TGN is Town, his lynch would have been better than putting Sapph at risk of being lynched.
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  • sorry I just noticed
    this might clear Cozmikrae
    ExLight said you might be scumbuddies
    referring to coz and sapp
    so that puts coz as a town lean for me
    and afterthought I can null ExLight

    It doesn't clear Cozmikrae at all...? What? How is a different player suspecting cozmikrae and Sapphiron as scum partners together, and one of them flipping town, makes the other Town for you?
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  • lol

    these doctors are either amazing or scum is inactive/messing up with us hoping we’ll clear someone we shouldn’t later

    Erh, sorry for pushing Sapph’s wagon as an option last Day, I know it probably looks bad, but I’ll try to make up for it. I’ve been having mood swings and I have a mildly important test this Friday so my activity get a bit janky this Phase or in the next Day one.

    I’m pinkie swearing to be Town, Minish and HumanDawn can probably vouch that I have a policy of never lying with these in a game, so this should act as an Innocent Child and save us from wasting time discussing me.

    We should reread Sapph’s message to find who his targets were, since it could probably tell us his results. If I recall correctly I remember him putting Mel in his Towncore D2, so that was probably his N1 check.

    For N2 there was the poem he wrote, his TGN vote, and him saying something about people being scum twice in a row not being impossible.

    For the vote wagons: not a fan of Cozmikrae making a complete 180° in the last seconds allowing the tie to happen (which is the complete opposite of what people should want maybe) and TGN not biting the bullet. Not sure why Vro didn’t tell Anubvh to vote TGN to save Sapph since he clearly noticed what was going on and asking someone to vote their townlean doesn’t really seem like an excuse to let this happen.

    I hope your mood swings get better! Good luck for your exam!!

    I actually don't remember which game you used the pinky swear in. I think it's pointless but for the sake of humoring it, was it Spongebob Mafia that you used it? Superman and Sonic had you in scum games.

    So you're saying his TGN vote is from a N2 scum check? I think he would have been more forceful throughout the day to do that. I agree that it's likely Mel was his N1 check. Shame they got killed N2.

    Not a fan of what Cozmikrae did there either and I already explained the logistic issue with that a few posts before here. Yeah, Vro could have told Anubvh to vote TGN, and Anubvh could have voted TGN without Vro telling him.
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  • Y'all let the cop, clearly softing a power role, get lynched...
    This is why not being around for eod sucks. I would have moved off that lynch but that's just taking my word for it now which means nothing.

    @Laurentus sorry to keep bothering you about this but could you put the votes up for eod? It's just impossible for me the read the chart on mobile.


    People who voted for Sapph after the softing are sus. Especially if they played LotR.

    Also, like that vote should have been Sapph/BSR imo.


    Also ya Ex does use pinky swears to not lie but you know I'm absolutely not treating that like innocent child. Haha. That's basically just like using meta. Either way I'm not worried about you today anyways.

    I have updated the EoD3 vote count to give results a human can see more easily. Sorry, I'm really not trying to be lazy, I just have very little time in the mornings before I end the phases, as it's always just before work.
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  • But him voting TGN would’ve increased the gap and most likely prevented the Lynch from happening, right?
    Yes, it would have. From my point of view at the time Sapph's lynch was being prevented. I was voting TGN who was in the majority, I told Anubhav to vote on another wagon. I don't blame Anubhav for not voting past that point, but I admit I probably could have pushed him harder. I should mention that I was also town-reading TGN. I did not forsee cozmik's flip, which isn't really an excuse, but I could ask you why you didn't prevent the lynch either.
    Me? I though Sapph was scum bluffing. In any case I already had my vote on TGN, there wasn’t much for me to do.

    Lame.

    Even if he is scum bluffing, we would have known he was lying later down the game if the three confirmed power roles die, or suspect him more based on whether he stayed alive or not. What made you think he was scum bluffing specifically here? I expect a lot more from you on something like this...
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  • Well for myself, I know that a few things I want today is to get BSR as a main wagon contender today, have @Legacy of Smiles tell what they found suspicious about Kane, and have @Wintermoot talk more. With that in mind I shall start the vote on

    Vote - BraveSirRobin

    Why?
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  • I’m a bit confused as to why people are clearing Nyghts since he’s null-scummy to me, though.

