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[Do you want to start lynching by majority this round?]

Do you want to start lynching by majority this round?

Yes

7 (87.5%)

No

1 (12.5%)

Total Members Voted: 8

Voting closed: February 24, 2021, 10:57:44 AM

Various Quotes

So outside of the lurkers the let's see

ENE: so he's pretty much just yucking it up. Which could just mean that he's looking to have some fun. Or he could be deflecting any attention away as a classical class clown.

I'm failing to see the parts where I am "yucking it up".

ENE- hello, welcome back. Please contribute more today maybe, or I'm just going to assume you're a lurky scum.

I am a generally lurky player.

I'm still wary of any of the lurkers.

ENE is major sus because people from New England are a bunch of assholes

Then you'll be pleased to hear that I am not from New England.

Well, now is as good a time as any to update.

You seem to have forgotten me in the top row of your sheet.

In order to avoid an inactivity lynch, I'll
Vote: Eastern New England

Various Quotes

So outside of the lurkers the let's see

ENE: so he's pretty much just yucking it up. Which could just mean that he's looking to have some fun. Or he could be deflecting any attention away as a classical class clown.

I'm failing to see the parts where I am "yucking it up".

ENE- hello, welcome back. Please contribute more today maybe, or I'm just going to assume you're a lurky scum.

I am a generally lurky player.

I'm still wary of any of the lurkers.

ENE is major sus because people from New England are a bunch of assholes

Then you'll be pleased to hear that I am not from New England.

Well, now is as good a time as any to update.

You seem to have forgotten me in the top row of your sheet.

In order to avoid an inactivity lynch, I'll
Vote: Eastern New England

You are listed in the bottom row of Lau's sheet.
Do you have any reads or contributions to make on the state of the game, possible links, or any reads on scum-like behavior? Anything you think we should know that no one has pointed out?
Your post shows that you've read through the thread, do you have anything to state other than essentially saying you're present?

For some additional vote analysis, the number of times each player voted/unvoted:

Spoiler

Cozmik - 2
Doc - 1
Gerrick - 1
Hapi - 2
Kane - 2
Mele - 1
Minish - 3
Moot - 1
Nyght - 2
Red - 4
Ruguo - 2
Sapph - 1
TGN - 4
Vro - 5
Wisch - 1

And those who started vanity wagons:

Spoiler

Hapi
Ruguo
Sapph
TGN

I excluded Nyght, Gerrick, and Kane from the Vanity Wagon list because they provided gameplay-based rationalization for their votes.

With that said, Minish and Vro have the most suspicious voting behavior overall due to the timing of their vote changes. Red appears less suspicious to me because after the reactionary flip-flopping early in the round, he waited for more info to come to light before placing his final vote and sticking with it. Ruguo, on the other hand, started a vanity wagon and acted as the pivotal pile point for the Michi Wagon, which makes me very suspicious.

Based on the vote analysis and the fact I don't currently want to lynch Vro or Minish because they generate a lot of discussion, I'm leaning more towards Ruguo being scum. Sapph still gives me scum vibes, but there's nothing concrete in the voting logs, so I'm switching my vote to Ruguo.

Vote: Ruguo

if I skip again will I get lynched?

Votecount at present is
TGN - 5 (Silv/Ruguo, Vroendal, Sapphiron, Minish, Cozmik)
Vroendal - 3 (Me, Gerrick, BSR
Sapphiron - 1 (Mel)
ENE - 1 (Self-vote)

Alexander, Michi, TGN, and Ogun are all up for an inactivity lynch if they don't vote today.
Likewise for Vro and ENE if they unvote.
Amitav, Kane, Nyght, Red, Wintermoot, and Wischland still haven't voted but aren't at IL risk.

if I skip again will I get lynched?

Yes. As stated above, you're on the chopping block for inactivity lynch.

I just don't want to get lynched
Vote: Doc
I might get lynched anyway but if not then this vote will save me
nothing personal, sorry doc...
we are cool right?

Vote: Vroendal

I can't vote for TGN because at least for now I feel his behaviour is more immature than suspicious, and this just feels like similar reason to what people went with when they voted for Hapi: that he's too chaotic and not helpful to town. That doesn't leave too many options left in my mind. I would expect Sapph to do more in a game than just vote and leave for the day, but that isn't enough to vote for him. Vro has actually done something suspicious...still the most out of place thing in the game to me.

Now to (finally) articulate the link I spotted between Red and Minish.

In addition to the post Vro made linking Red and Minish together, I found it very interesting how Red had a wagon forming on him early D1 that essentially dissolved. And yet, even as Minish seemed determined to cast suspicion on Red and get a viable third wagon going, she was simultaneously distancing herself from actually voting for Red.

Minish hops onto the Red Wagon after Moot.
Minish teases Vro with a link to Moot.
Minish backs off sussing Red.
Minish denies the Moot connection, noting that she doesn't play nice with her scumbuds.
Minish continues advocating for a third wagon while distancing herself from sussing Red specifically.
Minish switches to Michi as the 5th vote on the Michi Wagon.

What this indicates to me is that either Minish is a Wolf and Red is Town, or both Minish and Red are Wolves and Minish was looking to cement her Town Cred by bussing Red. Minish at that point in the game was pretty unanimously being read as Town, and what better way to cement that than to be seen voting for a Wolf Wagon other players had abandoned?

