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Do you want to start lynching by majority this round?

Yes

7 (87.5%)

No

1 (12.5%)

Total Members Voted: 8

Voting closed: February 24, 2021, 10:57:44 AM

In my heart of hearts, I don't want you to be scum because that's jut bad luck two games in a row. I don't want to kill you because you have potential under all the unintelligible screaming and random votes. But I can't help you if you won't help yourself.

oh no
if he is scum two games in a row, moot may have been right and i'll have to adopt him after all
the Scum Curse of the House [redacted]

Unvote
the more I think about it, you are voting because in the early game
WHERE WE HAVE NO PROOF OF ANY SCUM I make joke votes
for D2 I made one with Moot but other than that I did nothing
if you have any other proof against me I will debunk
try your best

Okay. I can work with this. Yes, a lot of us made jokes in the early game. The thing was, we didn't really continue them later. And we take the time to explain why we are voting for people, and iirc, you didn't really do that when you voted Moot, it was more of an omgus for saying doc should adopt me vote, which isn't very helpful.

The thing isn't that we have proof against you, it's a number of people have interacted with you and tried to get anything out of you, protected you, and all we've gotten as feedback is more jokes and two line posts that don't help us rule you out.

If I had to put a finger on why this wagon is a thing, it's because you just don't offer up anything that helps you shed suspicion, so it keeps piling onto you until you're a mound of reactionary information.

So I ask you one more time: Opinions on the following players:
Vro, Me, BSR, Sapph
And optionally: Red, Michi

And to hold up my part of this: if you don't want to focus on reading a lot of pages to catch up, think about a player who rubs you the wrong way and just look at their recent posts. Post a few thoughts about them, and go about your day. When you come back to the thread, reply to things concerning you in at least one full sentence, then focus on the last five posts- you can get a lot of information in a few posts just by comparing how they were acting last time you remember seeing them to the current point, and often players will summarize things that you can simply decide to agree or disagree with. Even having a simple "I agree with XYZ because they are thinking along the same lines as me" helps us know where you stand.

You can do this, TGN.

As most of you can see, this game compared to my last, I am MUCH more active
last game I didn't talk as much because I had something to fear
IF I WAS A WOLF, WHY WOULD I BE THIS CONFIDENT!?
irl I am shy and don't speak out as much, and my defence is not the best
BUT I WILL NOT GO OUT UNDER FALSE CLAIMS
"I am innocent of everything I am accused of"
If I am to go out, I will go out innocent

TGN, if you don't want to go out under false claims, and were that confident, and were confident in your own innocence, why then did you vote yourself?

TGN, if you don't want to go out under false claims, and were that confident, and were confident in your own innocence, why then did you vote yourself?

if you know you know the reference
do you have 90 minutes
in short: I have no clue
I guess I didn't want to get distracted in class
but now the class has ended
so I posted "that"

Another way to not die is to run around screaming "I'M INNOCENT". This may sound like stupid advice, but a lot of players, especially new wolves, will freeze up upon being the leading wagon. I'm guilty of this as well. You'd be surprised how much good being active and constantly saying you're not the one they're looking for can do.

@TGN - I get I am the one that posted this advice, but, uh, you gotta combine it with some of the other advice as well.

You did good by asking me why I thought you were sus and offering to debunk our thoughts, but now you need to keep pushing forward. Ask questions! All the questions! But don't forget to answer questions too. I still require the original requirements of my vote to be fulfilled before unvoting.

This is incredible and I want TGN to live.

In all seriousness, BSR is a known experienced player whose rationale for why he's Town is "because I'm playing like how I play Town" and for voting Vro is "because I already went over the reasons yesterday". If those of you who wanted to lynch TGN because he was unhelpful are serious about going after someone who is unhelpful to town, BSR is a stronger candidate.

Also, status update, I'm on 13/17 pages for D1.