    Do we dare taking guesses on who scum might’ve shot that got blocked though? If we’re not fluking there should be stuff in-thread telling us who was more likely to get shot.

    Yeah, still interested in hearing why Red Mones top town read Nyghts before.

    I think taking guesses is a waste of time, especially considering how big the game is. Whoever they targeted is probably more likely to be a Doctor suspect, which would be easier for them to find and reason knowing who is Town.
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  • Players:
    1. Ruguo
    2. Red Mones
    3. Vroendal
    4. Gerrick
    5. Adorable Oracle Hapi
    6. Anubhav Ghosh
    7. Sapphiron - Cop
    8. Wischland
    9. Minish
    10. Michi
    11. Imaginative Kane
    12. BraveSirRobin
    13. TGN
    14. Wintermoot
    15. NyghtOwl
    16. Melehan
    17. Doc
    18. Ogun of Valeria / Legacy of Smiles
    19. Alexander Valentine / ExLight
    20. cozmikrae
    21. Eastern New England / HumanDawn


    Final Vote Count:

    Gerrick - 1 (Red Mones)
    Sapphiron - 6 (Minish, Imaginative Kane, TGN, Wintermoot, Legacy of Smiles, Human Dawn)
    BraveSirRobin - 2 (Gerrick, NyghtOwl)

    TGN - 6 (Vroendal, Sapphiron, Wischland, BraveSirRobin, Doc, ExLight)

    Not voting: Anubhav Ghosh, Cozmikrae, Michi

    From Day 3 EoD, I'm mostly bothered with Cozmikrae for his unvote putting a soft PR at risk and Anubhav Ghosh ignoring the Sapphiron soft claim. ExLight said he didn't necessarily trust the soft PR claim, but his vote was actually on TGN, not Sapphiron, so I can't really get bothered by that (sorry ExLight for the disappointed comment earlier).

    I am okay with throwing TGN a bone for voting Sapphiron for survival and in the case that Sapphiron could be scum to help clear him, and he's new at the game too.

    I want to know where @Imaginative Kane, @Wintermoot and @Legacy of Smile were doing. For me and Minish we weren't around EoD and I was asleep when the softclaim happened. Phase updates at 7AM and I didn't make an alarm to wake up at that time.

    Out of Cozmikrae and Anubhav Ghosh, I don't know which one bothers me more. They were both off plays. Cozmikrae comes off as more experienced than Anubhav to me, so his play is more suspect.

    Vote: Cozmikrae
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  • I can’t believe you’re acting like I’d ever lie with a pinkie promise :aaaAAA:

    You’re good at interpreting poetry, what do you think of the poem he left us? I tried checking for breadcrumbing through hidden code but didn’t really find anything so if it softed results it’s likely in its meaning.

    Why wouldn't you when you know you could get away with it? Haha.


    I'll have to look at the poem again. I tried to see if he was softing cop in it when I woke up and saw the flip but didn't see anything in it. Need to see if maybe he was softing results.


    Also Nyght was a town read because this is his first game and he seemed to have townie analysis d1 for his first game.
    If I were to break a pinkie promise it wouldn’t be in a small game like this with no stakes lol
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  • But him voting TGN would’ve increased the gap and most likely prevented the Lynch from happening, right?
    Yes, it would have. From my point of view at the time Sapph's lynch was being prevented. I was voting TGN who was in the majority, I told Anubhav to vote on another wagon. I don't blame Anubhav for not voting past that point, but I admit I probably could have pushed him harder. I should mention that I was also town-reading TGN. I did not forsee cozmik's flip, which isn't really an excuse, but I could ask you why you didn't prevent the lynch either.
    Me? I though Sapph was scum bluffing. In any case I already had my vote on TGN, there wasn’t much for me to do.

