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[Do you want to start lynching by majority this round?]

Do you want to start lynching by majority this round?

Yes

7 (87.5%)

No

1 (12.5%)

Total Members Voted: 8

Voting closed: February 24, 2021, 10:57:44 AM

Reminder to all the following players that failure to vote today will result in either being replaced, or removed from the game.

@Vroendal
@Anubhav Ghosh
@Michi
@BraveSirRobin
@TGN
@Ogun of Valeria
@Alexander Valentine
@Eastern New England

last game I skipped but
Vote: Sapphiron
for voting me because I am "using" his old strat even though I never saw it before

Here's the vote count so far. I believe I have actually managed not to fuck it up this time!

Ruguo - 1 (Minish)
Vroendal - 2 (Gerrick, Doc)
Sapphiron - 1 (TGN)
TGN - 2 (Sapphiron, Cozmikrae)

Frankly, based on the votes at present (and one or two key assumptions) I've got a core scumspect list ready to go, but unfortunately one of those assumptions is predicated on none of the rest of y'all voting, which would be very, very boring (esp. since 6 of you are at risk of inactivity lynch). Please amend this and get down to voting.
Unless you're scum and at risk of inactivity lynch. Then please don't vote. I'll take a freebie any day.
Now @mentioning everyone who hasn't yet voted (except Moot, who gets a pass solely because he was in #werewolf at the time I said I was gonna do this and he's thus gotten his 'kindly vote now or be seen as suspicious' alert).

@Ruguo @Red Mones @Vroendal @Anubhav Ghosh @Wischland @Michi @Imaginative Kane @BraveSirRobin @NyghtOwl @Melehan @Ogun of Valeria @Alexander Valentine @Eastern New England

Minish's wagon breakdown post

I'm not entirely certain scum was on either of the wagons yesterday especially if they were town vs town. If Michi happens to flip scum that's a different story, but as it was scum could have mostly sat back d1 and not made any waves. However, I am gonna try to do some sort of wagon analysis here.

There were 8 people within the tied wagons. There were also 8 people who didn't vote at all.

On Hapi's wagon was NyghtOwl, Melehan, Doc, and Cozmikrae.

I feel good about NyghtOwl. Cozmikrae is looking okay to me as well. So let's narrow this one down to Melehan and Doc.

On Michi's wagon was Ruguo, Gerrick, Wischland, and Minish.

I know I'm town. Ruguo I've felt iffy about. Wischland and Gerrick I'm null on.

And then you have the 8 non voters.
Vroendal, Anubhav Ghosh, Michi, BraveSirRobin, TGN, Ogun of Valeria, Alexander Valentine, and Eastern New England.

Alexander hasn't posted at all so gonna remove him from this. Michi surprisingly didn't vote despite having a decent wagon on him. Anubhav Ghosh just subbed in so he gets a pass for now. So let's remove Alexander and Anubhav from the equation with this group.

That leaves Vro, Michi, BSR, TGN, Ogun, and ENE. All of which have posted to some extent. Vro and Michi are interesting due to just the focus around them d1. And the fact that Vro pushed a wagon and backed out last minute to cause a tie. Ogun seemed a bit iffy to me d1. TGN has just been messing around. And BSR and ENE haven't said much that I remember.

So removing either the inactive or the ones I feel decent about you have Melehan, Doc, Ruguo, Gerrick, Wischland, Ogun, Vro, Michi, TGN, BSR, and ENE.


Melehan I don't know that well but I did like her trying to get reactions d1, and I dunno if she's wild enough to draw that much attention to herself as scum with the rp aspect. Doc I haven't felt any real suspicion towards I don't think but I also don't think I read him well last game. Either way I don't think I'd like to pursue him today. Gerrick and Wisch are in similar boats. And BSR and ENE I don't feel like I have enough to go on.

So let's  narrow this further to Ruguo, Ogun, Vro, Michi, and TGN.

Vro I wanted to town read but to be honest some of the things he's doing reminds me of scum me or just have some scum motivation so I'm getting a little iffy. I'll need to relook at Spongebob mafia to see how he played there. Though I do think it was maybe more reserved than here.

Michi would be a decent direction to see if it were a scum vs town wagon because that would throw some more sus on Vro. And look decent for the others voting Michi.

Anyways I need to head to bed soon so I'll do more with this stream of consciousness later.

Of the players with a wagon on them right now, I will likely end up voting Ruguo because they were on a wagon yesterday which is becoming less likely to be revealed as a wolf as Michi continues to not engage, I feel less confidant voting Minish, Gerrick, and Wisch at this point (though I certainly want to hear from Wisch more today), I've been wary of the three people including Ruguo who had mentioned I raised a good point because I was wondering if someone was trying to pocket me, and lastly I believe Ruguo has the capability to post in the style they've been using as a wolf.

Personally, I'm not being overly pinged by Silv's post content, so if possible I would like Minish and Kane to expand on what they specifically find suspicious. I would also like Ruguo to respond more fully to our accusations.

I'm not seeing what I would define as great wagons today, but in a Ruguo or TGN scenario I'm more scared of what Ruguo could be doing behind the scenes. I should mention that Sapph does feel off to me, if Ruguo flips town I have the expectation that he will engage in this game much, much more. I just see it as more possible to lynch Ruguo than Sapph today with the limited information we have.

@Doc

I do hope we get to hear that list before eod!

@Vroendal
I don't have anything concrete on Silver, it's mostly just that his tone d1 didn't align with what I expect of town Silver's tone and that he seems to be throwing suspicion on just about everyone in a way that looks like he's just looking for something to stick.


His latest post is more in the tone I expect from town Silver though. I mostly wanted to try to apply some pressure to see if I could see that town Silver come out.