@Sapphiron (im sorry butchered the spelling)
why did you vote me so soon after @Cozmikeray (sorry again)

Spoiler

Unvote
the more I think about it, you are voting because in the early game
WHERE WE HAVE NO PROOF OF ANY SCUM I make joke votes
for D2 I made one with Moot but other than that I did nothing
if you have any other proof against me I will debunk
try your best

Okay. I can work with this. Yes, a lot of us made jokes in the early game. The thing was, we didn't really continue them later. And we take the time to explain why we are voting for people, and iirc, you didn't really do that when you voted Moot, it was more of an omgus for saying doc should adopt me vote, which isn't very helpful.

The thing isn't that we have proof against you, it's a number of people have interacted with you and tried to get anything out of you, protected you, and all we've gotten as feedback is more jokes and two line posts that don't help us rule you out.

If I had to put a finger on why this wagon is a thing, it's because you just don't offer up anything that helps you shed suspicion, so it keeps piling onto you until you're a mound of reactionary information.

So I ask you one more time: Opinions on the following players:
Vro, Me, BSR, Sapph
And optionally: Red, Michi

And to hold up my part of this: if you don't want to focus on reading a lot of pages to catch up, think about a player who rubs you the wrong way and just look at their recent posts. Post a few thoughts about them, and go about your day. When you come back to the thread, reply to things concerning you in at least one full sentence, then focus on the last five posts- you can get a lot of information in a few posts just by comparing how they were acting last time you remember seeing them to the current point, and often players will summarize things that you can simply decide to agree or disagree with. Even having a simple "I agree with XYZ because they are thinking along the same lines as me" helps us know where you stand.

You can do this, TGN.

Hey @TGN I agree with this. I will also unvote for you if you can offer us something about your feels on any other players. You’ll be going out with your piece left unsaid. That’s not fair. But you gotta help us out.

Spoiler

Unvote
the more I think about it, you are voting because in the early game
WHERE WE HAVE NO PROOF OF ANY SCUM I make joke votes
for D2 I made one with Moot but other than that I did nothing
if you have any other proof against me I will debunk
try your best

Okay. I can work with this. Yes, a lot of us made jokes in the early game. The thing was, we didn't really continue them later. And we take the time to explain why we are voting for people, and iirc, you didn't really do that when you voted Moot, it was more of an omgus for saying doc should adopt me vote, which isn't very helpful.

The thing isn't that we have proof against you, it's a number of people have interacted with you and tried to get anything out of you, protected you, and all we've gotten as feedback is more jokes and two line posts that don't help us rule you out.

If I had to put a finger on why this wagon is a thing, it's because you just don't offer up anything that helps you shed suspicion, so it keeps piling onto you until you're a mound of reactionary information.

So I ask you one more time: Opinions on the following players:
Vro, Me, BSR, Sapph
And optionally: Red, Michi

And to hold up my part of this: if you don't want to focus on reading a lot of pages to catch up, think about a player who rubs you the wrong way and just look at their recent posts. Post a few thoughts about them, and go about your day. When you come back to the thread, reply to things concerning you in at least one full sentence, then focus on the last five posts- you can get a lot of information in a few posts just by comparing how they were acting last time you remember seeing them to the current point, and often players will summarize things that you can simply decide to agree or disagree with. Even having a simple "I agree with XYZ because they are thinking along the same lines as me" helps us know where you stand.

You can do this, TGN.

Hey @TGN I agree with this. I will also unvote for you if you can offer us something about your feels on any other players. You’ll be going out with your piece left unsaid. That’s not fair. But you gotta help us out.

it's my first list so... here
also, I will put aside all votes against me

Spoiler

Town core/leans
Ruguo: seems very helpful
Vro: Vro is the host right?
Doc: gives reasons for actions
Wintermoot: not very active but when on, he gives very good post
Cozmikrae: New player with very good logic
Sapphiron: like Ruguo

Null
Gerrik
Anubhav Ghosh
Wischland
ENE
Alexander Valentine
Ogun: for everyone up above in null they haven't posted, don't post often, or it doesn't feel like they post
BSR: lots of people throwing out sus against him, hasn't rung any bells
everyone else

Scum lead
only D2, can't think of anyone who rings a bell

Spoiler

Unvote
the more I think about it, you are voting because in the early game
WHERE WE HAVE NO PROOF OF ANY SCUM I make joke votes
for D2 I made one with Moot but other than that I did nothing
if you have any other proof against me I will debunk
try your best

Okay. I can work with this. Yes, a lot of us made jokes in the early game. The thing was, we didn't really continue them later. And we take the time to explain why we are voting for people, and iirc, you didn't really do that when you voted Moot, it was more of an omgus for saying doc should adopt me vote, which isn't very helpful.