    Lame.

    Even if he is scum bluffing, we would have known he was lying later down the game if the three confirmed power roles die, or suspect him more based on whether he stayed alive or not. What made you think he was scum bluffing specifically here? I expect a lot more from you on something like this...
    It’s a bit trickier than this because claiming is not allowed, so there’s always that WIFOM on whether or not it really is a soft. In any case waiting for 3 power roles to die is kinda brutal and the odds of hitting -Lo with at least one of them alive isn’t small at all. Not to mention he could always kill all people that realized the soft until then, and leave only inexperienced players that didn’t realize it around to get away with it even if all Power Roles flipped.

    I expected him to bluff because I’m aware he’s an experienced player and he’d know this is the best play for scum. His actions of laying low were ambiguous at best, I’d’ve been way more likely to think it was legit if he had put more effort scumhunting umu
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  • Players:
    1. Ruguo
    2. Red Mones
    3. Vroendal
    4. Gerrick
    5. Adorable Oracle Hapi
    6. Anubhav Ghosh
    7. Sapphiron - Cop
    8. Wischland
    9. Minish
    10. Michi
    11. Imaginative Kane
    12. BraveSirRobin
    13. TGN
    14. Wintermoot
    15. NyghtOwl
    16. Melehan
    17. Doc
    18. Ogun of Valeria / Legacy of Smiles
    19. Alexander Valentine / ExLight
    20. cozmikrae
    21. Eastern New England / HumanDawn


    Final Vote Count:

    Gerrick - 1 (Red Mones)
    Sapphiron - 6 (Minish, Imaginative Kane, TGN, Wintermoot, Legacy of Smiles, Human Dawn)
    BraveSirRobin - 2 (Gerrick, NyghtOwl)

    TGN - 6 (Vroendal, Sapphiron, Wischland, BraveSirRobin, Doc, ExLight)

    Not voting: Anubhav Ghosh, Cozmikrae, Michi

    From Day 3 EoD, I'm mostly bothered with Cozmikrae for his unvote putting a soft PR at risk and Anubhav Ghosh ignoring the Sapphiron soft claim. ExLight said he didn't necessarily trust the soft PR claim, but his vote was actually on TGN, not Sapphiron, so I can't really get bothered by that (sorry ExLight for the disappointed comment earlier).

    I am okay with throwing TGN a bone for voting Sapphiron for survival and in the case that Sapphiron could be scum to help clear him, and he's new at the game too.

    I want to know where @Imaginative Kane, @Wintermoot and @Legacy of Smile were doing. For me and Minish we weren't around EoD and I was asleep when the softclaim happened. Phase updates at 7AM and I didn't make an alarm to wake up at that time.

    Out of Cozmikrae and Anubhav Ghosh, I don't know which one bothers me more. They were both off plays. Cozmikrae comes off as more experienced than Anubhav to me, so his play is more suspect.

    Vote: Cozmikrae
    Just got free and I'll make that case on Kane shortly. EoD is 5am for me and I go to bed 4-5 hours before that so I wasn't online at anywhere near that time.

    I am bothered by Sapphiron getting lynched after his very strong hinting, wolves almost certainly noticed that he was a PR and pushed that if they thought they could get away with it. Particularly, I want to look at people who voted Sapphiron/moved their votes elsewhere to put him in the lead today and I think the fact that a lot of them didn't actually acknowledge Sapphiron's soft while they did so (looking at Anubhav in particular, who voted Sapphiron without mentioning Sapphiron in their vote explanation and talking about TGN instead).

    Have we gotten anywhere with finding any hints that Sapphiron left in regards to who they checked? I'm assuming they didn't check any wolves as I don't remember them pushing anybody in particular super hard.
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  • lol

    these doctors are either amazing or scum is inactive/messing up with us hoping we’ll clear someone we shouldn’t later

    Erh, sorry for pushing Sapph’s wagon as an option last Day, I know it probably looks bad, but I’ll try to make up for it. I’ve been having mood swings and I have a mildly important test this Friday so my activity get a bit janky this Phase or in the next Day one.