Of the players with a wagon on them right now, I will likely end up voting Ruguo because they were on a wagon yesterday which is becoming less likely to be revealed as a wolf as Michi continues to not engage.

This single statement, more than any other, reassures me that Vro and TGN are likely to be scumbuds - paired, of course, with the fact that despite saying this, Vro has not yet come out and actually carried out his desire to vote for Ruguo.
If nobody else voted right now, it'd be a coinflip for either Vro or TGN dying. This is obviously to Vro's disadvantage; after all, all he needs to do is vote TGN and he's safe. He could probably even get townie points for doing so, since being third on the pile that lynches a wolf is not a bad look. But the fact that this prospect barely seems to cross his mind (except as further comparison with Ruguo/Silv) suggests that both the wagons we've got now are on scum, and he's trying to avoid that by making it 'three' 'viable' wagons and hoping that the Ruguo one is one of those that takes off.

I do hope we get to hear that list before eod!

Sure, here you go: if either TGN or Vro gets lynched and they flip scum, lynch the other, then lynch Michi.

This is obviously to Vro's disadvantage; after all, all he needs to do is vote TGN and he's safe. He could probably even get townie points for doing so, since being third on the pile that lynches a wolf is not a bad look.

Quick EBWOP: This scenario assumes they are both scum. If TGN is not, it still doesn't automatically mean Vro is by default scum, since 'voting to save your own life' is NAI. But the fact that he doesn't want to do this suggests that they're scumbuds.

Man I really wanna town lean Doc for that post alone. I'm gonna be a bit cautious though because I believe I've heard that he's a really good player. But I like that analysis.


I could get behind a TGN lynch to see what that causes. He's not been helping town at all and has instead been doing joke votes or votes with no substance behind them. He's also in my list of people I narrowed down from wagon stuff d1.

I do think that being scumbuds with someone gives you better insight into how they play as well. So Doc could have a better read of TGN here.

Unvote


Vote: TGN

Of the players with a wagon on them right now, I will likely end up voting Ruguo because they were on a wagon yesterday which is becoming less likely to be revealed as a wolf as Michi continues to not engage.

This single statement, more than any other, reassures me that Vro and TGN are likely to be scumbuds - paired, of course, with the fact that despite saying this, Vro has not yet come out and actually carried out his desire to vote for Ruguo.
If nobody else voted right now, it'd be a coinflip for either Vro or TGN dying. This is obviously to Vro's disadvantage; after all, all he needs to do is vote TGN and he's safe. He could probably even get townie points for doing so, since being third on the pile that lynches a wolf is not a bad look. But the fact that this prospect barely seems to cross his mind (except as further comparison with Ruguo/Silv) suggests that both the wagons we've got now are on scum, and he's trying to avoid that by making it 'three' 'viable' wagons and hoping that the Ruguo one is one of those that takes off.

I do hope we get to hear that list before eod!

Sure, here you go: if either TGN or Vro gets lynched and they flip scum, lynch the other, then lynch Michi.

My reasoning for not yet voting is that I am quite aware there are a number of hours left in this day phase. My statement about lynching Ruguo isn't so much of a desire as a conclusion I expect I will forced to reach. I would like to hear more from Ruguo and Kane before I make my voting decision final. We have a little over 9 hours left, I don't see the rush to vote right at this moment, I have answered your question/threat to vote with a response. Debating over me/TGN scum teams with you will likely result in unnecessary WIFOM arguments, I do not wish to branch to that topic. I will say however that my greater lack of desire to lynch TGN has already been expressed, I think it is more unlikely for him to be lynched at this point, I have been unable to read him due to his chaotic posting style, and your suggestion that by voting TGN I would get townie points seems to depend on my exact knowledge of his role, it stands to reason that I am not voting him to get townie points because I do not, in fact, know his role.

On the subject of TGN: I know he can do better than he has been. Despite being young, he does have a certain innate ability to pick up and internalize information quickly, and his RMB behaviour suggests he can be helpful when he feels like it.

I do not know how well he respond to pressure, so I'm gonna do this:

Vote: TGN

This vote is will remain in place until he posts something of useful content. We've tried to give him direction, and though I really want to keep him alive so he can learn, he's got to demonstrate the willingness to learn in the first place.

If he fails to provide me with anything, literally anything that could be construed as useful, insightful, or contributing to the game, I will be okay with lynching him as the info he could provide based on how others have interacted with him is more useful to me than him as a player.

I've been combing through the thread at a glacial pace (just finished page 12 lol), so I'm going to put in a placeholder vote and reevaluate it later on.

Vote: Sapphiron

At this point, I don't have any specific suspicions of Sapph; I'm just aiming for a third wagon, and Ruguo pings me as less scummy than Sapph.

With that said, I don't want to lynch either Vro or Minish because they have been the main drivers of Town discussion the past two days. I also keep oscillating between alignments with Red, but I did find the first post that linked Red and Minish together while combing through, so we'll see how I feel once I'm done.

@Minish - It's not as contradictory as you're making it out to be. When Red does something I think is scummy (like omitting himself from consideration related to the Hapi lynch), I poke him. And that is how we get the situation where, while quite a few of his actions are scummy, his reactions pass as Town.

If he fails to provide me with anything, literally anything that could be construed as useful, insightful, or contributing to the game, I will be okay with lynching him as the info he could provide based on how others have interacted with him is more useful to me than him as a player.

Ouch. XD

damn

ok...
Unvote
Vote: TGN
I go out wuth honor

damn

ok...
Unvote
Vote: TGN
I go out wuth honor

Is this your confession then?

I wish I could say
but waking up at 6 am to see a page of post isn't how I want to continue school days