The thing isn't that we have proof against you, it's a number of people have interacted with you and tried to get anything out of you, protected you, and all we've gotten as feedback is more jokes and two line posts that don't help us rule you out.

If I had to put a finger on why this wagon is a thing, it's because you just don't offer up anything that helps you shed suspicion, so it keeps piling onto you until you're a mound of reactionary information.

So I ask you one more time: Opinions on the following players:
Vro, Me, BSR, Sapph
And optionally: Red, Michi

And to hold up my part of this: if you don't want to focus on reading a lot of pages to catch up, think about a player who rubs you the wrong way and just look at their recent posts. Post a few thoughts about them, and go about your day. When you come back to the thread, reply to things concerning you in at least one full sentence, then focus on the last five posts- you can get a lot of information in a few posts just by comparing how they were acting last time you remember seeing them to the current point, and often players will summarize things that you can simply decide to agree or disagree with. Even having a simple "I agree with XYZ because they are thinking along the same lines as me" helps us know where you stand.

You can do this, TGN.

Hey @TGN I agree with this. I will also unvote for you if you can offer us something about your feels on any other players. You’ll be going out with your piece left unsaid. That’s not fair. But you gotta help us out.

it's my first list so... here
also, I will put aside all votes against me

Spoiler

Town core/leans
Ruguo: seems very helpful
Vro: Vro is the host right?
Doc: gives reasons for actions
Wintermoot: not very active but when on, he gives very good post
Cozmikrae: New player with very good logic
Sapphiron: like Ruguo

Null
Gerrik
Anubhav Ghosh
Wischland
ENE
Alexander Valentine
Ogun: for everyone up above in null they haven't posted, don't post often, or it doesn't feel like they post
BSR: lots of people throwing out sus against him, hasn't rung any bells
everyone else

Scum lead
only D2, can't think of anyone who rings a bell

What about me?

it's my first list so... here
also, I will put aside all votes against me

Spoiler

Town core/leans
Ruguo: seems very helpful
Vro: Vro is the host right?
Doc: gives reasons for actions
Wintermoot: not very active but when on, he gives very good post
Cozmikrae: New player with very good logic
Sapphiron: like Ruguo

Null
Gerrik
Anubhav Ghosh
Wischland
ENE
Alexander Valentine
Ogun: for everyone up above in null they haven't posted, don't post often, or it doesn't feel like they post
BSR: lots of people throwing out sus against him, hasn't rung any bells
everyone else

Scum lead
only D2, can't think of anyone who rings a bell

I am not the host, Laurentus is the host.
If you think Sapphrion is helpful and you're town leaning him, then why are you voting him?

as I said
basically everyone else including you @Melehan

and I only voted Sapphiron because he voted me

I have finally made it through D1.

First up, a detailed voting list!