    I’m pinkie swearing to be Town, Minish and HumanDawn can probably vouch that I have a policy of never lying with these in a game, so this should act as an Innocent Child and save us from wasting time discussing me.

    We should reread Sapph’s message to find who his targets were, since it could probably tell us his results. If I recall correctly I remember him putting Mel in his Towncore D2, so that was probably his N1 check.

    For N2 there was the poem he wrote, his TGN vote, and him saying something about people being scum twice in a row not being impossible.

    For the vote wagons: not a fan of Cozmikrae making a complete 180° in the last seconds allowing the tie to happen (which is the complete opposite of what people should want maybe) and TGN not biting the bullet. Not sure why Vro didn’t tell Anubvh to vote TGN to save Sapph since he clearly noticed what was going on and asking someone to vote their townlean doesn’t really seem like an excuse to let this happen.

    I hope your mood swings get better! Good luck for your exam!!

    I actually don't remember which game you used the pinky swear in. I think it's pointless but for the sake of humoring it, was it Spongebob Mafia that you used it? Superman and Sonic had you in scum games.

    So you're saying his TGN vote is from a N2 scum check? I think he would have been more forceful throughout the day to do that. I agree that it's likely Mel was his N1 check. Shame they got killed N2.

    Not a fan of what Cozmikrae did there either and I already explained the logistic issue with that a few posts before here. Yeah, Vro could have told Anubvh to vote TGN, and Anubvh could have voted TGN without Vro telling him.
    Thanks!! I hope it gets better soon too umu

    I actually don’t remember which game on Bulba I used it, lol. But I know I used it to clear myself in a couple there, I’ll see if I can find them. I don’t think it was Spongebob though.

    I’m saying it’s a possibility. But we should figure out if he had a Green or Red check on someone first. The only message that really stuck out to me was him saying people could roll scum twice in a row, but that was referring to TGN (although the name he used to illustrate his point was Doc). So that and his single vote on TGN makes me think on the possibility of TGN, who was a key figure D2 and thus likely to be copped, being scum.

    If he had a red check on someone else I feel like he’d’ve done something to give a really strong hint like voting the red check and unvoting right after. And I don’t remember seeing him putting anyone in town cores like he did with his (likely) N1 check. So I do feel like it might’ve been him pointing directions at TGN. Whether or not it was purely to save himself I don’t know.
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  • Life’s a theatre we enter into,
    And here’s a sneak peak to our grand preview,
    Curtains unfold quick be at the centre,
    From the sides here comes your fellow actors.
    Look at the script! Remember be genuine,
    Audience dislikes the boring or brazen,
    To tear in merry and grin in dismal,
    Stay on stage and don’t reach for the aisle.
    No, no, you have it backward,
    Welcome to an absurdist stage staged for the absurd.


    Haven't gotten anything from this poem yet in terms of an obvious answer. But there are a few interesting lines. "No, no, you have it backward" seems to indicate that the message may be written backwards in the poem. There's also the idea that it could mean the message is the opposite but that's a bit tricky to trust.

    "Be at the center" and "Stay on the stage don't reach for the aisle" seems it could indicate the message would be in the middle of the poem and not on the sides. The one thing that throws me off for that is the "From the sides here comes your fellow actors". But two lines seem to hint staying in the center.

    The line "Look at the script! Remember be genuine" sounds like it would be pretty important but I've got nothing from it.
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  • Well, you asked lol.

    Why I scumread Kane:

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    This is also something I am wondering about after reading through posts on the topic.

    For now I will use my No Lynch vote but that will change later on since I am sure some other players will eventually look more suspicious.
    Melehan has been triggering some of my suspicion because from what I remember when reading and playing previous Werewolf games, the players who were committed to a role in all of their posts were usually evil or just hiding something.  Hapi in the last game proved an exception to the evil players posting in character but I think the Batman game had a few cases like that (and then there are the "generic Batman quotes").

