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[Do you want to start lynching by majority this round?]

Do you want to start lynching by majority this round?

Yes

7 (87.5%)

No

1 (12.5%)

Total Members Voted: 8

Voting closed: February 24, 2021, 10:57:44 AM

Gerrick (1) - Red Mones
BraveSirRobin (3) - Sapphiron, Gerrick, Vroendal
Sapphiron (1) - Minish
TGN (3) - cozmikrae, Doc, ExLight
Imaginative Kane (1) - Legacy of Smiles

Why are you asking only Coz for the interactions?

Thank you ExLight!!!!

Seeing the vote count like that, makes me want to paint it to become more beautiful, like this:

VOTE: Sapphiron

In one of Coz's posts a few pages back, they made an analysis of Ruguo's ISO, and in one of the lines, they said Ruguo linked themselves to TGN. It was the most eye-raising statement of the ISO, which I felt important enough to bother asking which post it is.

I'm actually leaning to scumlean with Kane, but I feel like he's not an optimal wagon today?
Would also be nice if we managed to reduce it to 3 close wagons again by EoD, and I feel like TGN/Sapph are pretty great if anyone wanna join these wink wink

If you wink nicely I might just listen.
Vote: Sapphiron

love yall lmao

I'm not scum. I've done my best to both jump on things I find odd as well as steer newer players in the right direction. I'm admitedly playing a bit differently this game- I want the newer players such as yourself to get the experience of hunting- so I'm doing a lot more prodding around than usual to stir up the dust.

I'd also ask you to consider: Would scum spend so much time trying to get TGN to prove his innocence? If I were scum, I could easily have left it with his wagon clearly in the lead and gone home happy- but I didn't, because I'm not scum, and he deserves better than that.

So I've been reading through all of Ruguo's posts again to try and get a better idea of things and this really jumped out at me in light of recent discussion, so I wanted to note my thoughts before they faded into brain mush. I was kinda hesitant in regards to Ruguo training/helping a scum TGN in the open to get town cred, because I thought Ruguo pressured TGN way more than I would expect if they were scumbuds, even to the point of starting a bandwagon. But the fact that Ruguo brings up their helping of new players here as part of their defense makes me think it may have been a much more coordinated effort to get town cred. That would also explain the sudden (in my opinion) drop of their TGN vote after TGN only kinda fulfilled their request for more logical arguments to instead vote Vro, possibly to head off any bandwagon that Mel could create by voting for Ruguo. Obviously the bandwagon gained traction very quickly and ended up on Ruguo anyway, but that doesn't seem to be what the scum expected/wanted at all.

I don't know if I'll be able to check back in before EoD tonight, so for the above reasons, I'm going to:
Vote: TGN

If I do make it back, I'll try to poke through everything with Sapph to see if I think that has more weight, but at the moment TGN seems like a better bet to me.

I would say mindmeld + slight town read on EME + your starting attitude to the game are all factors in my read on you.

Also, questioning your town reads is definitely a good look.

I know you said EME posted and you town read them a bit for it, but strangely enough, I don't remember seeing them post anything lol.

Even when I'm scum, I'm town read, and I think "this wasn't exactly part of the plan, but nice", which I also point out in-thread as scum too. I did it in the Season 7 champs game, first day too. Just saying to be careful to some tactics scum might pull so you won't potentially be fooled later down the line.

is BSR even on anymore?
well I said he had until 12:30
Vote: BSR

I'm not scum. I've done my best to both jump on things I find odd as well as steer newer players in the right direction. I'm admitedly playing a bit differently this game- I want the newer players such as yourself to get the experience of hunting- so I'm doing a lot more prodding around than usual to stir up the dust.

I'd also ask you to consider: Would scum spend so much time trying to get TGN to prove his innocence? If I were scum, I could easily have left it with his wagon clearly in the lead and gone home happy- but I didn't, because I'm not scum, and he deserves better than that.

So I've been reading through all of Ruguo's posts again to try and get a better idea of things and this really jumped out at me in light of recent discussion, so I wanted to note my thoughts before they faded into brain mush. I was kinda hesitant in regards to Ruguo training/helping a scum TGN in the open to get town cred, because I thought Ruguo pressured TGN way more than I would expect if they were scumbuds, even to the point of starting a bandwagon. But the fact that Ruguo brings up their helping of new players here as part of their defense makes me think it may have been a much more coordinated effort to get town cred. That would also explain the sudden (in my opinion) drop of their TGN vote after TGN only kinda fulfilled their request for more logical arguments to instead vote Vro, possibly to head off any bandwagon that Mel could create by voting for Ruguo. Obviously the bandwagon gained traction very quickly and ended up on Ruguo anyway, but that doesn't seem to be what the scum expected/wanted at all.