Spoiler

Hapi votes Red Mones (Red 1)
Red votes Hapi (Red 1, Hapi 1)
Mele votes Hapi (Red 1, Hapi 2)
Cozmik votes Red (Red 2, Hapi 2)
Nyght votes Moot (Red 2, Hapi 2, Moot 1)
Ruguo votes Doc (Red 2, Hapi 2, Moot 1, Doc 1)
Sapph votes Vro (Red 2, Hapi 2, Moot 1, Doc 1, Vro 1)
Gerrick votes Michi (Red 2, Hapi 2, Moot 1, Doc 1, Vro 1, Michi 1)
TGN votes Sapph (Red 2, Hapi 2, Moot 1, Doc 1, Vro 1, Michi 1, Sapph 1)
Red votes Mele (Red 2, Hapi 1, Moot 1, Doc 1, Vro 1, Michi 1, Sapph 1, Mele 1)
Red unvotes (Red 2, Hapi 1, Moot 1, Doc 1, Vro 1, Michi 1, Sapph 1)
Vro votes Michi (Red 2, Hapi 1, Moot 1, Doc 1, Vro 1, Michi 2, Sapph 1)
Ruguo votes Michi (Red 2, Hapi 1, Moot 1, Michi 3, Vro 1, Michi 3, Sapph 1)
TGN "Unvote Michi" (Red 2, Hapi 1, Moot 1, Michi 3, Vro 1, Michi 4)
Nyght votes Hapi (Red 2, Hapi 2, Moot 1, Michi 3, Vro 1, Michi 4)
Kane votes No Lynch (Red 2, Hapi 2, Moot 1, Michi 3, Vro 1, Michi 4, NO 1)
Hapi votes Cozmik (Red 1, Hapi 2, Moot 1, Michi 3, Vro 1, Michi 4, NO 1, Cozmik 1)
Doc votes Hapi (Red 1, Hapi 3, Moot 1, Michi 3, Vro 1, Michi 4, NO 1, Cozmik 1)
TGN unvotes (Red 1, Hapi 3, Moot 1, Michi 3, Vro 1, Michi 3, NO 1, Cozmik 1)
Wisch votes Michi (Red 1, Hapi 3, Moot 1, Michi 3, Vro 1, Michi 4, NO 1, Cozmik 1)
Kane votes BSR (Red 1, Hapi 3, Moot 1, Michi 3, Vro 1, Michi 4, Cozmik 1, BSR 1)
Minish votes Michi (Red 1, Hapi 3, Moot 1, Michi 3, Vro 1, Michi 5, Cozmik 1, BSR 1)
TGN skips vote (Red 1, Hapi 3, Moot 1, Michi 3, Vro 1, Michi 5, Cozmik 1, BSR 1, SKIP 1)
Moot votes Red (Red 2, Hapi 3, Moot 1, Michi 3, Vro 1, Michi 5, Cozmik 1, BSR 1, SKIP 1)
Minish votes Red (Red 3, Hapi 3, Moot 1, Michi 3, Vro 1, Michi 4, Cozmik 1, BSR 1, SKIP 1)
Minish votes for Michi (Red 2, Hapi 3, Moot 1, Michi 3, Vro 1, Michi 5, Cozmik 1, BSR 1, SKIP 1)
Cozmik votes Hapi (Red 1, Hapi 4, Moot 1, Michi 3, Vro 1, Michi 5, Cozmik 1, BSR 1, SKIP 1)
Vro unvotes (Red 1, Hapi 4, Moot 1, Michi 3, Vro 1, Michi 4, Cozmik 1, BSR 1, SKIP 1)
Vro votes Michi (Red 1, Hapi 4, Moot 1, Michi 3, Vro 1, Michi 5, Cozmik 1, BSR 1, SKIP 1)
Red votes Ruguo (Red 1, Hapi 4, Moot 1, Michi 3, Vro 1, Michi 5, Cozmik 1, BSR 1, SKIP 1, Ruguo 1)
Vro unvotes (Red 1, Hapi 4, Moot 1, Michi 3, Vro 1, Michi 4, Cozmik 1, BSR 1, SKIP 1, Ruguo 1)

Just off the bat, Minish's voting history appears the most suspicious, followed by Vro's. (I'm ruling out TGN for the moment because he is chaos incarnate as far as we know.)

The train on Michi notably took on steam with Ruguo's vote (in part thanks to TGN). This makes Minish's voting pattern even more interesting.

And a link to all the D1 read lists!

Spoiler

Minish town reads Nyght
Minish looks at Michi meta and town reads Vro
Wisch questions TGN and reads Vro and Michi
Ruguo reads Mele as Town
Mele's first Reads List
Kane votes BSR, reads
Minish votes Michi, reads
Moot votes Red, reads
Minish replies to Vro, reads
Doc reads the voting logs and brings up powerwolfing
Ruguo replies to Vro with reads
Kane explains his meta, reads
Gerrick posts his Reads List

What we can conclude from these reads: everyone reads Nyght as Town, which makes her a prime target for the wolves.

Cozmik is the runner up in Towniness.