    There's nothing specific that pings me in this post but there's not a whole lot accomplished either. Mostly saying they sus Mekehan and then arguing against their sus on Melehan and then saying they want to NL. Seems more likely a wolf makes this post trying to fit in and not post many opinions of their own.

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    An updated vote track.  As of Vroendal's count it was like this:

    Hapi 2 (Red, Melehan)
    Red 2 (Hapi, cozmikrae)
    Michi 2 (Gerrick, Vroendal)
    Wintermoot 1 (NyghtOwl)
    Doc 1 (Ruguo)
    Vroendal 1 (Sapphiron)
    Sapphiron 1 (TGN)

    Ruguo then voted for Michi to apply some pressure.
    Not sure if TGN's post after that was voting for Michi since they had their vote on Sapphiron and then said Unvote: Michi.
    NyghtOwl then changed their vote to Hapi thinking Wintermoot was just like voting a third party candidate and citing the potential for chaos.
    Then TGN changed their vote to a joke vote on Laurentus. (for editing a post)
    Then I made my No Lynch vote (pending more information).
    Hapi then changed their vote to cozmikrae. (jumping on a joke wagon but not convincing Hapi why)

    Hapi 3 (Red, Melehan, NyghtOwl)
    Red 1 (cozmikrae)
    Michi 3 (Gerrick, Vroendal, Ruguo)
    Vroendal 1 (Sapphiron)
    Laurentus 1 (TGN)
    cozmikrae 1 (Hapi)
    No Lynch 1 (Kane)

    I will check this game later but now I am going to focus on school stuff.
    While this is very useful, it is also actually the post that first pinged me on Kane when I was reading. Seems like IIoA (information instead of analysis) where a beginner wolf tries to look universally helpful by spending a lot of time posting objective facts like the posts below. It's not wolfy that Kane is posting info posts like these, and they are very helpful, but it is wolfy that a good proportion of Kane's posts are completely objective info with no strong opinions of his own.


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    While I would rather vote No Lynch, I am not actually planning to.  I am just using it as a placeholder which I thought I made clear with that wording.  Also what information could I hand out without pinning a target on me?  It is only D1.

    This is a really weird thing for a townsperson to think / say and emphasises the blending in mindset I saw before. I don't see why a townsperson would want to blend in like this.

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    The main player I am not at all suspicious of so far is NyghtOwl.  I like their original voting justification so for now I will go off of that in case I am not active before the day ends.  BSR seems a bit too quiet so far but they haven't been online for a while so that is somewhat excusable.  I really don't have any plausible suspicions so far.  Just weak suspicions of Robin, Melehan, and Minish.  I just have a gut feeling with Minish for some reason.  Neither Hapi nor Michi seem scummy to me.  Everyone else is generally on the same level as Hapi and Michi, neither suspicious nor not suspicious.

    I will vote BraveSirRobin for now since they fit the bill and I wonder if they are doing what I often do: view the forums without logging in.

    The argument on BSR is very weak here... so why are they still tunneling this person on D4? Kane even makes an excuse for BSR in this post. I also want to draw attention to the NyghtOwl read as not being anything original because Nyght was probably the most consensus town read at this point in the thread. I also don't think that this person is partnered with Nyght (although to be honest Nyght is probably just town anyway so this shouldn't matter much).


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    I think I now understand why I always seem so suspicious to yall when I play. (Even if I don't seem that suspicious yet for once)  My meta seems to be suspicious overall.  I am usually somewhat quiet whether I am town or scum.  Whether or not there are neutral roles, I am definitely a tightwad when it comes to giving information which is probably partially out of paranoia that I will immediately be targeted by enemies or breaking the rules if I open up.  Plus I tend to get rather defensive (maybe not as much as Aragonn though).

    A notable part of my meta that is not too hard to confirm by reading through past games is that I tend to avoid wagons unless I agree with them (regardless of which side I am on) or I feel the need to join them for self preservation.  Also I tend to vote off of hunches when I make my votes unless the reasons for a vote seem sound and I agree with them enough to vote the same.  Seeing how big talking seems to be, I understand why I tend to be suspicious.  When asked, I will say I am innocent but can not confirm (who wouldn't in this kind of game).