I don't know if I'll be able to check back in before EoD tonight, so for the above reasons, I'm going to:
Vote: TGN

If I do make it back, I'll try to poke through everything with Sapph to see if I think that has more weight, but at the moment TGN seems like a better bet to me.

... Ohh? I'm guessing that's the Ruguo's linking to TGN statement that Cozmikrae was talking about? Yeah, I will admit that knowing that Ruguo is scum, it does feel like he's hiding something about TGN, but that could be from just being scum with an agenda. Ruguo backing off TGN could be to take off heat for a potential TGN mislynch, or to keep easy pickings for mislynches later. Don't take my word for it though considering my comprehension of the game still, but yeah.

is BSR even on anymore?
well I said he had until 12:30
Vote: BSR

Thoughts on Sapphiron?

I don't know what's going on with BSR, I voted him to pressure for a response, I even pinged him a bit later, he's been online recently, and still has not responded. Not happy about that.

I know Sapph is capable of more content, why he's been so silent this game is something I'm still trying to figure out.

TGN has been reading townie to me, I don't think his more high-effort posts feel like they've been coached privately, and I think it's more likely that Silv tried to sound more genuine in coaching a newer town player in what they should post to coast on the town cred, the main wagon had not yet shifted to them at that point.

I have not had a good history of reading TGN though, which gives me pause, but not enough for me to vote him quite yet.

In regards to Wisch's reasoning, as I said before I think Silv was trying to go for regular Silv helping a newer player to further disconnect from scum Silv.

and at this point if me or ExLight gets lynched then we will know who is town and who is scum, but I still don't like how much ExLight has been focusing on me and only voted for me after Cozimkrae, again, like the last time.
I can't be the only one seeing this right?

and at this point if me or ExLight gets lynched then we will know who is town and who is scum, but I still don't like how much ExLight has been focusing on me and only voted for me after Cozimkrae, again, like the last time.
I can't be the only one seeing this right?

I voted you because tying your wagon with BSR's was better than having yours and Sapphiron's with just 2 votes. I'm scumreading you both and townreading BSR, so of course I'd want to push one of these to stand a better chance.

is BSR even on anymore?
well I said he had until 12:30
Vote: BSR

Thoughts on Sapphiron?

Sapphiron...
compared to last game he has been quiet, too quiet.

I don't know what's going on with BSR, I voted him to pressure for a response, I even pinged him a bit later, he's been online recently, and still has not responded. Not happy about that.

I know Sapph is capable of more content, why he's been so silent this game is something I'm still trying to figure out.

TGN has been reading townie to me, I don't think his more high-effort posts feel like they've been coached privately, and I think it's more likely that Silv tried to sound more genuine in coaching a newer town player in what they should post to coast on the town cred, the main wagon had not yet shifted to them at that point.

I have not had a good history of reading TGN though, which gives me pause, but not enough for me to vote him quite yet.

In regards to Wisch's reasoning, as I said before I think Silv was trying to go for regular Silv helping a newer player to further disconnect from scum Silv.

If you read The Wintreath Monthly you will see what I am capable of
I do a lengthy post when I get accused
fight or flight if you will

CAN I POST WITHOUT ANOTHER POST

and at this point if me or ExLight gets lynched then we will know who is town and who is scum, but I still don't like how much ExLight has been focusing on me and only voted for me after Cozimkrae, again, like the last time.
I can't be the only one seeing this right?

I voted you because tying your wagon with BSR's was better than having yours and Sapphiron's with just 2 votes. I'm scumreading you both and townreading BSR, so of course I'd want to push one of these to stand a better chance.

Townreading BSR?
idk if my memory is right but didn't people sus him due to inactivity in the beginning?

I don't know what's going on with BSR, I voted him to pressure for a response, I even pinged him a bit later, he's been online recently, and still has not responded. Not happy about that.

Do you think he'd just be silently watching him getting lynched and be the second strike in a row or do you think he'd at least put some effort defending himself if he was scum?
To me the answer is pretty clear, right now the BSR wagon is on an inactive that can't defend himself. While this might go both ways, this doesn't change the fact his silence is likely NAI, if not slightly townie.

Personally, I already pointed out to finding Silver throwing shade at him D1 very natural and likely for scum!Silver, and I'm not sure why he's being scumread since Silver flipped scum.

for the record, I did TG BSR on NS and I said
You need to get onto werewolf