Additionally, if Michi is actually Town as I suspect, Minish's switching to be the 5th vote on the Michi Wagon would take out one Town early without putting too much sus on her because the general consensus of Town was that "Michi is Sus" and Minish had convinced most of the talkative Town to read her as Town.

Combined with how Doc, Vro, and I all suspect at least one powerwolf in this game and how Ruguo admitted to being unable to discern between Town Minish and Scum Minish, I'm beginning to strongly suspect that Minish is our resident powerwolf. Especially considering the clash Minish had with Vro earlier today over Vro objecting to Town giving only their Top Town Read.

There are other smaller things, like Minish being certain that the Wolves did NOT pull a NKN1 and the Doc confusion that also nudge me towards "Minish is SCUM", but as it stands, I'm seeing links between Minish and Red, Ruguo, and Vro. There are also weaker links between Minish and Moot and Doc.

How many of those links are manufactured/incidental, and whether or not Minish is a Wolf, remains to be seen since this is only D2.

EOD and tonight will be interesting.

Votecount at present is
TGN - 5 (Silv/Ruguo, Vroendal, Sapphiron, Minish, Cozmik)
Vroendal - 3 (Me, Gerrick, BSR
Sapphiron - 1 (Mel)
ENE - 1 (Self-vote)

Alexander, Michi, TGN, and Ogun are all up for an inactivity lynch if they don't vote today.
Likewise for Vro and ENE if they unvote.
Amitav, Kane, Nyght, Red, Wintermoot, and Wischland still haven't voted but aren't at IL risk.

if I skip again will I get lynched?

Yes. As stated above, you're on the chopping block for inactivity lynch.

I switched my vote to Ruguo.

Unvote.

Based on TGN’s reads list. He feels less sus and more chaotic town.  So... I guess,

Vote Vroendal

based on my prior reads list.

So I'm gonna go ahead and say that I just can't shake my suspicions on Vro. There's been a lot of back and forth in my head as I've read the different posts but I just can't shake my initial suspicions.

Vote Vroendal

I can't believe I almost forgot.

I switched my vote to Ruguo.

Oops, missed that, thanks for the catch.

Updatedest count:
Votecount at present is
Vroendal - 5 (Me, Gerrick, BSR, Cozmikrae, Nyght)
TGN - 4 (Silv/Ruguo, Vroendal, Sapphiron, Minish)
Ruguo - 1 (Mel)
ENE - 1 (Self-vote)

Alexander, TGN, and Ogun are all up for an inactivity lynch if they don't vote today (pending clarification below?).
Likewise for ENE, Michi, and Vro if they unvote.
Amitav, Kane, Red, Wintermoot, and Wischland still haven't voted but aren't at IL risk.

Additionally seeking clarification with Lau, ideally before night phase ends in case he doesn't look at #werewolf before he closes the thread:

3. You are required to vote every day phase, or risk expulsion after the second day in which you are inactive. This rule does not apply to the first day phase.

Two questions:
First, is this 'second day', or 'second consecutive day'?
Second, if the rule does not apply to the first day phase, why is anyone up for inactivity lynch at all today?

Apologies for not posting this phase.  It's been a mix of avoiding this thread out of frustration last phase to avoiding talking so that I didn't accidentally say the wrong thing and continue that D1 attention on me (since that seems to also be my luck in recent games...I post, and people continue zeroing in on me that next day), and keeping busy preparing the next game (which thankfully is slightly less for me since it's becoming a three-host thing now), Spyfall (which will be popping up next week), and some other projects.

That being said, I'm not entirely comfortable with either big choice right now.  Vro switched his vote on my last minute, yeah, absolutely, and he's been giving pretty decent reasoning about it since he's been pushing me to try to explain more.  His flip-floppiness on it has been odd since he seemed like he didn't get behind my responses, yet he kept giving me the benefit of the doubt all the way up to the end at that last minute change.  His play style reminds me a bit more of last game though rather than his scum game in Portal Attempt II, so for now I'm willing to return the favor and give him some benefit of doubt as well.

TGN, my reasoning is admittedly much more meta and much less based on this game.  I'm absolutely not comfortable with the TGN-being-scum reason for purely one reason: TGN was a wolf in the last game.  Considering how he's still new and getting acclimated to how we do things here, I highly doubt he'd be a wolf a second time.  Even if it was randomized completely, I don't believe Laurentus would make the new guy a wolf in another game after he was just the wolf in the previous game.  To me it just makes much more sense that even if he had somehow gotten the usual luck that a previous player used to have in 9/10 times rolling as wolf, he would have been given a pass to relax and enjoy a different role for his second game since he's still learning the ropes.

So this game, I'm willing to give TGN more of a derp clear mainly because again, he was a wolf in the game right before this, and I don't think he'd be thrown into the same role again for the second game in a row when he's still brand new.

On that note, I am going to vote for the one player that hasn't spoken yet and has been sporadic in their activity mainly because I want to hear from them, and I've never been one entirely to rule out the inactive-players-can-be-quiet-werewolves idea.

Vote: @Alexander Valentine

If you're not a bad guy, please speak up.  You've been sporadically active and have at least been on since sign ups started, but haven't posted at all.  So I'd love to hear something from you on this, though I realize over 30 pages of catch up can be pretty daunting.

@Doc
TGN did vote for you a couple posts ago.