    For talk about the meta of others.  I have read a few of the previous games and Gerrick seems to be the meta I feel I have the best understanding of.  That meta seems to be always relatively quiet and contributing to discussions and then either someone realizing they are scum or someone taking them out at night :)) (Though this is mostly from looking at Star Wars, Batman, and Game of Thrones).
    I may have some idea of Red's meta but he has played quite a few games I have not been in so I am not sure.  The Game of Thrones meta I remember was being quiet except to vote and sometimes discussing with their votes being primarily joining wagons (mostly at the Wall when they were scum).  I think some good points were made earlier about Red on both sides so I won't vote them.  I am a little less suspicious of Minish now but still have a lingering gut suspicion (getting vibes from that Portal Werewolf when we were both scum).  Otherwise, there isn't really any new suspicions to note.  Though I had forgotten about Wintermoot being quiet earlier for some reason.

    For now I will keep my vote in place.

    The defence part of this post pinged me at first for being wolfy although I'm not really sure how I feel about it now. I don't think saying that they do wolfy things as town really defends a lot of the things I've noticed so far more.


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    Oh hi Kane. Why don't I remember a single one of your posts from D1?

    Answer: I'm clearly inept at remember who all is playing. Carry on.
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    Don't worry about it Ruguo.  There have been quite a few posts so far.  Not as much as other games but there was definitely a lot in the posts.

    This interaction feels pretty forced. Could see these two as w/w.



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    [Well I won't be making as big of a post as I was planning to since I need to wake up earlier this morning.  Because of that, this will not be as elaborate as I would hope.

    My opposition to both the Michi and Hapi wagons yesterday was because I did not feel either were sus in any way yet.  I still do not see them as sus (makes sense for the latter since they were offed and revealed) but there have been some very good points made with the analyses of the wagons and their participants.  I am nearing a point where Michi could a target of my vote.

    Some of the players I am finding difficult to analyze include: Melehan, Vroendal, Minish, ENE, and Wischland.  Vroendal I have a fair bit of suspicion towards but they appear to be defending themselves well.  Melehan keeps flip flopping in my view between town and scum leaning with the different analyses and RP/flavor posts.  Minish has been quite helpful towards the town but at the same time, I have a nagging suspicion that they are playing a part as scum.  Wischland and Alexander Valentine and ENE have not posted enough for me to get a read of them based off what I have read so far.  I have a suspicion that somewhere in the group of BraveSirRobin, Wintermoot, Red, Vroendal, Minish, Ogun and others I am not thinking of right now; there is at least one Titan.  This is very much an unproved gut or vibe suspicion though.  I also wonder with Melehan and Vroendal how much of their post liking with the arguments for and against their suspiciousness is indicative of players being onto something with regards to their leanings.

    I would say TGN is null with a slight town lean so far.  While they keep making posts and votes that are explained away as jokes, something about them makes me think they are not that suspicious so far.
    Nyght, Anubhav, and cozmikrae are now in a sort of town lock position for the moment (temporarily with Anubhav since they haven't posted much but they are newly substituted and those posts have me convinced).  While I am not convinced of Red's suspiciousness or non suspicion, their defense combined with what I have seen of cozmik are making me think they are a player adjusting to this town setting but fitting in and trying to contribute.

    As a summary of these reads.
    Town Lock
    NyghtOwl (Are you playing us though?)
    cozmikrae ()
    Anubhav Ghosh (this probably won't last long, I am being generous since they are more of a lean but that remains to be seen)

    Town Lean
    Wintermoot (somewhat suspicious but you seem to be triggering my gut a little less than the others)
    TGN (reminds me of some of my own early games, more chaotic and less suspicious and not triggering my alarms)
    Michi (they seem to just be defending themselves and their resigned defense reminds me of a lot of mislynches)
    Gerrick (so far they have yet to set off an alarm)

    Null or not much of a read.
    Wischland (haven't seen much from their posts)
    Eastern New England (not as inactive but haven't seen much from their posts)
    Ogun of Valeria (same as Melehan)
    Melehan (Just don't know)
    Ruguo (same as the previous two)
    Alexander Valentine (no activity)
    Sapphiron (not sure even with I have read and remember)
    Red Mones (not as conflicting as the others but somewhat town leading and conflicting)

    Scum Lean
    BraveSirRobin (the defense did help but I need to reread it some more, really more of a null until that time)

    Conflicting Reads (definitely need more analysis since I am seeing signs of both sides or thinking I am seeing them)
    Minish (not suspicious in their posts but for some reason they are reminding me of when we were both wolves and seem to be holding something back (though that is normally not suspicious to me))
    Doc (I seem to be seeing a mixture of town and scum reads from my mind and others and I am being reminded of The Wall when they were scum)
    Vroendal (Appears to simultaneously be scum leaning and town leaning)]

    Probably Kane's best post and most of the reads seem fair. I want to point out two that stand out however. The NyghtOwl read has some unnecessary shade for... no reason? Weird, since Kane said they're not suspicious of Nyght at all earlier. The read on BSR is way too weak to justify how strongly Kane is tunneling them.


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    This day sure flew by fast and it was not fun (not the phase (though that was a lot to read through and I definitely have not studied it much)).  He is/was a similar case to a few of the people who I marked as null or not much to go off of in that there is a bit to go off of, but I have not been able to get a read off of their posts yet.

    I could be willing to go along with the Ruguo and Vroendal votes but I am not that suspicious of either one at the moment.  I will just vote for the one who I am most suspicious of right now.

    Vote BSR

    Just the right amount of distancing from Ruguo that I would expect from one of their partners. You can tell he doesn't want to vote for Ruguo here... "go along". If Kane is a wolf, Vro is probably town because I think Kane probably lists one wolf and one town in his list of two.

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    I was not actually intending to No Lynch and I did not officially use it since I changed my vote to BSR.  My reason for the early defensive posts is just to start preparing a defense early since I usually seem to be suspicious which often results in some wagon danger.

    That is true that I only voted for BSR, my reasoning for that was because I did not see agree with the major wagons that were up on those days (I found out how wrong that belief was last day phase but was correct on the first day phase).  The only reason I ever join those wagons is because I fully agree or mostly agree and find them suspicious.  Otherwise, I vote for someone else who I find suspicious despite it not making a difference.  That is just how I vote normally, sorry if that makes you suspicious of me.  The reason I have not pressured them in this day phase is because I have not been online for most of this day phase.  Yesterday, I simply did not open up this website or log in because I was starting on some assignments and watching some shows.  The one post I did make (https://wintreath.com/forums/index.php?topic=7019.msg156651#msg156651), I think explains well enough why I did not vote at that point in time.

    Bold is the wolfiest thing I have read all game. If you're town, you shouldn't be this paranoid about getting lynched as soon as D1 starts. I don't like the explanation for the BSR vote, it only amounts to BSR being suspicious for unknown reasons and not wanting to vote Michi / Hapi (this feels like wolf reasoning, a wolf not wanting to vote either Michi or Hapi because when one dies and is revealed to be town Kane wouldn't want to be suspected for it). Certainly don't think this justifies the BSR tunnel.


    Every other post I don't really have anything to comment on.


    Kane is in the solid scumread category right now. I don't think Kane and BSR are w/w though, so if one of those flips wolf I would townread the other.

    Oh and since I'm under the impression Kane is a newer player, I'll end this with a little advice for them. I would focus on sharing more opinions if you can. I can't tell if you're not because you're trying to avoid conflict or, if town, you're scared of being wrong but the best way to try to ease suspicions on you now isn't to try to justify yourself by telling us how you do this as town too but to do things that are towny like sharing more opinions.

    A question for Kane: what do you think of BSR now? Has your case against them got stronger since you first voted them? If not, why are you continuing to vote them if your reasoning is so weak? If you don't feel your reasoning is weak, please expand on it in more detail.
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